Anna Christian Waters (Missing 1/16/1973 from Half Moon Bay, CA)

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  • #241
Dr. Doogie said:
All of the phone numbers that I have found for the adopted woman are disconnected, and she is not using an attorney through which she can be contacted.

I am sending out a letter today to every address that I have for her (including a P.O. box that court papers show as current). The letter should be in her hands by Wednesday or Thursday, so hopefully I should hear from her later on this week.

Good things come to those who wait...

That last court appearance. Maybe try doing a property tax search in that county?
 
  • #242
I have found another avenue to contact the adoptee. I hope to have a response as soon as this afternoon or evening.
 
  • #243
Got my fingers crossed!
 
  • #244
I too am hoping you found her Dr. Doogie and look forward to your update!

In the event it isn't her, I'm wondering if I might suggest an alternate way of searching/clue.

This came out of a conversation I once had with workmates. One of the girls was so surprised to know her real name (on her birth certificate) did not include the nickname all family members called her. The reason? She grew up with four brothers, ALL the family members called her "Squishy". Up until she was around 4, she thought it was her "official" name because all birthday gifts, references, etc., referred to "Squishy".

It got me thinking. Was Anna referred to by a nickname? Was any of her brothers? Please do not tell me the nicknames, if they exist, and have not been published. I don't want to be responsible for private information.

I'm suggesting it as another keyword in a google search for Anna. She may not remember her real name, but perhaps she remembers a nickname? Or a siblings nickname? Perhaps, if she is searching, she'd include it in a post?

Just another idea
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  • #245
PonderingThings said:
Was Anna referred to by a nickname? Was any of her brothers? Please do not tell me the nicknames, if they exist, and have not been published. I don't want to be responsible for private information.
Of course there is the name "Eifee" mentioned here in this forum. Her immediate family did not use this name, but her birth-father who was estranged did. I do recall one nickname that Annasmom mentioned in her diary that she has kept to keep track of the search, but it is generic enough to not be of any help.

These are good ideas, PonderingThings. I will check with Annasmom to see if there were any other nicknames that were used that I am not aware of.
 
  • #246
Those nicknames also might be really helpful to you in trying to make contact with her. If she is leery of you (and no offense, but I would be LOL- a stranger, who got the name from the internet, and gives this type of story). If you asked her about a nickname, that she may have had in the past, it might ring a bell for her.
 
  • #247
Exactly Mysteriew! That's why I don't need to know what it is.

Usually this kind of info is used as a "preliminary identification" kind of thing... before DNA tests, etc..

If it hasn't been made public, if the nicknames exist, that's ok. Just as long as someone does search for those keywords. When you brainwash a child, you never erase everything. Sometimes you can get the "official information" like names, etc., to completely disappear... information tied to emotions though are another matter. Kids remember certain things from a very young age, even though they have never spoken of it, nor has anyone else.
 
  • #248
Other key things to find out, might be- favorite relative- someone she was close to, enjoyed spending time with. A smell she might recall, like if Mom baked a lot or flower scents if they worked in the flowers together, her favorite place to spend time, favorite pet, what she slept with.
Kids remember weird things. They tend to percieve the world in a different way than adults. Smells will tend to stay with a kid. (My dau. used to identify my friends by the pets they had and her best remembered memories are of the pets she had). If there was something she slept with, but didn't have that might stay with her. Games she played with her bros or what they teased her about.
 
  • #249
These are all good ideas. I did include a family photgraph taken within a year of when Anna disappeared to try and jog her memory (including the names of her immediate family) in the letter that I sent today. When she contacts me, I will of course compare notes with Annasmom to see if she thinks that we have a match.

The email I sent was through a school reunion website that requires a premium membership to send emails for free. It turns out the email I sent cannot be opened by her until she pays a small fee - something that I am sure will be a problem (I wouldn't pay a fee to receive an unsolicited email without knowing what was in it). This means I have to do some quick shuffling of my funds to allow me to upgrade my membership so that the email will be free to her, hopefully before she tosses it out of principle. Even if she does, I can resend it once I have upgraded.
 
  • #250
Okay, I finally straightened out the billing issue on the email so she can view it without paying a fee. Sheesh!!!
 
  • #251
I am sitting on my crossed fingers, waiting anxiously.
 
  • #252
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Dr. Doogie, I'm sitting on pins and needles!!! I hope she's an internet junkie like me!!!!
 
  • #253
I'm still searching for Eifee... with the nickname concept I thought, what if she remembers it as a nickname, but only remembers hearing it, not the spelling.... then when that turned up nothing I thought, ok, people shorten things all the time, what possibilities could she remember/come up with.

I haven't found a reference to Anna, but I did find this passage that I found very interesting. Please Note I have no idea how IFE in the article is actually pronounced... it might be pronouced as EYEFEE, or even IFA, but thought I'd post it.

http://www.church-of-the-lukumi.org/ekunfeo02.htm


The Yoruba are an indigenous people of West Africa.
It is only a historically recent development that the word Yoruba was used to name or describe this group of people. Perhaps it would be more accurate to call the peoples now known as “ Yoruba” Omo Ife, children of Ife. Ife or Ile Ife is believed to be the spot where the world was created, the Yoruba “ Garden of Eden.” Ife is the royal city of the Ooni (king) of Ife which is the site of the oldest hereditary kingship in what is now known as Yorubaland. The Ooni of Ife, grants sanction and sword of office to all of the Oba (kings) of Yorubaland and to kings in some neighboring cultures as well. The Ooni is the spiritual head of all Yoruba. Those who hold the title are considered direct heirs of the deities who founded Ile Ife and thereby were founders of the Yoruba Nation and the progenitors of all humankind. Because of this, Ife is considered the holiest of all Yoruba cites and those who hold the title of Ooni are considered the leaders of the Yoruba people. The city of Ife, is recognized by all Yoruba (even those in exile), and at least one Yoruba influenced group as their ancestral home. There are two major ethnic groups who fall into the category of Yoruba-influenced, the Ewe and the Edo. The Ewe are the largest and most diverse. Their territory extends west and southwest from the Nigerian base of Yoruba and across the political boundaries of the Republic of Benin, Togo, and Ghana.


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I have no idea how this would possibly tie in with Anna's name, but I still don't think it was an accident that she was given that name....


Still looking.....


 
  • #254
fwiw, I used to work with a woman named Ife. She was from Africa and pronounced the name "Iffy." That is an interesting passage!
 
  • #255
Annsmom you said something about your son remembering way back then about the car and the women wanting anna to get in the car or was it all the children? what if brody had hired that women to take anna and she was not suscessfull so he begged her again and this time she was able to. but then again i think was it anna who refused or was it your son who said no. what if brody went with her the second time and anna went in the car beacuse she knew that brody was with her?
 
  • #256
Hello to all. As you can see I am a long-long time lurker but not a big poster. I have however always been interested in Anna's case and I've been very excited by the recent activity on this thread.

PonderingThings previously posted about Anna's name being a "mirror image" name and that got me to thinking about the name Eifee. I truly believe that this name change is a very significant piece of the puzzle. I did some research on Eifee and ending up finding the mirror image name "Eefie" on a website for the Kabalarians. Kabalarianism is a religous sect founded in Vancouver in the 1930's. A central tenet of Kabalarian Philosophy is numerology, the belief in the mystical powers of numbers. Many Kabalarians change their names hoping to secure the benefits that names with greater numerological significance will supposedly confer upon them.

Anna's father and George Brody used numerology as the reason for wanting to add the name Eifee to Anna's. Maybe George at one time was a follower of this group or maybe George hails from Canada. This could explain his being untraceable in the United Sates. The Kabalarians are a shady group who's former leader was involved in sexual abuse scandals (I'm sorry to say) and they were known to have a location in California.

http://www.kabalarians.com/cfm/DisplayNameAnalysis.cfm

http://www.bcskeptics.info/calendar/1996.03.22.html
 
  • #257
smile22 said:
Annsmom you said something about your son remembering way back then about the car and the women wanting anna to get in the car or was it all the children? what if brody had hired that women to take anna and she was not suscessfull so he begged her again and this time she was able to. but then again i think was it anna who refused or was it your son who said no. what if brody went with her the second time and anna went in the car beacuse she knew that brody was with her?
Anna would not have known Brody, so it was unlikely that he was in the card. Anna's stepfather also is of the conclusion that both Brody and George Waters were both such damaged goods that neither on of them would have it in them to actively participate in an abduction. Both he and Annasmom do believe that Brody and Waters would and could have influenced someone else to perpetrate the abduction.

Interestingly, a few of the psychics that were consulted in this case indicated the same scenario. I have been reluctant to mention this aspect of the search because of the impression of flakiness that it might give, but desperate people sometimes do desperate things. None of what they have said has been incorporated into the search, but it is curious how certain aspects of their readings are starting to look more-and-more plausible.
 
  • #258
KT Can said:
PonderingThings previously posted about Anna's name being a "mirror image" name and that got me to thinking about the name Eifee. I truly believe that this name change is a very significant piece of the puzzle. I did some research on Eifee and ending up finding the mirror image name "Eefie" on a website for the Kabalarians. Kabalarianism is a religous sect founded in Vancouver in the 1930's. A central tenet of Kabalarian Philosophy is numerology, the belief in the mystical powers of numbers. Many Kabalarians change their names hoping to secure the benefits that names with greater numerological significance will supposedly confer upon them.

Anna's father and George Brody used numerology as the reason for wanting to add the name Eifee to Anna's. Maybe George at one time was a follower of this group or maybe George hails from Canada. This could explain his being untraceable in the United Sates. The Kabalarians are a shady group who's former leader was involved in sexual abuse scandals (I'm sorry to say) and they were known to have a location in California.
This is very interesting. We have never been able to tie any specific religious view into Brody's craziness, but this sounds very plausible. I will look into it. Thank you, KTCan!
 
  • #259
As of 8:45 AM PST today, my email to the adoptee is unopened. Even if she does not get this email, a series of letters have been mailed to all of her known addresses, so she should receive some form of contact today or tomorrow. I will keep you posted.
 
  • #260
KT Can said:
Hello to all. As you can see I am a long-long time lurker but not a big poster. I have however always been interested in Anna's case and I've been very excited by the recent activity on this thread.

PonderingThings previously posted about Anna's name being a "mirror image" name and that got me to thinking about the name Eifee. I truly believe that this name change is a very significant piece of the puzzle. I did some research on Eifee and ending up finding the mirror image name "Eefie" on a website for the Kabalarians. Kabalarianism is a religous sect founded in Vancouver in the 1930's. A central tenet of Kabalarian Philosophy is numerology, the belief in the mystical powers of numbers. Many Kabalarians change their names hoping to secure the benefits that names with greater numerological significance will supposedly confer upon them.

Anna's father and George Brody used numerology as the reason for wanting to add the name Eifee to Anna's. Maybe George at one time was a follower of this group or maybe George hails from Canada. This could explain his being untraceable in the United Sates. The Kabalarians are a shady group who's former leader was involved in sexual abuse scandals (I'm sorry to say) and they were known to have a location in California.

http://www.kabalarians.com/cfm/DisplayNameAnalysis.cfm

http://www.bcskeptics.info/calendar/1996.03.22.html

Very interesting, esp. the second link. Nice find.
 
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