Anna Christian Waters (Missing 1/16/1973 from Half Moon Bay, CA)

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  • #261
Dr. Doogie said:
As of 8:45 AM PST today, my email to the adoptee is unopened. Even if she does not get this email, a series of letters have been mailed to all of her known addresses, so she should receive some form of contact today or tomorrow. I will keep you posted.

Hang in there, not everyone checks their email regularly. At least it didn't get bounced back to you.
 
  • #262
smile22 said:
Annsmom you said something about your son remembering way back then about the car and the women wanting anna to get in the car or was it all the children? what if brody had hired that women to take anna and she was not suscessfull so he begged her again and this time she was able to. but then again i think was it anna who refused or was it your son who said no. what if brody went with her the second time and anna went in the car beacuse she knew that brody was with her?
My son's memory of this event is very vague, and I was astonished to hear the story for the very first time only a couple of weeks ago. He seemed to indicate that the couple tried to get Anna to get into the car, but that when "we said no" (probably the boys), the couple drove off. It is possible that the day Anna disappeared, she went to pick up the mail from the rural mailbox. The mailbox was right in front of the house, but a car stopping in the right lane would have obscured any activity on the other side from view. She had not seen Brody since she was an infant, so I don't think that's a factor. I appreciate your thinking about this.
 
  • #263
KT Can said:
Hello to all. As you can see I am a long-long time lurker but not a big poster. I have however always been interested in Anna's case and I've been very excited by the recent activity on this thread.

PonderingThings previously posted about Anna's name being a "mirror image" name and that got me to thinking about the name Eifee. I truly believe that this name change is a very significant piece of the puzzle. I did some research on Eifee and ending up finding the mirror image name "Eefie" on a website for the Kabalarians. Kabalarianism is a religous sect founded in Vancouver in the 1930's. A central tenet of Kabalarian Philosophy is numerology, the belief in the mystical powers of numbers. Many Kabalarians change their names hoping to secure the benefits that names with greater numerological significance will supposedly confer upon them.

Anna's father and George Brody used numerology as the reason for wanting to add the name Eifee to Anna's. Maybe George at one time was a follower of this group or maybe George hails from Canada. This could explain his being untraceable in the United Sates. The Kabalarians are a shady group who's former leader was involved in sexual abuse scandals (I'm sorry to say) and they were known to have a location in California.

http://www.kabalarians.com/cfm/DisplayNameAnalysis.cfm

http://www.bcskeptics.info/calendar/1996.03.22.html
This really rings a bell. I wonder what the California location was. Great research. Thank you.
 
  • #264
Annasmom said:
This really rings a bell. I wonder what the California location was. Great research. Thank you.

According to the second link, the church owned property
At stake are the church's prime real estate on Vancouver's fashionable Oak Street as well as properties and other assets in Edmonton, Calgary, the Okanagan Valley, Victoria, Seattle, California, and the Netherlands. The church also owns a large commercial printing firm, Kal Printing.

According to the first link, they do not list any property anywhere except Canada and Holland.
http://www.kabalarians.com/cfm/menu-centres.cfm

Another skeptic link
http://skepdic.com/kabbal.html

News articles about Ivon Shearing's trials:
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/3/-Retrial-for-sexually-abusive-cult-leader

http://www.rickross.com/reference/general/general455.html

http://www.lexum.umontreal.ca/csc-scc/fr/com/2001/texte/01-10-09.4.txt

http://www.yorku.ca/dmartin/Evidence/Cases/Shearing.htm

What is the possibility of contacting someone in the British Col. (Ottawa) LE and telling them the story. See if there has been any contact with a woman named Anna or Eifee? The prosecutor's name is Prosecution lawyer Geoffrey Gaul
 
  • #265
The founder of the Kabalarian Philosophy was a young auto mechanic who forsook his strict, Church of England upbringing for Eastern philosophies. He became adept at Yoga, and finally met a visiting swami from India, who gave him the -key "to the -truths for which he had been seeking". His small handful of listeners grew into an impressive group who built a large facility in Vancouver, BC.

Most people became aware that their friends have become Kabalarians when they suddenly change their legal name and a notice appears in the paper. This is done so the letters of their name add up to a favorable mathematical number approved of by the Kabalarians. Mathematics are considered a "sacred principle".

Kabalarians lead a very restricted life. Everything is scrutinized to make sure if adds up to -mathematical perfection. Their diet is usually vegetarian, with no smoking or drinking. Ideally, they are supposed to give 50% of their income to God, leaving 50% for living expenses. They often enter into prolonged periods of abstaining from sex, even within marriage.
http://www.macgregorministries.org/cult_groups/kabalarians.html

Misc. fact....Madonna is a Kabalarian. I believe I have heard her talk about the Kaballah, which is where they they get their teachings. The Kaballah is actually Jewish writings.
 
  • #266
After researching this further and especially with you, Annasmom, saying that it rings a bell I am convinced more than ever that this is an avenue worth exploring. There is a WS's member from Canada who is a government researcher and I am going to invite her to this thread to see if she can lend any insight.

I have read through many, many websites as well as several lengthy documents from former members and this was a real kooky group from the get go. George Brody could have been an early member who left when the original founder passed away in 1965. I think the heyday of this group was really before and shortly after this time period. I am unsure of when George Brody originally came into Anna's father's life but I think it was around the time Anna was born in 1967.

Just to note, Vancouver is the closest major Canadian city in relation to where Anna disappeared from. I wouldn't think that taking a child across the border back in the early 70's wouldn't have garnered as much attention as it would today.

I have been trying to dig up information as to the former California location but have not been successful as of yet. Although they currently have a "representative" in Califonia I don't believe they have an actual worship center type of location there anymore. I will keep digging...
 
  • #267
One AM PST on Thurday morning and the adopted woman has still not opened her email. However, the letters via "snail mail" should arrive today. Hopefully, I will get a response very soon.


Further research into the number of white girls born during an average day in San Francisco during 1967 show a quantity of five. For the adopted girl to not be Anna would mean that out of that five, one girl was adopted and one girl was abducted - pretty thin odds that these two events would occur to such a small sampling. I personally put the odds of this being Anna at 50/50 (and I may be being conservative). Ultimately though, what is, is. We shall all find out soon enough.

One note on the Kabballah: Kabballah is to Judaism as Gnosticism is to Christianity - they will use terminology that is similar to the more popular religions, but hold beliefs that are contrary to the originals. A question about this group: is this the same form of Kabballahism that is popular nowadays with Madonna and other celebs, or is it an even smaller cultish group seperate from more "mainstream" Kabballahism?
 
  • #268
Dr. Doogie said:
One note on the Kabballah: Kabballah is to Judaism as Gnosticism is to Christianity - they will use terminology that is similar to the more popular religions, but hold beliefs that are contrary to the originals. A question about this group: is this the same form of Kabballahism that is popular nowadays with Madonna and other celebs, or is it an even smaller cultish group seperate from more "mainstream" Kabballahism?
No, Kabalarianism and Kaballah are two completely different religions/areas of study. This following was taken from a messageboard on the the Kabalarians website:

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Kaballah is a sacred Hebrew study of the mystical power of the alphabet. Kabalarians understand this principle in a more basic way; the application of language, through the mathematical combination of the name, creates the vehicle of consciousness. Kabalarians think that the origins of this study date much further back in antiquity than most people realize. Although Kabalarianism is not linked to the Jewish faith or Kaballah, Mr. Parker named the organized study of these principles the Kabalarian Philosophy. This is from the root word Kaballah that means, "to receive." In this case, it means to receive the wisdom of the power of the Word.[/font]
 
  • #269
I once had coffee with a man who was a practicing Kabalarianist. Its true that they are heavily into numbers. He spent the entire hour telling me all about myself and what my future held (a dismal reading) all because of what his version of numerology said about my name.

He deflected most of my questions as he was too busy telling me what was wrong, and not fixable, in my life, all because of what my name added up to! I countered on a few of the things he said, as my understanding of numerology differed from what he was saying. He said that the "new age" numerology was totally inaccurate and they used another form.

He finished by saying my curiosity about Kabalarian philosophy was for naught as although he was recruiting for his group, my name eliminated me as a prospective member!

He could have just been a blow hard who likes to try to make people feel bad about their lives (there are lots of people like that out there). He was obviously not making up his assertions, he really believed he was proving his insight by the calculations he made.

Oh... about the dismal reading... I would say he was about 60% accurate - which represents things he said about my past and my future - no better that statistical guesses.

This was in 2002 I think, out west.
 
  • #270
One way that we can get a clue as to whether this was the brand of numerology that Brody praticed is to determine if "Anna Christian Eifee Waters" adds up to or compliments in some manner "George Brody" with this system. The name of Eifee was specifically added in an effort to bring Anna's name in line with Brody's. I will have to recheck Annasmom's diary to see exactly what was said about the change - I will let you know.
 
  • #271
The information below was done for me by a member at another site:

I entered her birth name as Anna Christian Waters
I entered the name currently used as Anna Eifee Christian Waters
I used the Decoz Numerology program (downloaded free link on this site).
If the birth name is wrong let me know. I entered Christian as her birth middle name, and Waters as her birth last name.

Birth name: Anna Christian Waters
Short name: Anna Eifee Christian Waters
Birth date: September 25, 1967

Your Life Path is 39/3 5
Your Expression is 19/1
Your Heart's Desire is 9

I imagine that this would be more "new age" than the calculations my coffee buddy did....

I suspect the the name change was to bring Anna's "Life Path" number more in line with Brody - without knowing the basis for the calculations I think it would be tough to get a match.

Anyone know how to calculate based on the Kabalarian method?
 
  • #272
Also, did George Brody have a middle name?
 
  • #273
We do not know of any middle name for Brody.
 
  • #274
Ok I found this site that talks about the Kaballian numerology. Please note I have no idea how accurate it is. Please note I tried to post the chart but its just not coming out - you'll have to go to the link to see the numbers assigned to each letter.

http://www.spiritlink.com/kinds.html

[size=+1]Kabbalah (Hebrew Alphabet)

The Kabbalah ( which means knowledge that comes through the mind and soul rather than through a flesh and blood teacher) originated in Hebrew mysticism, and interprets only the meaning of the name. The Kabbalah was developed for the Hebrew alphabet, and therefore has only 22 vibrations ranging from 1 to 400. It was adapted for the Greek alphabet, then further adapted for the Roman alphabet.

Chaldean
Chaldean numerology was originally developed in Ancient Babylon (now Iraq), and combines Kabbalistic name interpretation with aspects of astrology.

The 9 is considered holy and therefore is kept apart from other vibrations, except when it results as the sum of vibrations (e.g., from an individual's name). In Chaldean numerology, compound numbers always used. Single digits represent the outer aspects of a person, while double digits reveal inner influences.G E O R G E.................. B R O D Y
3+5+7+2+3+5=25...........2+2+7+4+1=16......... TOTAL NAME=41
A N N A......... E I F E E................ C H R I S T I A N............. W A T E R S
1+5+5+1=12... 5+1+8+5+5=24 3+5+2+1+3+4+1+1+5=25.....6+1+4+5+2+3=21 NAME TOTAL=82

According to this web site only George and Christian match up
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It does go on to say that:

New Kabbalah

A New Kabbalah has also been developed for use with the modern Roman alphabet. It, too, is based on name, and relies on Pythagorean methods to determine time periods. The New Kabbalah is concerned more with events than character.
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  • #275
Pythagorian

Pythagorean numerology analyzes both name and date of birth, and the interaction between the two. The basic vibrations are 1 through 9, although the 11 (K) and 22 (V) are not reduced to a single digit because these are master vibrations

GEORGE................... BRODY
7+5+6+9+7+5=39.....2+9+6+4+7=28.....Name Total=67

Single Digit 3................1
Name Total 4

ANNA.................. EIFEE.................CHRISTIAN.........................WATERS
1+5+5+1=12.....5+9+6+5+5=30....3+8+9+9+1+2+9+1+5=47.....5+9+2+5+9+1=31
Name Total=120

Single Digit 3....................3............................11.........................................4
Name Total 3

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  • #276
PonderingThings said:
Pythagorian

Pythagorean numerology analyzes both name and date of birth, and the interaction between the two. The basic vibrations are 1 through 9, although the 11 (K) and 22 (V) are not reduced to a single digit because these are master vibrations

GEORGE................... BRODY
7+5+6+9+7+5=39.....2+9+6+4+7=28.....Name Total=67

Single Digit 3................1
Name Total 4

ANNA.................. EIFEE.................CHRISTIAN.........................WATERS
1+5+5+1=12.....5+9+6+5+5=30....3+8+9+9+1+2+9+1+5=47.....5+9+2+5+9+1=31
Name Total=120

Single Digit 3....................3............................11.........................................4
Name Total 3

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Okay, I have read thru these posts explaining this number thing. Am I the only person who it makes no sense to? I would like to understand it, if that could help locate Anna. However, its like reading a foregin language to me, sorry.
mjak
 
  • #277
PonderingThings said:
I once had coffee with a man who was a practicing Kabalarianist. Its true that they are heavily into numbers. He spent the entire hour telling me all about myself and what my future held (a dismal reading) all because of what his version of numerology said about my name.

He deflected most of my questions as he was too busy telling me what was wrong, and not fixable, in my life, all because of what my name added up to! I countered on a few of the things he said, as my understanding of numerology differed from what he was saying. He said that the "new age" numerology was totally inaccurate and they used another form.

He finished by saying my curiosity about Kabalarian philosophy was for naught as although he was recruiting for his group, my name eliminated me as a prospective member!

He could have just been a blow hard who likes to try to make people feel bad about their lives (there are lots of people like that out there). He was obviously not making up his assertions, he really believed he was proving his insight by the calculations he made.

Oh... about the dismal reading... I would say he was about 60% accurate - which represents things he said about my past and my future - no better that statistical guesses.

This was in 2002 I think, out west.
Pondering: This sounds EXACTLY like the kind of stuff George Brody would say, but of course he was not alive in 2002. It gave me chills to read it. But I don't believe anyone can predict the future.
 
  • #278
PonderingThings said:
The information below was done for me by a member at another site:

I entered her birth name as Anna Christian Waters
I entered the name currently used as Anna Eifee Christian Waters
I used the Decoz Numerology program (downloaded free link on this site).
If the birth name is wrong let me know. I entered Christian as her birth middle name, and Waters as her birth last name.

Birth name: Anna Christian Waters
Short name: Anna Eifee Christian Waters
Birth date: September 25, 1967

Your Life Path is 39/3 5
Your Expression is 19/1
Your Heart's Desire is 9

I imagine that this would be more "new age" than the calculations my coffee buddy did....

I suspect the the name change was to bring Anna's "Life Path" number more in line with Brody - without knowing the basis for the calculations I think it would be tough to get a match.

Anyone know how to calculate based on the Kabalarian method?

I remember specifically that Brody said he himself was a "27" and that adding the "Eifee" would make Anna a 27 as well. On the abridged birth certificate, it's Anna Christian Eifee Waters.
 
  • #279
mjak said:
Okay, I have read thru these posts explaining this number thing. Am I the only person who it makes no sense to? I would like to understand it, if that could help locate Anna. However, its like reading a foregin language to me, sorry.
mjak
The reason that none of this makes any sense is because it is so wierd and esoteric. I do not believe any of it, but the value of looking into this is to see if the names of Anna and Brody did match using this Kabballah groups numerology techniques. If they did, then it would show that Brody was a member of this cult (or at least influenced by them). This would give us an avenue to find out more about Brody. The actual "predictions" that this technique lead to are undoubtedly worthless.
 
  • #280
Mjak I do understand where you are coming from. I've studied numerology a little bit, but I don't get it in the way some people do. Some people see numbers in EVERYTHING!

On the previous posts I made about the numerology calcs there doesn't seem to be any match to me. That's one of the problems with numerology. Unless you use the prescribed method the group used, you'll never come up with the same numbers!

Anna's Mom the name order doesn't matter for western numerology as it sees the middle name(s) as one long name (combined). It may matter in some other forms of numerology though so thanks for mentioning that.

As for my "wacky coffee buddy" I thought of him right away when you first mentioned George Brody. This guy wasn't old though, but they appear to have had the same way of thinking.

I think there might be an astrology connection too - I'm trying to find out about that particular day, when Anna disappeared, if there was anything special about the stars - as many of the ancient arts such as numerology/astrology/geometry as intertwined in certain sects.

Thing is you don't have to believe in any of it yourself, but if it helps you get into the head of someone that may be involved then its worth it! I figure if we can understand what elements Brody relied on most, we can either create a path/trail, or possibly eliminate him.

Anna's mom/Dr. Doogie: One more mention about nicknames. Anna's stepfather was obviously close with her. He appeared to put a great deal of effort into finding her.

Since Anna lived with her mother and stepfather, did she call him something special like "Papa John" or "Daddy Rob"? If so, perhaps that could also be searched as this may be something she remembers.

Again I do not wish to know what his name was, or what Anna's name for him was, but Anna's mom's former husband was an important figure in Anna's life and it may be something she recalls.
 
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