Anna Christian Waters (Missing 1/16/1973 from Half Moon Bay, CA)

[HeartofTexas]

I found another website (based out of San Jose, CA) where someone might want to register Anna's name. It's the Vanished Children's Alliance. Their website is:

http://www.vca.org/

 

[HeartofTexas]

I just finished reading an interesting study done in San Francisco, CA, entitled "Early Identification of Risk Factors of Parental Abduction". I wasn't looking for info on parental abduction when I found this article (but was instead looking for stats on child abduction), but did find the following conclusion highlighted in the article to be particularly interesting.

Profile 3: When a Parent Is Paranoid Delusional
Although only a small percentage of parents fit this profile, these parents present the greatest risk of physical harm or death to the child, regardless of whether an abduction occurs. Parents who fit the paranoid profile hold markedly irrational or psychotic delusions that the other parent will definitely harm them and/or the child. Believing themselves to be betrayed and exploited by their former partner, these parents urgently take what they consider to be necessary measures to protect themselves and the child.

Psychotic parents do not perceive the child as a separate person. Rather, they perceive the child as part of themselves—that is, as a victim (in which case they take unilateral measures to rescue the child)—or they perceive the child as part of the hated other parent (in which case they may precipitously abandon or even kill the child). Marital separation and/or the instigation of the custody dispute generally triggers an acute phase of danger for these psychotic individuals. The result can be not only parental abduction, but also murder and suicide.

http://www.ncjrs.org/html/ojjdp/2001_3_1/page1.html

I am not saying this is what happened to Anna. I'm just showing the research and results obtained thru this study. Since Anna's father (and his partner Brody) probably fall under the category of paranoid delusionals, it does lend some merit to thinking they could have been involved in her abduction.

 

[HeartofTexas]

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[Dr. Doogie]

In case anyone is interested, here is a listing of the 568 current registered sex offenders living in San Mateo County. It might be helpful for someone familiar with the names of neighbors or friends in the vicinity at the time of Anna's disppearance. Again, I'm in no way saying this is what happened to Anna... merely offering some information to look over if someone is interested.

http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/cgi/prosoma.dll?zoomAction=Box&zoomAction=clickcenter&zoomAction=clickoffender&lastName=&firstName=&Address=&City=&zipcode=&searchDistance=.75&City2=&countyLocation=&zipcode2=&SelectCounty=SAN%20MATEO&ParkName=&searchDistance2=.75&City3=&zipcode3=&countyLocation3=&schoolName=&searchDistance3=.75&City4=&zipcode4=&countyLocation4=&refineID=&pan=&distacross=1871&centerlat=37462955&centerlon=-122437960&starlat=&starlon=&startext=&x1=173&y1=146&x2=193&y2=163&mapwidth=525&mapheight=400&zoom=&searchBy=countylist&id=&docountycitylist=2&OFDTYPE=N41&lang=ENGLISH

I have run the names that I am aware of of anybody that was friends of the family with no hits from California's Megan's List. This was done not out of any suspicion toward any of the friends of the the family, but as a matter of covering all angles. No one among the family friends should be considered a "suspect".

The following is a bit distasteful, but let me cover it so as to put any thoughts that some of you may have in the back of your minds to rest:

Annasmom & Joe Ford: Both were within sight of each other when Anna disappeared and had not left the property during the period between when Anna arrived home from school and when she disappeared.

Anna's Two Brothers: Both were at school at the time Anna disappeared. They returned home later to find the sheriffs at the house.

No one in the family or among their friends who quickly came to the family's assistance in their time of crisis was involved in Anna's disappearance. My apologies to the family for even having to address the issue, but with people speculating at any and all possibilities, I feel it best to deal with this question directly.

HeartofTexas: I want to commend you for your efforts on behalf of Anna. You seem to have taken to heart (no pun intended) the search efforts and I know that I and the family are grateful for your tireless research. Please do not think that the above is rebuke of your line of investigation - I just want to address a difficult subject that I recognize may be residing in the back of some WSers' minds. Please, keep the suggestions coming!

 

[itsreenw]

ItsreenW: There had not been any posts for days, and I thought everyone had given up. Obviously I was wrong! What an amazing amount of material you all have covered. I am deeply grateful.

Annasmom, yep, you were wrong ).

We won't give up. Might have to push ourselves away from the PC for a day or 2, but I guarantee, we won't give up.

 

[HeartofTexas]

Dr. Doogie, I have never for even a minute suspected anyone in Anna's family. Not even for a minute. I sense that you know that but I felt a need to say it, just in case something I posted may have come out differently than I intended.

My searching for Anna (via the internet) goes on for hours some nights (and some mornings, when I have free time). If I get bored with unproductive searching, which happens daily, then I'll switch my searches to something more specific. Thus, the info re sex offenders in the San Mateo area. I don't usually feel like the info will be that helpful but I am not the last word on what will be helpful in the search for Anna... so I put it out there for possible review.

If I ever do post something that is offensive, I hope someone will PM me so that it can be deleted. Never in a million years would I intentionally post something that could hurt anyone related to the case.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

During the course of doing research into Anna's case, I have uncovered certain information that is of value to others in their searches for loved ones. I want to share two stories that may help us keep hope:

The adoptee that I had thought was Anna (but turned out not to be) was forwarded the information on every female born in San Francisco on September 25, 1967. One of the names on there seems to match her memory of some paperwork that she had seen before. It appears that she has been able to identify her birth-name and thus identify her mother's maiden name. She is much closer to finding her birth-parents as the result of our work.

Just today I contacted the Placer County Sheriffs and the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation matching up a missing girl from Auburn, CA (Alma Root) with an unidentified Jane Doe in Oklahoma. Alma disappeared three months before the JD was found. Most importantly, both had a blue heart tattoo on their chest. The Placer LE was very excited about the possible match and has contacted OK to get the dentals for a possible match. I will let you know how this turns out.

Even as we move forward concerning Anna, good things are occring in our wake.

 

[HeartofTexas]

That's great news, Dr. Doogie. I know how disappointing it was for you after so many months of searching for Anna that the adoptee with the same DOB turned out to not be Anna. It's good to know something positive is happening as a result of your research, though.

 

[Annasmom]

I found another website (based out of San Jose, CA) where someone might want to register Anna's name. It's the Vanished Children's Alliance. Their website is:

http://www.vca.org/

Heart of Texas: Somehow I thought Anna was registered with this group, but it turns out she's not. Thank you for the alert. She's on her way to being signed up.

 

[Annasmom]

During the course of doing research into Anna's case, I have uncovered certain information that is of value to others in their searches for loved ones. I want to share two stories that may help us keep hope:

The adoptee that I had thought was Anna (but turned out not to be) was forwarded the information on every female born in San Francisco on September 25, 1967. One of the names on there seems to match her memory of some paperwork that she had seen before. It appears that she has been able to identify her birth-name and thus identify her mother's maiden name. She is much closer to finding her birth-parents as the result of our work.

Just today I contacted the Placer County Sheriffs and the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation matching up a missing girl from Auburn, CA (Alma Root) with an unidentified Jane Doe in Oklahoma. Alma disappeared three months before the JD was found. Most importantly, both had a blue heart tattoo on their chest. The Placer LE was very excited about the possible match and has contacted OK to get the dentals for a possible match. I will let you know how this turns out.

Even as we move forward concerning Anna, good things are occring in our wake.

Doogie, this gives me chills all over. Utterly astonishing. Good for you.

 

[Buzz Mills]

SNIP

Most importantly, both had a blue heart tattoo on their chest.

SNIP

If a national database of missing people ever gets developed, it would solve so many John, and Jane Doe, cases, immediately. It's so unfortunate that in this day, and age, there are still so many unidentified bodies.

 

[itsreenw]

During the course of doing research into Anna's case, I have uncovered certain information that is of value to others in their searches for loved ones. I want to share two stories that may help us keep hope:

The adoptee that I had thought was Anna (but turned out not to be) was forwarded the information on every female born in San Francisco on September 25, 1967. One of the names on there seems to match her memory of some paperwork that she had seen before. It appears that she has been able to identify her birth-name and thus identify her mother's maiden name. She is much closer to finding her birth-parents as the result of our work.

Just today I contacted the Placer County Sheriffs and the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation matching up a missing girl from Auburn, CA (Alma Root) with an unidentified Jane Doe in Oklahoma. Alma disappeared three months before the JD was found. Most importantly, both had a blue heart tattoo on their chest. The Placer LE was very excited about the possible match and has contacted OK to get the dentals for a possible match. I will let you know how this turns out.

Even as we move forward concerning Anna, good things are occring in our wake.

Dr. Doogie, that is awesome!! Makes those long nights on the pc worth it, doesn't it. I feel the same way when I help an adoptee. I still haven't heard from the adoptee you are in contact with. I am certain if she gives me a name we can find her mom in a few days at most. The most tedious part is over-she knows her name. If you are still in contact with her, feel free to offer my services again. I will be glad to help.

And please do let us know about the JD. I have a feeling that will be on the news and WS will be acknowledged as will you. As my niece says, thats "Way cool"

Great sleuthing!!

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Dr. Doogie, that is awesome!! Makes those long nights on the pc worth it, doesn't it. I feel the same way when I help an adoptee. I still haven't heard from the adoptee you are in contact with. I am certain if she gives me a name we can find her mom in a few days at most. The most tedious part is over-she knows her name. If you are still in contact with her, feel free to offer my services again. I will be glad to help.

And please do let us know about the JD. I have a feeling that will be on the news and WS will be acknowledged as will you. As my niece says, thats "Way cool"

Great sleuthing!!

The Jane Doe in OK is still in the early investigative stages. Placer County has contacted OK for dentals, fingerprints, DNA, etc. A match is not a sure thing - one thing that the search for Anna has shown me is to not "count my chickens before they hatch". This may be a false alarm, but on the face of it, it looks promising that one family may have an answer soon (though not the best answer that they hoped for).

 

[mysteriew]

Good work Dr. Doogie.
Annasmom, please take heart. Some family may recieve news they really didn't want to hear, but at least now they know, they will be coming out of the limbo they have lived in. And that means there is hope for you.

 

[PonderingThings]

We were approximately 1/4 mile from our house when a car passed us and pulled infront of us about 25 ft. Saturn the dog barked at the car as a woman wearing a loose fitting white shirt with embroidery on it and long dark hair opened up the back door.

When we got the dog settled down she made small talk and addressed Anna primarily - I believe . I

I need some more help!

What kind of dog was Saturn? Was he in the yard with Anna? Did he normally hang out in the yard? Did he bark at strangers? Was he a friendly dog?

If someone was staking out your house (as one of my theories has them), camping along the creek and monitoring the house, then the dog would have to be contended with....

Did you find any dog treats around? Did the dog run into the woods a lot then (to play with a new friend?)? Was the dog tired and sluggish during all the search activity (drugged?)?

Did Anna find any new treasure in the week before she went missing? A marble? A shiny rock? A Robin's nest? Something someone might have used to "befriend" her so she would come quietly when ready?

 

[Annasmom]

I need some more help!

What kind of dog was Saturn? Was he in the yard with Anna? Did he normally hang out in the yard? Did he bark at strangers? Was he a friendly dog?

If someone was staking out your house (as one of my theories has them), camping along the creek and monitoring the house, then the dog would have to be contended with....

Did you find any dog treats around? Did the dog run into the woods a lot then (to play with a new friend?)? Was the dog tired and sluggish during all the search activity (drugged?)?

Did Anna find any new treasure in the week before she went missing? A marble? A shiny rock? A Robin's nest? Something someone might have used to "befriend" her so she would come quietly when ready?

Saturn was little more than a puppy; sometimes he would bark at people and sometimes not. He was very friendly, but stayed close to the family. I don't think he would have posed a threat to anybody, but I don't remember his barking. He could have been easily bribed with food, but I know he wasn't drugged. There weren't any signs of things which might have been used to befriend her, but she did come up with some odd ideas such as "I want to change my name. I want to be called Brandy." I thought maybe she picked this up at school. When people went searching, Saturn tagged along with them, but not with anything which would indicate he was following a trail or that he was anxious about a family member. He was a mutt, shepherd-afghan-you name it. Sweet dog, but not smart.

 

[viking]

Dear Anna'smom,
It may seem hocus pocusy, but I believe there is a reason there are 600 plus pages devoted to Anna. We were all sent by God, Allah, Zen, Confuscious, whomever! The point is things always happen for a reason. The guy upstairs answers our prayers sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly, but he does. I think it is safe to say that HE has carried you this far and he sure as hell will not drop you now:crazy: . Enough spiritual gobbldy gook. Just know that when you are tired, sad and frustrated you have got all of us to pick you up and keep on going! Anna's case is especially close to my heart because I grew up there , I looked so much like her at that age and I was only a year older. In my 39 years I have NEVER forgotten about her and will not now.

Things I need to say: NEVER, EVER, did I for one second (and I am the suspicious type) believe that you or Joe have ANYTHING to do with Anna's dissapearance. I would have said so, believe me for Anna's sake if I believed it to be the case even if I were kicked off the board. I told Joe privately that as far as I was concerned he was her father, period, and that you are an amazing mother!

I dismissed the creek idea right away.

I believe that she was abducted. And I believe that while Waters and Brody were too chicken to do it theirselves, they had someone else do it. Brody's ex needs to be looked at again. Wait, she's dead, isn't she. Anyway, with Anna's brothers' account of the woman trying to lure Anna, I think "Brody" because if he could sway a smart doctor like George Waters, he HAD to have other "followers". Like the woman in the car.
No one shows that must interest in a child then blows it off. I'd bet the farm he was behind this. !

I believe that Anna is alive. Truly. I believe that it was about money changing hands for someone who desperately wanted a child.
We WILL find out what happened. Someone somewhere KNOWS. I have connections, Anna'smom. What do you need? I am here for you for whatever you want. You are an incredible example of a mother's love for her child!
Sincerely,
Mary Green

 

[Joe Ford]

I just finished reading an interesting study done in San Francisco, CA, entitled "Early Identification of Risk Factors of Parental Abduction". I wasn't looking for info on parental abduction when I found this article (but was instead looking for stats on child abduction), but did find the following conclusion highlighted in the article to be particularly interesting.


http://www.ncjrs.org/html/ojjdp/2001_3_1/page1.html

I am not saying this is what happened to Anna. I'm just showing the research and results obtained thru this study. Since Anna's father (and his partner Brody) probably fall under the category of paranoid delusionals, it does lend some merit to thinking they could have been involved in her abduction.

Brilliant research. You folks here are truly amazing. The example given, would seem to me, however, to describe a far more acute form of the disease than G.W. manifested.
Also, there is the fact that there was no involvement on his part with the family for the five years previous to Anna's disappearance. Brody, to my knowledge, was never formaly diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. I suspect that he suffered from a malady known as pathological narciccism , and equally dementia driven mental state.

 

[HeartofTexas]

Mr. Ford, I'm confused about the following statement:

Also, there is the fact that there was no involvement on his part with the family for the five years previous to Anna's disappearance.

You may have cleared this up earlier but, if there was no involvement for the previous 5 years, how was the Eifee name change dealt with? Was that done in the first few months after Anna was born, and not later, as I previously thought?

I agree that Mr. Brody more than likely was a pathological narcissist. I spoke a bit too broadly when I classified both of them as paranoid delusionals. However, narcissism does carry some of the paranoid trait.

The process is three-stepped: (1) The person encounters an obstacle, (2) The person regresses to the primary Narcissistic phase, and (3) The person recuperates and moves back from the primary Narcissistic phase to attack the obstacle again. While in step (2), the person displays childish, immature behaviours. He feels that he is omnipotent and misjudges his power and the power of his opponents and opposition. He underestimates challenges facing him and pretends to be "Mr. Know-All". His sensitivity to the needs and emotions of others and his ability to empathize with them deteriorates sharply. He becomes intolerably haughty and arrogant, with sadistic and paranoid tendencies. Above all, he then seeks unconditional admiration, even when he does not deserve it. He is preoccupied with fantastic, magical, thinking and daydreams his life away. He tends to exploit others, to envy them, to be edgy and explode with unexplained rage. A person undergoing a psychological development crisis brought on by an insurmountable obstacle - will, mostly, revert to excessive and compulsive behaviour patterns.

http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php/type/doc/id/419

 

[Joe Ford]

Heart of Texas: While I was not yet on the scene at that time, I believe that the name business took place shortly before or shortly after Anna's birth. Annasmom could be more specific. I look forward to your future posts as they are always incisive.