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[scandi]

I agree Julianne,

Like Buzz says, sometimes I get over-exuberant. LOL I know there are the majority of teens right now that are good people, on a straight and narrow path. And every elder {well, I'm not that elder, only 62} says they can't believe how rowdy the new generation is. LOL

I still think with everything these kids have access to today they need to be guided. I got my grandaughter a cell phone. Got the bill. There is one person she talks to maybe 10 times a day! And I am paying for this? She is a great girl, but expects the most. I think she is very typical of our teen-age generation, and believe me I know she will end up on top of this crazy Nirvana lovin' but still doing well and serious generation.

I am very positive. Concerned about giving her the best guidance.



Scandi

 

[Samiya]

{well, I'm not that elder, only 62}

Scandi

Wow honey! I would never have picked that you're only a spring chicken

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

:laugh: :laugh:

He isn't even good looking :loser:

Oh gosh, strach, just started reading and burst out laughing at this! You are RIGHT. Both of them are cheap cheats - their liaison led to murder and they BOTH have to live with that. Both deceived Michelle, her family and her babies. JY should fry and that woman has destroyed her own life. There are NO excuses. She's in for a tough time, sure and deservedly so and they are both responsible for their own actions.

From the get-go, JY has been simply horrific, a hideous unnecessary blob of waste in my opinion for his treacherous ways and for being so unco-operative! He's expendable, quite disposable and the system will process this cunning fraudster until it finally enters a shredding machine. JMHO.

 

[Schmerty_Jones]

:laugh: :laugh:


Oh gosh, strach, just started reading and burst out laughing at this! You are RIGHT. Both of them are cheap cheats - their liaison led to murder and they BOTH have to live with that. Both deceived Michelle, her family and her babies. JY should fry and that woman has destroyed her own life. There are NO excuses. She's in for a tough time, sure and deservedly so and they are both responsible for their own actions.

From the get-go, JY has been simply horrific, a hideous unnecessary blob of waste in my opinion for his treacherous ways and for being so unco-operative! He's expendable, quite disposable and the system will process this cunning fraudster until it finally enters a shredding machine. JMHO.

AMEN! AMEN! :banghead: :banghead:

 

[Mygirlsadie]

Oh well that figures.....he had a d*mn mistress.....and a friend of Michelle to boot...why does this not even shock me anymore?..It should shock me it's so WRONG but it don't it's too common now and that is sad. (I just started reading on this so that is why I am late in finding out that he had a mistress)

 

[j2mirish]

Sorry, to get on my soap box, I just, I can't believe a "friend" would do something like this!

Makes me lose faith in humanity.

how nice of her to have attended the funeral..................:furious: :sick:

 

[raisincharlie]

how nice of her to have attended the funeral..................:furious: :sick:

J2mirish,

This is going to sound really strange and I'll try to get it typed in a way that makes some kind of sense. Actually, I do not find any negative emotion about this woman (MM) attending the funeral. My only negativity goes directly to the fact that she had some kind of affair with JY, the husband of her friend.

I see the appearance of MM at the funeral as the only means this woman had of trying to make some amends for the mistake she made. Her cooperation with the police also a means to make some amends as well. She cannot undo what happened, she cannot even say she is sorry, or beg forgiveness from MY. The least she could do was attend a service done in honor of her friend.

I'm not trying to justify her affair with the husband, an incredibly low blow for one friend to hand another friend, but I suspect this woman is paying dearly on the guilt scale for this indescretion, as rightfully she should.

Unless something is found to indicate that she thought or knew JY would do what I believe he did (murder his wife) then I must look at this and think it took a great deal of fortitude to attend this service, knowing she had this affair. If she has no involvement in the murder, this is I think, an issue for which she will never find forgiveness within herself. Personally I think JY is a predator, I think she may well be a victim to this predator. Until we know more, I'll give her the benefit of this doubt.

Okay everyone - let me have it :truce:

 

[j2mirish]

J2mirish,

This is going to sound really strange and I'll try to get it typed in a way that makes some kind of sense. Actually, I do not find any negative emotion about this woman (MM) attending the funeral. My only negativity goes directly to the fact that she had some kind of affair with JY, the husband of her friend.

I see the appearance of MM at the funeral as the only means this woman had of trying to make some amends for the mistake she made. Her cooperation with the police also a means to make some amends as well. She cannot undo what happened, she cannot even say she is sorry, or beg forgiveness from MY. The least she could do was attend a service done in honor of her friend.

I'm not trying to justify her affair with the husband, an incredibly low blow for one friend to hand another friend, but I suspect this woman is paying dearly on the guilt scale for this indescretion, as rightfully she should.

Unless something is found to indicate that she thought or knew JY would do what I believe he did (murder his wife) then I must look at this and think it took a great deal of fortitude to attend this service, knowing she had this affair. If she has no involvement in the murder, this is I think, an issue for which she will never find forgiveness within herself. Personally I think JY is a predator, I think she may well be a victim to this predator. Until we know more, I'll give her the benefit of this doubt.

Okay everyone - let me have it :truce:

rc.........as usual--you are right, and I do understand what you are saying- I guess I let the emotion of the affair, with her friends husband get in the way of thinking about it like you have, but I do not agree with your comment about jy being a predator, and she is a victim--she isnt 16......

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

J2mirish,

Unless something is found to indicate that she thought or knew JY would do what I believe he did (murder his wife) then I must look at this and think it took a great deal of fortitude to attend this service, knowing she had this affair. If she has no involvement in the murder, this is I think, an issue for which she will never find forgiveness within herself. Personally I think JY is a predator, I think she may well be a victim to this predator. Until we know more, I'll give her the benefit of this doubt.

Okay everyone - let me have it :truce:

What a fine sentence above, charlie! Mind if I nick it every now and then? I really thought I'd come up with every &^%$#@! under the sun about JY... but not predator!

Also, whereas an affair is one thing and we all know these things happen every day in every suburb worldwide - when that affair leads to such a brutal double murder of a wonderful mom and her fetus then HELLO ... he leverages himself out of "one of many" to one of a "dispicable few". And those few are NOT wanted in society.

Then -----> you take JY's disgusting and diabolical malicious intent through forcing Meredith to discover her lovely sister like that under the pretext of HELPING AND DOING A FAVOUR ..... AND, by God, it doesn't even stop there ..... leaving Cassie stranded for hours and hours completely alone with a dead, bloody mommy to try and understand???

Well! I really do feel more for a randomly squashed slug in a remote and untraversed Thailand rainforest than I do for this inhuman selfish disgusting coward!

Of course this is my opinion, and of course --------> it's unlikely to change...

UGH! :furious: :furious: :furious:

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

For what it's worth, Jm2, I'm actually quite disgusted with MY's "friend". Good lord. Look what her 'loyalty' brought in the back door? No, I do not say it is her fault some maniac of a husband was more concerned about HIS ideals in life that brought this on ... and I do not (at this stage) think she knew about it, expected it or dreamt of ebcouraging it .... but to be such a 2-faced, cheating and scheming B*t*h of a 'close friend' ... well - she's worth diddly squat as a friend, IMO

She has to comply with LE - it's got to be the least she can do to begin to forgive herself. But - she's entered a high-profile case. I don't think she helped or expected this. And her ride is not going to be easy. I feel sorry for her whereas I feel rocks for Jason. GOD! Your BEST FRIEND?????

This really brings that saying to the fore: with friends like that CHECK the enemies they're really dating could be your own husband!

 

[raisincharlie]

rc.........as usual--you are right, and I do understand what you are saying- I guess I let the emotion of the affair, with her friends husband get in the way of thinking about it like you have, but I do not agree with your comment about jy being a predator, and she is a victim--she isnt 16......

See I knew I couldn't get it out right ! I agree she wasn't 16 and I did not mean to imply anything relating to the affair. The victim thought is more metaphorical than literal. But I stand by the victim comment as the list of victims somehow related to JY continues to extend beyond MY and before this over, I suspect several more will be added. JMO

 

[raisincharlie]

<snip>

Then -----> you take JY's disgusting and diabolical malicious intent through forcing Meredith to discover her lovely sister like that under the pretext of HELPING AND DOING A FAVOUR ..... AND, by God, it doesn't even stop there ..... leaving Cassie stranded for hours and hours completely alone with a dead, bloody mommy to try and understand???

Well! I really do feel more for a randomly squashed slug in a remote and untraversed Thailand rainforest than I do for this inhuman selfish disgusting coward!

Of course this is my opinion, and of course --------> it's unlikely to change...

UGH! :furious: :furious: :furious:

You said it better than I -

 

[AlwaysShocked]

We don't know that MM was Michelle's BEST friend, do we? At this point we don't know how close the friendship was.

Plus, it does seem that in lots and lots of cases of adultery, the "other woman" is someone whom the wife knows or knows of. That hubbie is not out meeting a stranger, but is seeing a neighbor, a friend, a co-worker or an acquaintance of the wife.

This guy is a jerk and, I believe, a murderer. Question now is whether it was planned ahead of time or was done during a big fight or something like that.

The fact that he left and then came back and killed her points to premeditation to me.

 

[fran]

Well, it appears MM will pay for her indescretion dearly with the loss of her reputation. I understand she's a teacher. I also understand that none of the other sorority sisters knew about this affair until three weeks ago when told by LE.

So LE's been working on this angle for weeks. Kudos to them for keeping this under wraps and giving JY room to hang himself. Hope they had some phone's tapped. :loser:

What a slime. He is a predator as he latched onto MM when she was most vulnerable, going through marital problems of her own. That's still no excuse for her having an affair with her supposed friends husband.

IMO, JY is a poor excuse for a human being. Leaving his own 2 yo daughter with the body of her mom for all that time. That in itself is unforgiveable. :behindbar

This is another case that just breaks your heart. Everyone loses here.

JMHO
fran

 

[raisincharlie]

Well, it appears MM will pay for her indescretion dearly with the loss of her reputation. I understand she's a teacher. I also understand that none of the other sorority sisters knew about this affair until three weeks ago when told by LE.
<snip>
fran

More than the sorority sisters found out about it three weeks ago...

 

[jilly]

whenever everyone found out about this affair, I think it must have been after the funeral. So if MM goes to this funeral with her little secret, I honestly don't know how she did it.

 

[fran]

More than the sorority sisters found out about it three weeks ago...

Do you mean the posters giving info on the internet? I tend to think it might be one of these sorority sisters that was the poster................or.............maybe another g/f??????????

Until today, many people thought that was just rumor. Even I wasn't sure, but I'm not surprised that it turned out to be true.

JMHO
fran

 

[Floh]

He isn't even good looking :loser:

Yeah. ugly SOB, isn't he? while i still didn't think he did it, i was so not holding his unfortunate looks against him, but it's fair game now.

what a beauty like Michelle ever saw in him, i don't know. he must be one he!! of a smooth talker. :furious: :furious: :furious:

 

[packerdog]

Yeah. ugly SOB, isn't he? while i still didn't think he did it, i was so not holding his unfortunate looks against him, but it's fair game now.

what a beauty like Michelle ever saw in him, i don't know. he must be one he!! of a smooth talker. :furious: :furious: :furious:

LOL, I was laughing so hard that I started coughing and had to drink some tea! Holding his unfortunate looks against him! LOL LOL LOL

 

[Floh]

LOL, I was laughing so hard that I started coughing and had to drink some tea! Holding his unfortunate looks against him! LOL LOL LOL