April 29 weekend of Sleuthiness

[Just the Fax]

No they don't. This is grossly inaccurate. :shakehead:

Don't what?
The DA office staff salary info is public record.
If you think I posted "grossly inaccurate" information, feel free to offer an opinion other than attacking a poster.:waiting:

 

[Bottle Cap]

Well that ends THAT conversation.

So you're saying he received a copy of the draft of the separation agreement (without the blanks filled in) twice then...once when his email proggie sent it to him without her knowledge, and a second time when she sent it to him even though it was incomplete?

 

[Bottle Cap]

I agree with you - if its valid for one, it should be valid for the other.

The message I was replying to laid out the points of a theory involving him.

But there's a theory involving BC too. Involving finances. I don't think the life insurance was enough to bother killing anybody for, but bleeding money for the next 18 years (for twice the amount JP would have been hit up for, plus alimony plus travel expenses) - does this help you to see why people think money was a motive here?

 

[Just the Fax]

Assuming Cisco security is proven correct and Bradley was using that FXO capable router at 10PM Friday night, what logical explanation can be offered as to why it mysteriously disappeared the next day????

 

[Tink56]

Hi JBean,
I'm bumping this post to give you another perspective on the case. As you'll note RZ's description was negated by the jogging route the defense presented.

And, the following is the link to WRAL. They've maintained all the testimony, legal docs, etc.

http://www.wral.com/specialreports/nancycooper/?navkeyword=brad+cooper

Beautiful day in our homeland (CA), isn't it.

Tink

I don't understand all the criticism for the ADAs in this case....the judge in this case, who's job it is to make sure each side plays by the rules, to keep the trial moving, etc has done a very poor job. He, at times, looks like he's in over his head, especially with the more technical testimony.

Second, it seems to me, as a newcomer, that most people on this board are of the opinion that BC is innocent (or guilty...but blame the CPD and DA for screwing up the case). Now, I'll agree that the ADA has wasted much time on irrelevant testimony. Sometimes, less is more or you risk losing your audience. The ducks, the necklace, gossip ad nauseum all cloud the real proof and the real issues.

A) Could the CPD rule BC out as a suspect? No
B) Did BC have Means, Motive, Opportunity? Yes
C) Were there any other viable suspects? No
D) How many "coincidences" or mismatching facts must it take before one says "ok, that's one too many"
E) The defense may talk about "spoilage"...but the only files(s) related to that google map search are relevant. The rest is diversion.
F) I'm not sure why the defense introduced the jogging route and timeline for NC...because the 6:55am to 7:11am elapsed time from house to where the Food Lion guy said he saw her contradicts the more precise testimony of Rosemary Zednick at 7:10am. Secondly, I don't see NC as the type shopping for meat at Food Lion.
G) On that point, eyewitness testimony is the worst type of evidence.
H) This is a purely circumstantial case...but people have been convicted on less evidence.
I) Lastly, while not necessary, there is no proof he didn't do it besides that phone call. If the Cisco router info comes into testimony and shows he had the means to place a call to himself.......that's zero.

 

[Just the Fax]

Sorry if you took my pointing out that you posted something false as a personal attack on you. Can explain why that is?

If you disagree, feel free to offer your opinion.
I stand by my post.

 

[GhostCrab]

Well your statement supports the point I was making so let's use it.

JP feared having to pay child support money. (Some say BC also feared having to pay child support money)

Again I ask, how is BC not able to be excluded but JP is?

I agree. He's a dodgy cheater who cheated an his mistress with N. He's a liar who denied the extent of his relationship he had with N leading up to her death.
Again, how was he excluded? Oh, that's right, he said he didn't do it .

 

[cityslick]

Ok, you win.
Forget all the hearsay by the friends...that was never evidence of murder.

BTW, if Bradley is guilty (I believe he is), does that mean the witnesses that INSISTED they saw Nancy jogging Saturday am are not credible either:waitasec:

Not really the same thing. I believe RZ really believes she saw NC running that day. JA insisting on certain things as fact as a means to cast BC in the most negative light is different.

 

[jrb0124]

But there's a theory involving BC too. Involving finances. I don't think the life insurance was enough to bother killing anybody for, but bleeding money for the next 18 years (for twice the amount JP would have been hit up for, plus alimony plus travel expenses) - does this help you to see why people think money was a motive here?

I have no doubt that those who are convinced of BC guilt may feel money is a factor. I think you are missing my point.

The reason I and others have pointed out alternate theories (i.e. JP), and the motive involved with those theories, is that there is some sentiment here that there is no CE or pointers for that matter to any other possible suspects - when in fact others could be assessed the same motive, means and opp.

 

[Bottle Cap]

Well your statement supports the point I was making so let's use it.

JP feared having to pay child support money. (Some say BC also feared having to pay child support money)

Again I ask, how is BC not able to be excluded but JP is?

Because there is no pile of CE against JP. Just this one random motive, and the fact that he spent the day with his kids. How he knew NC was going to jog and drove around to find her, then murdered her and dumped her body, all in broad daylight without ever being spotted - while his kids were home alone - I don't know. It would be more believable if JP had been out and about the neighborhood before daylight.

 

[WolfpackWoman]

Don't what?
The DA office staff salary info is public record.
If you think I posted "grossly inaccurate" information, feel free to offer an opinion other than attacking a poster.:waiting:

Great idea. Just looked up salaries via the N&O. In 2008, Cummings made $119k, Fitzhugh made $84k, and Zellinger was ~$45k (I believe it was his first year on the job).

 

[Danielle59]

Yes, he worked for CISCO. Does that mean that he was going to continue to work for CISCO? Does that mean he planned on staying in Cary? Does that mean he wouldn't leave the country? How do you know the answers to any of these questions? And how is it not due processs to ask them, considering he told her to go to Canada, and then pulled back from that when he saw financial responsibilities? Am I wrong, because I have experience with divorce, to question these things? My ex would have left me and my children high and dry, if it not for his suspended sentence and probation that required compliance, if he had the chance. IMO, it is ridiculous to assume that all ex-husbands plan to pay in a divorce....and to further the argument with BC, if he cared so much, why didn't he just get the green card for her to work years earlier? Why didn't he suggest he would just get it now if she would stay in the area with the kids, so she could support herself. Who says that was in the mix?

With all due respect, their lives were not necessarily like yours despite what you experienced in your divorce. There has been nothing to suggest that he planned to leave Cisco, a company he had been with for years and whom just, I am quite confident, paid for his MBA which would neccesitate him repaying them. Cisco is an International company, if they had an employee, despite what country they relocated him to, that was not paying their child support he could have been garnished. There is nothing to suggest that he planned to relocate outside of looking for employment in Canada at one point when they were both planning on moving back there that he was not able to obtain.

We really don't know all the issues about why she didn't ultimately go to Canada? Could it be because he could not find employment? All we have heard is testimony from friends and some family, which I don't find reliable at this time. Maybe she had not pushed for a green card in the past. A lot of your assumptions are just that assumptions, there is really nothing to back them up.

 

[Just the Fax]

Not really the same thing. I believe RZ really believes she saw NC running that day. JA insisting on certain things as fact as a means to cast BC in the most negative light is different.

So you think JA lied and intentionally perjured herself on the stand to help convict BC????

I don't.

 

[GhostCrab]

Great idea. Just looked up salaries via the N&O. In 2008, Cummings made $119k, Fitzhugh made $84k, and Zellinger was ~$45k (I believe it was his first year on the job).

Also, if there are any student loans outstanding, there is a loan forgiveness program for working in the public sector.

 

[SleuthinNC]

I agree. He's a dodgy cheater who cheated an his mistress with N. He's a liar who denied the extent of his relationship he had with N leading up to her death.
Again, how was he excluded? Oh, that's right, he said he didn't do it .

And when listening to his interview with the Det. it appears HE was confused as to why the CPD wasn't asking him more questions to clear him as a suspect.

 

[sunshine05]

But there's a theory involving BC too. Involving finances. I don't think the life insurance was enough to bother killing anybody for, but bleeding money for the next 18 years (for twice the amount JP would have been hit up for, plus alimony plus travel expenses) - does this help you to see why people think money was a motive here?

That makes no sense, without the kids mother, he would still have to support his kids and most likely hire a full-time nanny to watch them while he was at work. It is ridiculous to assert that money was a motive.

 

[cityslick]

So you think JA lied and intentionally perjured herself on the stand to help convict BC????

I don't.

I think JA making statements like 'she would only jog if I was with her' and the whole painting story which to this day we only have her word and no one elses makes her testimony suspect. I think after this past week the jury would agree.

I think she would do anything in her power to make sure he goes to jail, irregardless of the truth. IMO

 

[Danielle59]

Not earning money right this second but publicity=$$
How many of you have said this weekend you would hire him or refer him to a friend and thought he was an excellent attorney? Tada.. $$$.

He still has massive overhead that has to be paid now, not in the future.

 

[Just the Fax]

Great idea. Just looked up salaries via the N&O. In 2008, Cummings made $119k, Fitzhugh made $84k, and Zellinger was ~$45k (I believe it was his first year on the job).

http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/02/14/989482/state-government-salaries.html

Yep, that is right.

3 years of law school and the lead ADA is making $45,000 ....WOW

 

[Bottle Cap]

And when listening to his interview with the Det. it appears HE was confused as to why the CPD wasn't asking him more questions to clear him as a suspect.

Nobody ever addresses this. JP would have had to drive around Cary looking for NC on her jogging route. He would have had to stop his car and either kill her on a jogging trail - at an hour popular with joggers due to the heat - or force her into his car. He would have driven down Fielding, in a car unknown to neighborhood residents, in broad daylight, and back out again. All this time, however long this would have taken, his children would be home alone. Really? Really??

Edited to include: add in there whatever time it would have taken for him to remove most of the clothes off a dead body. All in broad daylight.