April 29 weekend of Sleuthiness

[GhostCrab]

I'm sure you don't mean to imply that if you were sitting in the courtroom during a murder trial for a sibling, you would be giggling and chatting during testimony. Seriously, if you weren't there to hear the testimony, why would you bother attending?

The morning that I was there they were carrying on during the testimony of the CPD. It was just really odd and maybe you needed to be there to fully understand how awkward it was.

 

[GhostCrab]

it is obviously not that important to the case.
I did hear Det Young asked one question about the shoes and said they were not recovered.

I simply asked the question to the board about the mysterious shoes.
To me, it shows he ditched them for some reason.

Just like he ditched the ducks, right?

And if you want to dismiss the ducks NOW, fine, but go back and read thru some of the threads because they were awfully important THEN to you folks who think he is guilty. Just sayin' 'cause you can't have both ways, so which is it?

 

[NCEast]

Just like he ditched the ducks, right?

And if you want to dismiss the ducks NOW, fine, but go back and read thru some of the threads because they were awfully important THEN to you folks who think he is guilty. Just sayin' 'cause you can't have both ways, so which is it?

The ducks and sticks were important to me. I was thinking the entire time that both had been damaged in a struggle in the foyer. I was obviously wrong unless there was bodily fluids on them that was never checked.

 

[Just the Fax]

Just like he ditched the ducks, right?

And if you want to dismiss the ducks NOW, fine, but go back and read thru some of the threads because they were awfully important THEN to you folks who think he is guilty. Just sayin' 'cause you can't have both ways, so which is it?

The ducks were not important to the case....just like the blowpoke in the Mike Peterson case. Just a theory.
She was strangled, not beaten with a duck.
It was nothing more than a theory, based on what the state thought they had. Just because the ducks were a mistake, in no way takes away from their theory she was strangled to death by Bradley in the house.

 

[otto]

The morning that I was there they were carrying on during the testimony of the CPD. It was just really odd and maybe you needed to be there to fully understand how awkward it was.

It's surprising that the Judge hasn't made a remark, using the Royal We, emphasizing the importance of silence in the court.

 

[Just the Fax]

The ducks and sticks were important to me. I was thinking the entire time that both had been damaged in a struggle in the foyer. I was obviously wrong unless there was bodily fluids on them that was never checked.

No body fluids on the boxed ducks
Body fluids were on the floors...the floors he decided to clean for some reason.

 

[NCEast]

It's surprising that the Judge hasn't made a remark, using the Royal We, emphasizing the importance of silence in the court.

Or at the very least, the ADAs should have told them. Especially if the jury was looking on with disdain.

 

[Palomine]

What I said is that Brad would have to be completely stupid to commit murder for $75k. I don't think he is completely stupid, and I don't believe that he would risk his freedom and life for that amount of money. The life insurance is not a motive.

I think Brad thought that if he let his wife move to Canada with the girls..that would be enough for her. I don't think he thought he would actually have to support them once they were gone. Had he not been reading her emails ..he wouldn't have seen the draft copy of the separation agreement

 

[otto]

The ducks and sticks were important to me. I was thinking the entire time that both had been damaged in a struggle in the foyer. I was obviously wrong unless there was bodily fluids on them that was never checked.

That's the theory that police presented. They showed pictures of the foyer, talked about ducks, presented testimony that the ducks were there on July 11, went on and on, and everyone was supposed to conclude that a huge struggle and murder occurred in the foyer. As the prosecutor so kindly stated, discovery of the ducks pretty much painted the stream of prosecution witnesses as liars. If police had looked for the ducks and found them, they could have concocted an alternate theory.

 

[Just the Fax]

I think Brad thought that if he let his wife move to Canada with the girls..that would be enough for her. I don't think he thought he would actually have to support them once they were gone. Had he not been reading her emails ..he wouldn't have seen the draft copy of the separation agreement

Yes Palomine, quiet as a mouse, introverted Bradley had "pent up rage" over this very aggressive separation agreement that was going to severely cripple him. His answer? Murder.

 

[Palomine]

The ducks and sticks were important to me. I was thinking the entire time that both had been damaged in a struggle in the foyer. I was obviously wrong unless there was bodily fluids on them that was never checked.

Why did the ducks end up at the Lawyers office? They could have been purchased again? The lawyer they were given to (for payment?) should have known their importance and could have said something a month ago. The ducks were brought in for dramatics

 

[SleuthinNC]

BC knows VoIP and BA told us he could have spoofed the morning calls. Yeah he spoofed the calls, that's how we know he did it. Oh wait we have zero evidence he spoofed the calls.

Ducks and sticks missing because there was a struggle in the foyer or bodily fluids in the foyer. Yeah that's how we know he did it. Oh wait the ducks weren't actually missing.

NC NEVER took her necklace off EVER. HP even saw it on her at the pool that Friday but it was found in BC drawer. Yeah he took her precious necklace form her THAT is how we know he did it. Oh wait she wasn't actually wearing the necklace that Friday.

NC was going to paint with JA on Saturday morning and didn't show up. See we knew BC did it. Oh wait, NC told RL she was going running Sat morning and BC had plans to play tennis with MH Sat morning that NC knew about.

Ok well BC did a 41 second Google search on Fielding Drive. See he picked out the site to dump the body, he must have done it. Pay no attention to the invalid timestamps, malware, unproperly secured PC, lack of proper forensic practice, witholding or lack of chain of custody documentation, repeated failed attempts to access file sharing port, etc. etc. etc.

Hmmm things are not looking good, if we don't come up with something it may look like we didn't really have a clue as to what we were doing but we know BC did it. We can't let the jury have the case as it stands now...

Oh THAT's right, he spoofed the calls. We have another piece of evidence from the same tainted laptop where we found out previous "evidence" that we thought was the smoking gun but turned out to be a water pistol.

How does that not look not only suspicious but also an extremely desperate attempt to pull a craptacular case out of the gutter?

 

[Maja]

What I said is that Brad would have to be completely stupid to commit murder for $75k. I don't think he is completely stupid, and I don't believe that he would risk his freedom and life for that amount of money. The life insurance is not a motive.

Would like to see the content of all the e-mails BC intercepted from NC's account from Apr 08 - 7.11.08. They may reveal so much. I have to remind myself the pros and def are privy to them.

 

[Palomine]

That's the theory that police presented. They showed pictures of the foyer, talked about ducks, presented testimony that the ducks were there on July 11, went on and on, and everyone was supposed to conclude that a huge struggle and murder occurred in the foyer. As the prosecutor so kindly stated, discovery of the ducks pretty much painted the stream of prosecution witnesses as liars. If police had looked for the ducks and found them, they could have concocted an alternate theory.

It seems that all the heavy duty cleaning was in that area. We were shown Brad Cooper's pillow case, he was not the cleanest dude and he obviously DID NOT do laundry on a regular basis..I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't having the kid's help him do laundry that day

 

[Just the Fax]

Why did the ducks end up at the Lawyers office? They could have been purchased again? The lawyer they were given to (for payment?) should have known their importance and could have said something a month ago. The ducks were brought in for dramatics

EXACTLY like Peterson's defense producing the famous blowpoke at the close of the trial. So dramatic it was.
In the end, the jury had the last laugh with their guilty verdict.

 

[SleuthinNC]

It's surprising that the Judge hasn't made a remark, using the Royal We, emphasizing the importance of silence in the court.

He actually said he didn't notice it happening after the jury asked the bailiff to ask the judge to request people stop talking during testimony.

 

[otto]

I think Brad thought that if he let his wife move to Canada with the girls..that would be enough for her. I don't think he thought he would actually have to support them once they were gone. Had he not been reading her emails ..he wouldn't have seen the draft copy of the separation agreement

Neighbors reported that Brad was okay with Nancy taking the children and leaving the country, but nothing Brad said or did supports that claim. Over and over again I read that Brad was okay with the move, but the facts suggest the opposite. Nancy had locked the passports in her car and she slept with the keys. If Brad was okay with Nancy taking the children out of the country, why did she lock the passports in her car? It sounds like she knew perfectly well that the only way to have both passports was to prevent Brad from having access.

One day Brad had to get something out of the car and she gave him the keys. He used that opportunity to take the passports. Why would he do that if he was okay with the children being removed from the country? Nancy and Brad then split the children's passports so neither could take them out of the country.

He was given a copy of the draft separation agreement, and didn't agree.

 

[Just the Fax]

I fully believe NC was wearing that necklace at the party Friday night.

 

[otto]

Why did the ducks end up at the Lawyers office? They could have been purchased again? The lawyer they were given to (for payment?) should have known their importance and could have said something a month ago. The ducks were brought in for dramatics

The prosecution knew about the ducks when they were located on April 6.

What is your theory on the ducks? The lawyers ran out an bought three ducks?

 

[Maja]

I fully believe NC was wearing that necklace at the party Friday night.

Even if she was, she wasn't wearing it the morning of 7.12.08.