GUILTY AR - Anne Pressly, 26, raped & murdered, Little Rock, 20 Oct 2008 #1

[kiki the parrot]

Has it ever been confirmed that there was genital mutilation or that her face was disfigured by anything other than blunt force trauma?

NO. As much as we've heard this, mostly here on this thread I have yet to see a link verifying these (which is why I qualified by saying IF these are true). Like Carla, I too am suspicious of the origins of these details--and have urged everyone to do likewise. Link anyone? JMO

 

[beaglebrd]

NO. As much as we've heard this, mostly here on this thread I have yet to see a link verifying these (which is why I qualified by saying IF these are true). Like Carla, I too am suspicious of the origins of these details--and have urged everyone to do likewise. Link anyone? JMO

None of that has been verified, but several of us live in town and have heard these things from people close to the case. I know we can't claim things as facts until they are reported by authorities, but what I've heard from people I trust to be telling the truth and not rumors, are the same things I've seen posted here by folks I do not know. It's not like there are 100 rumors and they don't add up, it's that there are a few things going around that have come from numerous sources that all say the same thing.

I wish these things were not true, but I'm 99 percent sure they are.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Has it ever been confirmed that there was genital mutilation or that her face was disfigured by anything other than blunt force trauma?

Morning Ruff!

I haven't heard it if it has been disclosed.

Blunt force trauma can indeed to major damage. Even splitting the skin wide open from the force as well as crushing bones. I can understand why they thought at first she may have been stabbed but later said that she wasn't.

Also sexual assaults that are done with such savagery can also result in traumatic injuries to the genital area with gross ripping and tearing.

I still continue to believe this is another home invasion done by a total stranger to Anne. He had seen her, maybe that night, maybe when he saw her buying the bracelet. He watched......poor Anne never knew he was watching or that danger lurked nearby.

We no longer can say with certainty if the crime was so horrific for the victim that the perpetrator knew them. We have seen cases in recent years where sadistic unspeakable things were done and the attacker/murderer did not know them at all. More and more it seems these people have their own internal rage and hatred stored inside of them and when they strike they are vicious.

That is what is scary to think about for we know people just like the one who murdered Anne are still out there and will strike again. It leaves us feeling very vulnerable even in our own homes no matter if we live in a good neighborhood or not. They could be anywhere at anytime.

Do we know that he bought gas with the credit card? Or could he have bought something else with the card, like beer and cigarettes?



imoo

 

[Carla Lashelle]

YellowDog,
... But if the perp came in while she let the dogs out, wouldn't a struggle have ensued in that den area off her bedroom? She had a TON of magazines on that coffee table, if the perp and her got into it in the den, wouldn't they at least be out of place? ....

Anne seemed like a strong girl, not a wimpy chick, one who would put up a good fight. Did all the struggle and attack happen only in her bedroom? Did the perp sneak in while she went out with the dogs and lie in wait in the bedroom? ...

I cannot imagine the dogs didn't bark at all that night? I have two shih tzu's who never bark, but sometimes they will in the middle of the night while on my bed and I ALWAYS get up and turn the outside lights on and make sure everything is OK, of course, I have an alarm system with all the bells and whistles too. Did she do that and get surprised? ....

The more I hear the more I lean to the fact that maybe she did know her perp(s), the dogs were familiar with the perp(s) and thus her guard was down and she let him/her/them in her house. Boy, if those dogs could talk, I bet they know a lot about that night.

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Based on just what is released/known, everythng has said she was attacked in her bed. Granted she coudl have gone back to the bed/bedroom, but the lack of a struggle makes that seem less likely.

I don't know how yappy cocker spaniels are. They aren't huge dogs, but some smaller ones make as much or more noise than a big dog. I heard there was a pet door on the house. Did the dogs have free access to the back yard (where they could have been let out or distracted away?) Also, how friendly were the dogs. I know some dogs that you would think would make a lot of fuss, but are actually big pussy cats and might be useless. Im not a dog person (I hate them was bit on the by a Pommeranian) so i dont know a lot about them really.

im not sure if she knew her attacker or not. it it was someone she knew a while, you would think maybe she would have mentioned to someone that, hey I know this creepy guy...

Im not big on conspiracy theories or making things overly complicated. most criminals, even those who make plans still rely a lot on opportunity, chance and luck.

I try to be as carefull as anyone else these days, if not more so. I have every reason to be. since my sister and i were caught in our home by ultimately her murderer. But still, if I come home late, have my arms full with packages or groceries, am on the phone, etc. I might not lock the front door. Or im taking out trash and am on the phone and don't lock the back door. Maybe we are using the pool or hot tub at night and don't lock the glass door to the lanai. 363 days of the year i bet our doors are locked. But now and then i get up and dang, the front door wasn't locked. Im sure Anne was no different than me or anyone else in that regard. She could have left a door unlocked or a window open. Maybe she didnt fasten the pet door closed. Maybe she didn't latch the gate taking out trash. Who knows. Especially if she had a busy day with her mom, they gym, a party, etc. And work early the next day...

Having said that, i still think there was some sort of targeting of Anne. Especailly if she was attacked in bed, while asleep. most robbers would try to enter a vacant house (like a lot of robberies happen during the day when no one is home) and if it was occupied they might try not to wake the person up, or would just konk them on the head, tie them up, and steal their jewelry or dvd player. So this doesnt see like a normal robbery.

If I had the mental stamina i would sit down and make a thorough list of supposedly accurate details of the case as they have been released by official or creditable sources and try to put them into some sort of useful sequence.

If an autopsy report were released that might provide more insight into the why's and how's of the crime. Like in the Eve Carson murder, the autopsy report contradicted initial statements of a sexual assault becuase eve suffered a gunshot wound to that area.

Anne's death deeply saddens and troubles me. I think about it off/on all day and night.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Has it ever been confirmed that ... her face was disfigured by anything other than blunt force trauma?

I heard a radio interview on 93.3 FLZ here in Tampa, on the MJ Morning show with (and I forget now) either a close friend or relative of Anne's. I believe it was the Monday after her death. But that person said very clearly no, that it had been reported she had been stabbed but the damage was caused by the trauma, and the initial reports were wrong. The MJ Morning show covered the story a couple times. I think a station intern from MJ's show knew or worked with Anne or something like that. So, you can take that as what you will.


I will go to the MJ show web site and search around to see if they have audio of the interview. they have a lot of that stuff online.

 

[kiki the parrot]

I still continue to believe this is another home invasion done by a total stranger to Anne...

We no longer can say with certainty if the crime was so horrific for the victim that the perpetrator knew them. We have seen cases in recent years where sadistic unspeakable things were done and the attacker/murderer did not know them at all. More and more it seems these people have their own internal rage and hatred stored inside of them and when they strike they are vicious.

That is what is scary to think about for we know people just like the one who murdered Anne are still out there and will strike again. It leaves us feeling very vulnerable even in our own homes no matter if we live in a good neighborhood or not. They could be anywhere at anytime.

Do we know that he bought gas with the credit card? Or could he have bought something else with the card, like beer and cigarettes?

(bold mine) ITA This is my feeling exactly. Their own seething rage and hatred (perhaps fueled, ignited or unleashed by some sort of drug binge but not necessarily) of which Anne was an arbitrarily, not personally, selected target. JMO

 

[YellowDog]

NO. As much as we've heard this, mostly here on this thread I have yet to see a link verifying these (which is why I qualified by saying IF these are true). Like Carla, I too am suspicious of the origins of these details--and have urged everyone to do likewise. Link anyone? JMO

There are some links out there but they are mostly on blogs. I believe it was first reported on America's Most Wanted but they may have jumped the gun.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

new video about stalking and Anne Pressly from CNN. Nothing really new. But it helps keep the buzz going.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2008/11/15/issues.women.stalkers.cnn

 

[YellowDog]

YellowDog,
I got goosebumps too when I heard the Mother say it was unusual for the porch light to be on. The other thing that struck me was the fact the house on that morning she found Anne was in perfect order, not a thing out of place. There was no sign of forced entry right? But if the perp came in while she let the dogs out, wouldn't a struggle have ensued in that den area off her bedroom? She had a TON of magazines on that coffee table, if the perp and her got into it in the den, wouldn't they at least be out of place? Anne seemed like a strong girl, not a wimpy chick, one who would put up a good fight. Did all the struggle and attack happen only in her bedroom? Did the perp sneak in while she went out with the dogs and lie in wait in the bedroom? Has anyone seen what her mode of operation was with taking out her dogs, did she walk them on a leash, did they go out front or back, on their own? I cannot imagine the dogs didn't bark at all that night? I have two shih tzu's who never bark, but sometimes they will in the middle of the night while on my bed and I ALWAYS get up and turn the outside lights on and make sure everything is OK, of course, I have an alarm system with all the bells and whistles too. Did she do that and get surprised? The more I hear the more I lean to the fact that maybe she did know her perp(s), the dogs were familiar with the perp(s) and thus her guard was down and she let him/her/them in her house. Boy, if those dogs could talk, I bet they know a lot about that night.

Hi MJ:
I've been thinking a lot about this case. The porch light on leads me to believe someone came calling (perhaps she knew they were coming over) and she turned on the light for them. Then there is the house in perfect order which leads me to wonder if she willingly bedded down with someone she knew not knowing he was a psychopath. Anne was 6' tall I believe so she was not some tiny little woman. From the video the furniture looks to be in place unlike it would look if there had been a struggle. I blieve she was killed lying in the bed (maybe even asleep when first attacked) and never got out of the bed. One stab could have disabled her completely and the beating done with her lying in her own bed. The dogs were probably let outside before bedding down. I don't think Anne would have been out walking her dogs after 10:30 at night.

The killer probably left by the back door and he could have been familiar enough with the dogs that they didn't even bark.

She could also have left the porch light on when she went to the party and come in through the back door with someone when she returned. I think she knew her killer!

 

[chicagofa13]

I think of stalkers in two types, the lonely guy, who stays at home and fixates on something on TV (maybe he worked graveyard and saw Anne on her new morning show). The other being the 'strip club' guy, more aggressive, gift giver, shows up in person. I think if Anne had one, it was the quiet type.

If the dogs were running loose they probably weren't a factor. I lived with cockers and they can be barky but outside they pretty much didn't give a rip.

 

[MCDRAW]

Hi MJ:
I've been thinking a lot about this case. The porch light on leads me to believe someone came calling (perhaps she knew they were coming over) and she turned on the light for them. Then there is the house in perfect order which leads me to wonder if she willingly bedded down with someone she knew not knowing he was a psychopath. Anne was 6' tall I believe so she was not some tiny little woman. From the video the furniture looks to be in place unlike it would look if there had been a struggle. I blieve she was killed lying in the bed (maybe even asleep when first attacked) and never got out of the bed. One stab could have disabled her completely and the beating done with her lying in her own bed. The dogs were probably let outside before bedding down. I don't think Anne would have been out walking her dogs after 10:30 at night.

The killer probably left by the back door and he could have been familiar enough with the dogs that they didn't even bark.

She could also have left the porch light on when she went to the party and come in through the back door with someone when she returned. I think she knew her killer!

I think she knew her killer too.

 

[colette]

I doubt Ann "willingly bedded down" with her killer that night, she had to get up early for work and she was not known to be dating anyone. I think she came home and forgot to turn off the porch light, maybe even leaving a door unlocked. The dogs could have gotten loose when the killer left her home. The dogs were known to get loose and they probably barked a lot too. So no one paid much attention if they did bark, I would guess.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

You would think if it was someone she knew that would make it easier to find that person... like most of us have some idea of who our friends know. Its somewhat rare for someone to have a particular, close friend (that you would invite over at 11 at nite when you had to be up early the next day) that no one knew about. I woudl think if she had a close male friend, friends of his would know. i dont think a guy would keep quiet dating or having a relationship with her. I just dont know. you can make several different theories fit the limited information, but usually no one theory fits everything.

 

[kiki the parrot]

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Based on just what is released/known, everythng has said she was attacked in her bed. Granted she coudl have gone back to the bed/bedroom, but the lack of a struggle makes that seem less likely.

I don't know how yappy cocker spaniels are. They aren't huge dogs, but some smaller ones make as much or more noise than a big dog. I heard there was a pet door on the house. Did the dogs have free access to the back yard (where they could have been let out or distracted away?) Also, how friendly were the dogs. I know some dogs that you would think would make a lot of fuss, but are actually big pussy cats and might be useless. Im not a dog person (I hate them was bit on the by a Pommeranian) so i dont know a lot about them really.

im not sure if she knew her attacker or not. it it was someone she knew a while, you would think maybe she would have mentioned to someone that, hey I know this creepy guy...

Im not big on conspiracy theories or making things overly complicated. most criminals, even those who make plans still rely a lot on opportunity, chance and luck.
I try to be as carefull as anyone else these days, if not more so. I have every reason to be. since my sister and i were caught in our home by ultimately her murderer. But still, if I come home late, have my arms full with packages or groceries, am on the phone, etc. I might not lock the front door. Or im taking out trash and am on the phone and don't lock the back door. Maybe we are using the pool or hot tub at night and don't lock the glass door to the lanai. 363 days of the year i bet our doors are locked. But now and then i get up and dang, the front door wasn't locked. Im sure Anne was no different than me or anyone else in that regard. She could have left a door unlocked or a window open. Maybe she didnt fasten the pet door closed. Maybe she didn't latch the gate taking out trash. Who knows. Especially if she had a busy day with her mom, they gym, a party, etc. And work early the next day...

Having said that, i still think there was some sort of targeting of Anne. Especailly if she was attacked in bed, while asleep. most robbers would try to enter a vacant house (like a lot of robberies happen during the day when no one is home) and if it was occupied they might try not to wake the person up, or would just konk them on the head, tie them up, and steal their jewelry or dvd player. So this doesnt see like a normal robbery.

If I had the mental stamina i would sit down and make a thorough list of supposedly accurate details of the case as they have been released by official or creditable sources and try to put them into some sort of useful sequence.

If an autopsy report were released that might provide more insight into the why's and how's of the crime. Like in the Eve Carson murder, the autopsy report contradicted initial statements of a sexual assault becuase eve suffered a gunshot wound to that area.

Anne's death deeply saddens and troubles me. I think about it off/on all day and night.

(bold mine) Agree w bolded. Watched video clip from link you provided, and can't believe LE would think robbery was the motive! No way. When I say arbitrarily selected, I mean inasfar as Anne merely fit a 'type' that this perp likes to victimize--which includes brutalizing women IMO. As for simple robbery being motive I'm not buying it either. No way. JMO

 

[colette]

Many women have been followed from stores or on the street and killed by strangers. There have been recent cases where women have been followed home and the killer returns to attack later, even on another day. Someone could have seen her out, knew her from TV and followed her home. It also is not uncommon for attackers of women to lie in wait until the victim is asleep and they attack, very common scenarios.

 

[kiki the parrot]

Hi MJ:
I've been thinking a lot about this case. The porch light on leads me to believe someone came calling (perhaps she knew they were coming over) and she turned on the light for them. Then there is the house in perfect order which leads me to wonder if she willingly bedded down with someone she knew not knowing he was a psychopath. Anne was 6' tall I believe so she was not some tiny little woman. From the video the furniture looks to be in place unlike it would look if there had been a struggle. I blieve she was killed lying in the bed (maybe even asleep when first attacked) and never got out of the bed. One stab could have disabled her completely and the beating done with her lying in her own bed. The dogs were probably let outside before bedding down. I don't think Anne would have been out walking her dogs after 10:30 at night.

The killer probably left by the back door and he could have been familiar enough with the dogs that they didn't even bark.

She could also have left the porch light on when she went to the party and come in through the back door with someone when she returned. I think she knew her killer!

(bold mine) Agree w bolded.

I doubt Ann "willingly bedded down" with her killer that night, she had to get up early for work and she was not known to be dating anyone. I think she came home and forgot to turn off the porch light, maybe even leaving a door unlocked. The dogs could have gotten loose when the killer left her home. The dogs were known to get loose and they probably barked a lot too. So no one paid much attention if they did bark, I would guess.

ITA!

 

[YellowDog]

You would think if it was someone she knew that would make it easier to find that person... like most of us have some idea of who our friends know. Its somewhat rare for someone to have a particular, close friend (that you would invite over at 11 at nite when you had to be up early the next day) that no one knew about. I woudl think if she had a close male friend, friends of his would know. i dont think a guy would keep quiet dating or having a relationship with her. I just dont know. you can make several different theories fit the limited information, but usually no one theory fits everything.

I believe she left the party around 9:30. If it was someone new she was dating, she might have kept it to herself until she saw whether or not it was going to develop into a relationship. Or if she was dating someone from work, she might have kept it quiet. Could she have been dating a married man? Did she leave the party alone or with someone? Did she spend a lot of time talking to a particular man at the party?

She was a 26 year old beautiful woman so I'm sure she did some dating. The neatness of the house still makes me think it was someone she knew and let into her house willingly.

I'm not trying to tarnish this beautiful woman's reputation. I'm just trying to think of every possibility.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

I believe she left the party around 9:30. If it was someone new she was dating, she might have kept it to herself until she saw whether or not it was going to develop into a relationship. Or if she was dating someone from work, she might have kept it quiet. Could she have been dating a married man? Did she leave the party alone or with someone? Did she spend a lot of time talking to a particular man at the party?

She was a 26 year old beautiful woman so I'm sure she did some dating. The neatness of the house still makes me think it was someone she knew and let into her house willingly.

I'm not trying to tarnish this beautiful woman's reputation. I'm just trying to think of every possibility.

I largely agree except at least as far as what has been publically stated she wasn't involved with anyone right now. And I would think after the crime, someone she was involved with would have come forward (if it wasn't the killer obviously). So there doesn't seem to be a boyfriend that we know of. A real mystery. And if she talked or texted someone that night saying she was home and ready for bed you have to go by that implication that she was alone without any other evidence.

 

[LillyRush]

I have just read lately about so many people that were viciously attacked and even murdered by people they didn't even know that I no longer believe crimes like this shows it has to be someone that knew her.

Some of these ruthless killers have such internal rage that they take it out on their victims whether they know them or not.

I think he may have seen her come in from the birthday party then waited and knocked on her door and due to her living in a very nice neighborhood where she felt safe, she opened the door. She most likely tried to fight him back and he beat her senseless because she dared to come up against him. Then he took her purse after he had beaten and degraded her and left.

imoo

I totally agree. I think the notion that there's always a correlation between the level of brutality and whether the attack was personal is definitely a generalization. The idea should be revised if it's going to be used at all as a starting point in an investigation.

Right now, I think this could go either way. She was killed in her bed, but that could just be because the perp got all the way into house while she was sleeping and started attacking her once he/she came upon her in the room. I saw an online news clip yesterday that said there was an item missing that she and her mother purchased earlier that same day, but they were keeping further details on that secret.

 

[ginzy]

I believe she left the party around 9:30. If it was someone new she was dating, she might have kept it to herself until she saw whether or not it was going to develop into a relationship. Or if she was dating someone from work, she might have kept it quiet. Could she have been dating a married man? Did she leave the party alone or with someone? Did she spend a lot of time talking to a particular man at the party?

She was a 26 year old beautiful woman so I'm sure she did some dating. The neatness of the house still makes me think it was someone she knew and let into her house willingly.

I'm not trying to tarnish this beautiful woman's reputation. I'm just trying to think of every possibility.

I agree w/this I had been wondering the same thing. Maybe she asked her mother not to stay over because she was expecting company? If it were someone she worked with, maybe they were needing to keep it hush hush since they worked together, or maybe he was the one obsessed with her? If he were married all the more reason for both of them not to say anything to anyone. I think she knew her killer and I think her dogs knew him too. Most dogs will not leave there humans if they sense danger especially if it were from a stranger. I think whoever killed her was there all night and she knew them and trusted them, they let her dogs out and then attacked her, probably turned the light on when the newspaper was thrown at the door.
Of course this is all speculation and theory.
I wish LE would relaease more details unless they have a POI and don't want to scare him off, especially if he works in the media.