GUILTY AR - Beverly Carter, 49, Little Rock, 25 Sep 2014 - #10

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  • #101
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So, there it is- right from her son's mouth- she was kidnapped with the intent of being held for ransom. Poor Beverly. That clears up one of our biggest puzzle pieces of why? Also, why she was just "a rich broker" and it was "a crime of opportunity". This seems so ridiculous, but now, it also seems true.

Wow! The first time we've had confirmation of the motive. Things are sure not looking good for Ms. Crystal. I will be very interested to see what evidence they have.
 
  • #102
I thought the motive was given many months ago, in one of the news reports. It clearly said ransom. I don't see how this makes things any worse for CL than things have been already. We have yet to hear any evidence. Sadly I don't foresee this being anything but a spectacle as long as AL is representing himself. I also feel it will probably drag out for a long time. Most cases never home to trial that quickly and I m sure AL is probably making a mess of things.
 
  • #103
I thought the motive was given many months ago, in one of the news reports. It clearly said ransom. I don't see how this makes things any worse for CL than things have been already. We have yet to hear any evidence. Sadly I don't foresee this being anything but a spectacle as long as AL is representing himself. I also feel it will probably drag out for a long time. Most cases never home to trial that quickly and I m sure AL is probably making a mess of things.

I certainly don't remember ransom ever being given as a for sure motive. That's why we spent so much time trying to cover every scenario...going over and over the little we did know. We assumed and speculated, but never had anything to back it up.

It sure makes sense though. One of his schemes and it went wrong. I very much wonder about the neighbor that reported seeing him with scratches, shaved head and washing his car......think they could have had the day/time wrong? Orthat it was reported incorrectly in the media? If that was *after* BCs abduction, it would sure make more sense. Or, maybe he was preparing a place to keep her?
 
  • #104
I'm happy to see he has so high spirits. Just hearing to him speak of Beverly shows how much love and respect he had for her. And using what happened to help others.
 
  • #105
Maybe we all read into it differently. From the November 2014 news reports and things that came out in court, such as here www.katv.com/story/27488956/new-details-released-in-beverly-carter-murder-case I didn't see any other reason he would have kidnapped her. Especially with the initial rich broker comment. However, I don't think there was intent to do anything sexual or make it look that way as blackmail. That doesn't even make sense to me. Her husband would not have cared one bit about anything but getting her back. Personally, I think AL tried to commit a crime that he didn't put much thought into and something went wrong. And went wrong quickly.

This is also one of the only cases I have followed on here where everything has been so tight lipped. We don't know anything more than we did months ago. I am glad to see the Carter family carrying on as best they can. I can't imagine them having to think of what the trials might bring. Especially with AL playing attorney.
 
  • #106
Its a shame that this seems so distant to my memory! I "feel" like they said no cameras, but once before they have journalists who are tweeting a blow by blow. Was that this case? lol. Ugh. I think thats correct. I probably should have just not posted with my half-sure response! :cuckoo:

No livestream here. I feel sure there will be reporters tweeting from courtroom but that part is JMO
 
  • #107
This Saturday, May 16th, UALR Class of 2015 Nursing students graduated. As I sat there watching and friends receive their well earned RN diploma, I wondered CL realized date.
 
  • #108
05/15/2015
10:39 AM ORDER TRANSPORT DETAINEE LEWIS, AARON M
Entry: ADC AARON LEWIS OMNIBUS HEARING JUNE 1, 2015
Images WEB https://contexte.aoc.arkansas.gov/i...resent2?DMS_ID=ZSV1QP969MQDDJX3R0WGOQNANE1C58


05/15/2015
10:39 AM ORDER TRANSPORT DETAINEE LEWIS, AARON M
Entry: ADC ARRON LEWIS EVIDENCE INSPECTION MAY 27, 2015
Images WEB https://contexte.aoc.arkansas.gov/i...present?DMS_ID=CL8QTL8776QOAIRBHQS49PYWW9DF2Q

https://caseinfo.aoc.arkansas.gov/c...=P&case_id=60CR-14-3928&begin_date=&end_date=
 
  • #109
Now they have STATE OF ARKANSAS VS AARON LEWIS AKA ARRON LEWIS
 
  • #110
Not releasing info in high profile cases, protects the integrity of case. And potential juror bias.
 
  • #111
http://www.katv.com/story/27488956/new-details-released-in-beverly-carter-murder-case

Felony information count two states: "The said defendant(s), in Pulaski County, on or about September 25, 2014, unlawfully, feloniously, without consent, did hold Beverly Carter for ransom or reward, so as to interfere substantially with her liberty, or in the alternative on or about September 25, 2014, unlawfully, feloniously, without consent did restrain Beverly Carter, so as to interfere substantially with her liberty with the purpose of terrorizing her or another person..."

From that article--- I really dont want to go back through all this, but we first thought it was ransom. Then, someone pointed out that it could have been a reward and there is also this part: or in the alternative on or about September 25, 2014, unlawfully, feloniously, without consent did restrain Beverly Carter, so as to interfere substantially with her liberty with the purpose of terrorizing her or another person..."

That OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE meant it wasn't necessarily ransom or reward, it also could have been to terrorize her or someone else. So, yes, this is new information. Anything assumed before Carl Jr.s speech was just that- an assumption, not information released. Most of us felt pretty confident that it was ransom, but it wasn't stated as such. And now that it is stated as such- I refuse to believe for one second that there was a plan to kidnap with the intent to receive ransom by a guy who is married and living with that wife and he acted alone, without her knowing about it or being part of the plan. This was not a spur of the moment decision. It was planned out and calls were made prior to the meeting. I dont think he planned to kidnap a rich broker for ransom, receive the ransom and be on his way before wifey gets home from clinicals. Oh, and she was arrested and charged with the same exact charges. There is always that. My opinion and take on things.
 
  • #112
http://www.katv.com/story/27488956/new-details-released-in-beverly-carter-murder-case

Felony information count two states: "The said defendant(s), in Pulaski County, on or about September 25, 2014, unlawfully, feloniously, without consent, did hold Beverly Carter for ransom or reward, so as to interfere substantially with her liberty, or in the alternative on or about September 25, 2014, unlawfully, feloniously, without consent did restrain Beverly Carter, so as to interfere substantially with her liberty with the purpose of terrorizing her or another person..."

From that article--- I really dont want to go back through all this, but we first thought it was ransom. Then, someone pointed out that it could have been a reward and there is also this part: or in the alternative on or about September 25, 2014, unlawfully, feloniously, without consent did restrain Beverly Carter, so as to interfere substantially with her liberty with the purpose of terrorizing her or another person..."

That OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE meant it wasn't necessarily ransom or reward, it also could have been to terrorize her or someone else. So, yes, this is new information. Anything assumed before Carl Jr.s speech was just that- an assumption, not information released. Most of us felt pretty confident that it was ransom, but it wasn't stated as such. And now that it is stated as such- I refuse to believe for one second that there was a plan to kidnap with the intent to receive ransom by a guy who is married and living with that wife and he acted alone, without her knowing about it or being part of the plan. This was not a spur of the moment decision. It was planned out and calls were made prior to the meeting. I dont think he planned to kidnap a rich broker for ransom, receive the ransom and be on his way before wifey gets home from clinicals. Oh, and she was arrested and charged with the same exact charges. There is always that. My opinion and take on things.

We all read and understand things differently. It is not news to me, because I never once believed he kidnapped her just to terrorize her or someone else. In my mind, it always had to be a money motive. Every crime AL has ever committed has been all about money.

It really doesn't matter one whit what we think but what the jury thinks. Since I have seen no evidence at this point showing CL's involvement, I will believe innocent until proven guilty. Once I have facts, I am sure my opinion could change. But again what we believe has no bearing on the case. The only thing we know for fact, is that AL admitted to kidnapping.

Nothing surprises me anymore. Especially knowing all that went on in the Heather Elvis case. Those two Moorer's were charged with murder and then released a year later on bond, when evidence the state said they had turned out not to be true.
 
  • #113
We all read and understand things differently. It is not news to me, because I never once believed he kidnapped her just to terrorize her or someone else. In my mind, it always had to be a money motive. Every crime AL has ever committed has been all about money.

It really doesn't matter one whit what we think but what the jury thinks. Since I have seen no evidence at this point showing CL's involvement, I will believe innocent until proven guilty. Once I have facts, I am sure my opinion could change. But again what we believe has no bearing on the case. The only thing we know for fact, is that AL admitted to kidnapping.

Nothing surprises me anymore. Especially knowing all that went on in the Heather Elvis case. Those two Moorer's were charged with murder and then released a year later on bond, when evidence the state said they had turned out not to be true.
FACTS AS we know them. Both have been charged with same crime. So they have evidence of some sort. Not charges to be just thrown around. JMO

Violations

LOWERY, CRYSTAL HOPE



Violation: 1 Citation#: Age at Violation: 41 Plea:
5-10-101 CAPITAL MURDER; FY Disp:
Level: FY CLASS Y FELONY
Violation Date: 25-SEP-14
Violation Time:

LOWERY, CRYSTAL HOPE


Violation: 2 Citation#: Age at Violation: 41 Plea:
5-11-102 KIDNAPPING; FY Disp:
Level: FY CLASS Y FELONY
Violation Date: 25-SEP-14
Violation Time:

LEWIS, AARON M


Violation: 1 Citation#: Age at Violation: 33 Plea:
5-10-101 CAPITAL MURDER; FY Disp:
Level: FY CLASS Y FELONY
Violation Date: 25-SEP-14
Violation Time:

LEWIS, AARON M


Violation: 2 Citation#: Age at Violation: 33 Plea:
5-11-102 KIDNAPPING; FY Disp:
Level: FY CLASS Y FELONY
Violation Date: 25-SEP-14
Violation Time:

LEWIS, AARON M
Violation: 3 Citation#: Age at Violation: 33 Plea:
5-73-103 POSSESS FIREARMS BY CERTAIN PERSONS; FB Disp:
Level: FB CLASS B FELONY
Violation Date: 28-SEP-14
Violation Time:
https://caseinfo.aoc.arkansas.gov/c...=P&case_id=60CR-14-3928&begin_date=&end_date=
 
  • #114
We all read and understand things differently. It is not news to me, because I never once believed he kidnapped her just to terrorize her or someone else. In my mind, it always had to be a money motive. Every crime AL has ever committed has been all about money.
It really doesn't matter one whit what we think but what the jury thinks. Since I have seen no evidence at this point showing CL's involvement, I will believe innocent until proven guilty. Once I have facts, I am sure my opinion could change. But again what we believe has no bearing on the case. The only thing we know for fact, is that AL admitted to kidnapping.

Nothing surprises me anymore. Especially knowing all that went on in the Heather Elvis case. Those two Moorer's were charged with murder and then released a year later on bond, when evidence the state said they had turned out not to be true.

Do you have a link for that, where all his convictions were about money. TIA
 
  • #115
Do you have a link for that, where all his convictions were about money. TIA

No I do not but all that I have read have been about money. No drug charges. No rapes or abuse charges. Stealing things and selling them. He even said in his TV interview after he arrest that many people probably found charges on their debit and credit cards where he stole from them. I am sure with your lists and printouts you keep that you can pull up his convictions. He also was going to rob a bank. Stole various cars and motorcycles. He wanted to live a life that he couldn't afford with other people's money.
 
  • #116
FACTS AS we know them. Both have been charged with same crime. So they have evidence of some sort. Not charges to be just thrown around. JMO

Violations

LOWERY, CRYSTAL HOPE



Violation: 1 Citation#: Age at Violation: 41 Plea:
5-10-101 CAPITAL MURDER; FY Disp:
Level: FY CLASS Y FELONY
Violation Date: 25-SEP-14
Violation Time:

LOWERY, CRYSTAL HOPE


Violation: 2 Citation#: Age at Violation: 41 Plea:
5-11-102 KIDNAPPING; FY Disp:
Level: FY CLASS Y FELONY
Violation Date: 25-SEP-14
Violation Time:

LEWIS, AARON M


Violation: 1 Citation#: Age at Violation: 33 Plea:
5-10-101 CAPITAL MURDER; FY Disp:
Level: FY CLASS Y FELONY
Violation Date: 25-SEP-14
Violation Time:

LEWIS, AARON M


Violation: 2 Citation#: Age at Violation: 33 Plea:
5-11-102 KIDNAPPING; FY Disp:
Level: FY CLASS Y FELONY
Violation Date: 25-SEP-14
Violation Time:

LEWIS, AARON M
Violation: 3 Citation#: Age at Violation: 33 Plea:
5-73-103 POSSESS FIREARMS BY CERTAIN PERSONS; FB Disp:
Level: FB CLASS B FELONY
Violation Date: 28-SEP-14
Violation Time:
https://caseinfo.aoc.arkansas.gov/c...=P&case_id=60CR-14-3928&begin_date=&end_date=


I am very aware of what CL's charges are, and as I said, I am very aware that none of us has seen a shred of evidence of her involvement. You are entitled to your belief and I am entitled to mine. LE arresting and charging her means nothing to me.

Tammy and Sidney Moorer we held in jail for a full year with LE and prosecution stating there was hard evidence, now we find out that wasn't true. And there was a whole lot of stuff that made TM look guilty. I mean she made threats to HE.

Have you seen any evidence linking CL? Maybe I missed something but to my knowledge there hasn't been anything. If you have a link please share.
 
  • #117
We don't know the evidence, but evidently the investigators do.

http://www.katv.com/story/27168627/...ing-charged-in-connection-with-realtors-death
Lowery was first interviewed on September 29,*the day her husband was arrested. Investigators tell Channel 7 News that it was evidence collected - not anything Lewis said - that led them to arrest and charge Lowery.

When asked what kind of role authorities believe Lowery played in Carter's death, PCSO spokesman Lt. Carl Minden said the fact she was charged with the same capital murder and kidnapping chargers as her husband is evidence that authorities believe both parties to be equally involved.
 
  • #118
I was thinking about this case tonight since it wont be long before it starts now. If you have kids in school or activities you don't always know the parents but you know they are so in so's mother. I think its possible that at whatever point CL becomes involved, BC may have recognized her, even tho she may never even have talked to her. Then, they had no choice but to kill her. jmo.
 
  • #119
I was thinking about this case tonight since it wont be long before it starts now. If you have kids in school or activities you don't always know the parents but you know they are so in so's mother. I think its possible that at whatever point CL becomes involved, BC may have recognized her, even tho she may never even have talked to her. Then, they had no choice but to kill her. jmo.



I don't think AL intentionally killed her. I think he put the duct tape over her mouth, tied her up in the woods and left her. Im sure she was crying so hard it stopped up her nose and when he went back to check on her, she had suffocated.

I remember the discussion about AL getting stuck in the mud. But I don't remember if we all think that he was making
plans for a place to take her or if that's JMO. But that area was fairly close to where he lived and it seams like a convenient place.
 
  • #120
I have enjoyed reading the threads that pertain to Beverly, for several months now. I joined the Website specifically for this case. I own a business related to the real.estate industry. I have countless friends that could have and still could find themselves in the same situation as beautiful Beverly. This story hits too close to home.

The insight posed here is amazing. With the exception of a post that appears to have been removed yesterday (thank goodness), you have all respectfully allowed each other to do what everyone here should do, and that is sleuth. The lack of details in the case leave the opportunity for a great deal of sleuthing.

It is JMHO that it seems unreasonable to believe a wife would return from clinicals, to find her newly bald, scratched up (whether it happened that day or the day prior) husband calmly playing video games. Also, when considering the cat fight episode, CL is clearly not a passive, "look the other way" kind of wife. It's not like they lived in a mansion, and I could be wrong, but doubt AL was in charge of the laundry. It does not make sense that CL overlooked the cell phone of another woman. From the beginning it didn't smell right that AL orchestrated this alone. And that 3rd car (the silver one).......

All of the details (sadly for the lovely family of Beverly) will come out soon. One can't fathom the torture the family will go through, with AL representing himself. Even though they possess more grace than any other family would in this situation, the arrogance of AL, and the awful story it appears he intends to tell will surely test their endurance.

With regard to how and when Beverly died, I think you all have been right on. I have gone back and forth with the suffocation theory, the initial use of a bat as a quiet method to immobilize her and not turning out as planned, torturing her on video for her family and coming to the realization they did not have the ability to pay the likely unreasonable ransom, and then the recognition of CL. All would be awful scenarios, and all are a possibility.

Until a few months ago, we had no clue our son was a mouth breather, because he had 100% blockage of his nasal passages. If his mouth had ever been covered, he would not have survived. Combined with panic (hyperventilating) and being congested from crying/being in the trunk of a car, poor Beverly very well could have suffocated. AL and CL, being cruel (as they clearly seem to be) wouldn't want to walk away from their plan with nothing. They possibly pretended Beverly was still alive, and continued with pursuing a ransom. Hence hanging onto the cell phone.

On SM, the mother of AL posted that a person without God will be buried alive. I hope there is no correlation there, since he has expressed his disgust with the obsession his mother has with God. That is one scenario I have tried to push out of my mind.

In the end, the Carter family deserves peace, and justice for this tragedy. Very few families would be able to ever find peace after this. They are extraordinary. Hopefully this freak show of a trial (as I foresee it will be) will move swiftly, so they can begin to seek closure, and focus only on the beautiful life Beverly lived, and not the way it was so unnecessarily robbed from her.

There will be no winners in the circle involved in this. It doesn't appear that AL has a person in the world that cares what happens to him (a fate he created for himself), so hopefully he will just deteriorate all by himself. CL leaves behind three children to deal with her poor choices. They will find it hard to understand that they will be much better without her influence, but they will. Admirably, the Carter family will continue to honor the life of their Beverly, by helping raise safety awareness for other agents out there trying to earn a living.

When one looks at the polar opposite way that Beverly lived her life, in comparison to the two that took it from her, it is understandable why Beverly has so many good people (family, friends, and strangers) supporting her. The other two, well, other than a few innocent children, no decent people really care what happens, as long as they just go away.
 
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