GUILTY AR - Beverly Carter, 49, Little Rock, 25 Sep 2014 - # 6

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  • #261
She was informally questioned by LE at the hospital. LE also asked her for her phone at the hospital which she gave to them. I read somewhere that someone said that the police took her phone from her that Monday when she was arrested....but they actually took it from her that Sun. am at the hospital.

After CLs first arrest while the daughter was waiting to be picked up by family...LE took the daughters phone and had it for 3-4 hours. They gave it back to her when she was picked up by family.
I am not trying to be snarky just getting thoughts straight. Butler you are getting most of your info from CL ex husband, who is a family member right? So most of his info all came from CL as well. Correct? I figure he may have gotten a bit of info from LE but I am sure their lips are sealed to everyone?
 
  • #262
Butler it's very stressful on everyone right now. I'm sure you are under tremendous stress. I see no reason for any of us on this board to go at each other. Hopefully, all of us are here for the truth and to see justice served for the victim, Beverly Carter and her family. You don't have to agree with someone to like them or be cordial to them. Appreciating that all of us may have differences of opinions does not mean you are giving up your own convictions.

I think it shows class to accept that others have feelings too and that those feelings may not reflect our own. I'm not saying this directly to you Butler but to everyone on this board. I have always said that if CL is guilty I will be the first to say she deserves to be punished. I knew BC too and this has sent chills down my spine thinking about what she may have gone through the last few hours of her life. My heart breaks for her family. Today is their first Thanksgiving without her.

Instead of everyone going at each other over differences of opinions why don't we all stop and say a prayer for the victim and her family and for all of those who may be hurting due to this situation.

Let's all agree to disagree in a way that is not distrustful or hurtful to others on this board. Nobody else here is accused of a crime, only CL and AL. There is no reason for us to be suspicious of others here or their intentions until they prove us wrong. Not agreeing with someone does not make them the enemy.

Happy Thanksgiving to all of you. May each of you enjoy your day with family and remember how blessed we all are to live in a free country.
Excellent post.
 
  • #263
Some friends have recently told me that this was not the only evidence of this type of behavior in response to AL's cheating. Apparently there are local women who had similar experiences on a face to face basis with AL and CL. Something I never knew about until I was told a few days ago. Have been unable to confirm it as fact so for now it's just another rumor. I'm going to try to check it out this week.
Too bad since he thought he was hot stuff that he just didn't find a sugar mama to support him. The actions of AL have had a huge domino affect.
 
  • #264
I am not trying to be snarky just getting thoughts straight. Butler you are getting most of your info from CL ex husband, who is a family member right? So most of his info all came from CL as well. Correct? I figure he may have gotten a bit of info from LE but I am sure their lips are sealed to everyone?

He has received some info from LE... But very little.
 
  • #265
He has received some info from LE... But very little.

My heart breaks for HL. I am 46 and extremely close to my mom. We have always been best friends. I just can't imagine at her young age how devastating this must be. I am glad she has a strong support system.
 
  • #266
My heart breaks for HL. I am 46 and extremely close to my mom. We have always been best friends. I just can't imagine at her young age how devastating this must be. I am glad she has a strong support system.

I lost my mom when I was 16. Though CL has not died, the potential to be separated from her mother for the rest of her life would be devastating for HL. I know from personal experience how desperately young girls need their mothers. CL does not sound like a terribly sound or healthy parent, but through those layers one imagines there is much love there.
 
  • #267
I lost my mom when I was 16. Though CL has not died, the potential to be separated from her mother for the rest of her life would be devastating for HL. I know from personal experience how desperately young girls need their mothers. CL does not sound like a terribly sound or healthy parent, but through those layers one imagines there is much love there.

When CL still had her FB up she posted how terribly she missed her daughter. I think at that time she said they had been apart 4 days.
 
  • #268
When CL still had her FB up she posted how terribly she missed her daughter. I think at that time she said they had been apart 4 days.


There is no doubt she loves her daughter and her daughter loves her. They are very close. My heart breaks for the daughter.
 
  • #269
Wondering what strong evidence they have on CL when they charged her also with capital murder and kidnapping...poor BC...I just feel so sorry for what she went through...
 
  • #270
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
Thoughts and prayers for the Carter family and all others grieving today.
 
  • #271
Wondering what strong evidence they have on CL when they charged her also with capital murder and kidnapping...poor BC...I just feel so sorry for what she went through...

I think Monday they both appear in court. Probably the media will glean some more info.
 
  • #272
Obviously CL is smart. Nursing school is hard. I get the impression from things I read that she hasn't emotionally matured. If seems to me she is stuck somewhere acting like a teen. I think that plays a role in her horrible decision making and bad judgement. She seems very immature to me. Its actually crossed my mind that she could be borderline BP. Acting on impulse and taking her daughter without telling the father along with her constant bad decision making makes me wonder. jmo
 
  • #273
Obviously violent crimes never make rational sense to normal people .... But I just don't get it. These two are definitely not brilliant criminal master minds... But one would think that a kidnapping for ransom would require some planning and for thought. What little is known about this crime just sounds so spontaneous and sloppy. What kind of criminal doesn't know that iPhones are traceable? There's a freaking app called "find my iPhone!!"


Obviously there's never any justifiable excuse for a violent crime... But if they were drug addicts or owed money to the mob I could at least wrap my head around that.... But this I just don't get.

There's just so many things we don't know... So many questions...
 
  • #274
Obviously violent crimes never make rational sense to normal people .... But I just don't get it. These two are definitely not brilliant criminal master minds... But one would think that a kidnapping for ransom would require some planning and for thought. What little is known about this crime just sounds so spontaneous and sloppy. What kind of criminal doesn't know that iPhones are traceable? There's a freaking app called "find my iPhone!!"


Obviously there's never any justifiable excuse for a violent crime... But if they were drug addicts or owed money to the mob I could at least wrap my head around that.... But this I just don't get.

There's just so many things we don't know... So many questions...



I keep saying this same thing. There are so many unanswered questions and this crime does not make sense. From what little I know of AL I believe it was a money scam. I can't for the life of me figure out any reason that CL would participate?

All smart phones have GPS and are trackable. Taking the phone to the house never made sense to me. I know, if she was being honest with me, it never made sense to CL. She said she had no idea it was at the house.

I wish I had asked her if she knew he had guns there? I never asked that question. I do not believe CL or AL used drugs. I don't think drugs are an issue here. Whatever happened cannot be blamed on drugs.

I think it was another of AL's scams for fast cash gone wrong. I am waiting on the evidence to see what part, if any, I will ever believe CL had in this.
 
  • #275
Obviously violent crimes never make rational sense to normal people .... But I just don't get it. These two are definitely not brilliant criminal master minds... But one would think that a kidnapping for ransom would require some planning and for thought. What little is known about this crime just sounds so spontaneous and sloppy. What kind of criminal doesn't know that iPhones are traceable? There's a freaking app called "find my iPhone!!"


Obviously there's never any justifiable excuse for a violent crime... But if they were drug addicts or owed money to the mob I could at least wrap my head around that.... But this I just don't get.

There's just so many things we don't know... So many questions...
 
  • #276
I keep saying this same thing. There are so many unanswered questions and this crime does not make sense. From what little I know of AL I believe it was a money scam. I can't for the life of me figure out any reason that CL would participate?

Snipped by me. Answer: Manipulation.
 
  • #277
Obviously violent crimes never make rational sense to normal people .... But I just don't get it. These two are definitely not brilliant criminal master minds... But one would think that a kidnapping for ransom would require some planning and for thought. What little is known about this crime just sounds so spontaneous and sloppy. What kind of criminal doesn't know that iPhones are traceable? There's a freaking app called "find my iPhone!!"

Obviously there's never any justifiable excuse for a violent crime... But if they were drug addicts or owed money to the mob I could at least wrap my head around that.... But this I just don't get.

There's just so many things we don't know... So many questions...


I agree. I counsel children everyday who have parents with the same obvious mindset as CL/AL. Most have not gone over to the dark side of violent crime (although I counsel some who have) but the lack of desire to parent appropriately and the wish to have their own desires fulfilled at the expense of their kids parrots the behaviors of these alleged perps. From what I've read about CL, her life has been focused on keeping a man no matter how that impacted her kids. And AL has a child whom he will probably never really know and a child who will most likely (according to research) grow up with his own set of problems stemming from AL's depravity. So many adults are making selfish choices that are doing irreparable damage to their children, yet all they can think about is that everything they do wrong is someone else's fault.

I am glad that CL's children have stability now. That is so important. I am glad that Beverly's family has their family's love, support, and faith to sustain them for the days ahead.
 
  • #278
It doesn't seem right to come here and claim to talk to the family and say that the cheer place has no connection without something to back that up. So then, what is the connection? I'm not saying you are lying or anything, but you could be the cheer place owner trying to look better. I can't tell you about something someone sleuthed regarding the landlord for CL because that's off limits. Why would the family only share that one piece of information with you?

Well, I'm not the cheer owner and that wasn't all of the discussion I had with the certain family member. And if you don't wanna believe me, I am totally more than cool with that because it will show to be true in the coming weeks and months. The talks I've had with a couple of family members and other very close-knit friends don't all get shared here. Not at all. But the "cheer thing" has kept coming up, and I didn't want all you sleuthers to waste your time. However, if you'd like to do that, I can't stop you! :-)
 
  • #279
Well, I'm not the cheer owner and that wasn't all of the discussion I had with the certain family member. And if you don't wanna believe me, I am totally more than cool with that because it will show to be true in the coming weeks and months. The talks I've had with a couple of family members and other very close-knit friends don't all get shared here. Not at all. But the "cheer thing" has kept coming up, and I didn't want all you sleuthers to waste your time. However, if you'd like to do that, I can't stop you! :-)

LOL! I know none of this is funny, but that gave me a giggle. I'm a bit tired of all the cheer gym chatter myself, and I live nowhere near this crime.
 
  • #280
I was leaning toward 3 people because of the 3 vehicle rumor. With what info has come out I think this may be all.Despite all his bragging obviously AL isn't the mastermind criminal he thinks he is or he wouldn't be a 7 time felon. Like everyone says-this was a very sloppy job and not alot of planning and backup plans. The iphone at the house tells me there is a trail of forensic evidence left behind. I cant wait to see what it is. I would bet money right now that there are fingerprints on the duct tape. jmo
 
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