GUILTY AR - Beverly Carter, 49, Little Rock, 25 Sep 2014 - # 6

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  • #341
Not that dumb. LE told her from the start they were watching her and were going to get her.

Then why would they state emphatically at the presser that he acted alone and they were not looking at anyone else? I can see lying to the public to keep a suspect off-guard but that's about it.
 
  • #342
http://www.katv.com/story/27168627/...ing-charged-in-connection-with-realtors-death
Lowery was first interviewed on September 29, the day her husband was arrested. Investigators tell Channel 7 News that it was evidence collected - not anything Lewis said - that led them to arrest and charge Lowery.

AL was arrested on Monday. So CL could have helped him escape the hospital.

So this evidence was probably something that came back from the lab since her arrest was a month later.
 
  • #343
You know, I think the drug issue would be more important in a custody suit. Even if they did drugs and was higher than a kite its not gonna be an excuse to get away with murder. I think greed is the motivating factor here and it would have happened drugs or no drugs.

You're Absolutely Right.
I'm just always tying to make sense of things. I know better.
 
  • #344
CL posted items on several yard sale sites -- Conway Swap was one of them..

I saw some on Cabot garage sales and on another one.. I'm thinking lonoke county garage sales.
 
  • #345
Then why would they state emphatically at the presser that he acted alone and they were not looking at anyone else? I can see lying to the public to keep a suspect off-guard but that's about it.

Because they have their suspects. They knew where she (or they) was.
 
  • #346
This is probably been talked about, but was thinking about this... If AL met Beverly at the hours at 5:30, could CL have come also?? Weren't her clinicals at 7:30 or so? Could she have made it to clinicals to show face then leave again? Sorry just took some Ambien, so it's nite nite for me in about 15 more min.. :)
 
  • #347
NJ Did CL go back to school after AL was arrested? No reason pertaining to the case for asking. I just dont know what Id do and if Id be able to.

No she did not.
 
  • #348
Can someone find the court documents filed by the ex? (Im not good at finding that stuff.)He alleged that AL was a meth user. But I dont know if it is a proven fact.

I believe Butler can shed some light on this. The story I heard was that the Aunt (sister to CL ex) told CL's ex that when she picked up the daughter from LE that Sunday of the wreck when CL was being questioned that the daughter told her (the aunt) AL used drugs (meth). When the daughter took the stand (during custody hearing) she said she never told anyone AL used meth. The daughter testified that she did not believe AL was a drug user. I heard this from both CL and the daughter. The daughter was upset over it. I will state again that I do not believe drugs played any part in this.
 
  • #349
After they filed the formal charges the news article said both are due in court Monday. He was supposed to go in Dec and her in Jan. Does this mean they will be tried together? And if they are tried together will one defender represent both of them or will they each have one?

I bet the attorneys will ask for them to not be tried together.
 
  • #350
Then why would they state emphatically at the presser that he acted alone and they were not looking at anyone else? I can see lying to the public to keep a suspect off-guard but that's about it.

I can't answer that but they did tell her from the start that they thought she was involved and were watching her. She told me this out of her own mouth. Why would she lie about something like that?
 
  • #351
Maybe? Or they just didn't want to blow their case?

I don't know how that just posted. I fell asleep with phone in hand last night reading this case.
The above was theorizing why LE said they weren't looking for any more suspects.
 
  • #352
I wondered about IP addresses.

I'm still guessing phone pings or using GPS information from the smart phone. We know Beverly had an IPhone. I know CL had a smart phone. I assume that AL had a smart phone too. Smart phones use GPS tracking. That is why I suspect that LE knows CL was at class on the night of the kidnapping. They would be able to track the GPS on the phone. They would also know everywhere AL and BC phone went too using pings or GPS. I'm guessing everywhere BC phone went that night so did AL's phone.
 
  • #353
This is probably been talked about, but was thinking about this... If AL met Beverly at the hours at 5:30, could CL have come also?? Weren't her clinicals at 7:30 or so? Could she have made it to clinicals to show face then leave again? Sorry just took some Ambien, so it's nite nite for me in about 15 more min.. :)

4:30 pm to 10:30 pm. was time of clinicals. It's my understanding that you do them as a group and each member has to participate. I don't think you could come and go like that? I think AL planned this when he knew CL would be gone for several hours thinking she would not find out what he had done. JMO
 
  • #354
I'm still guessing phone pings or using GPS information from the smart phone. We know Beverly had an IPhone. I know CL had a smart phone. I assume that AL had a smart phone too. Smart phones use GPS tracking. That is why I suspect that LE knows CL was at class on the night of the kidnapping. They would be able to track the GPS on the phone. They would also know everywhere AL and BC phone went too using pings or GPS. I'm guessing everywhere BC phone went that night so did AL's phone.
I think this is true also because they found BC phone Sunday night (?) and had AL phone after his arrest on Monday. AL didn't give LE BC location. LE probably started digging through both phones and that's how Beverly's body was found. That info was released by LE.
 
  • #355
That's the first time I've heard that. So is that why she wanted your help with a timeline? I did not know LE suspected her from the beginning.. Until they said it on MSM. I know I didn't suspect her, but I felt for sure he had an accomplice and I still suspect another male. But my hinky meter went up a few notches after the halloween pics.
Anyway... LE told her they were going to get her?

I didn't know that either as LE told the public they had their one and only culprit. But wow, the Halloween pics that were posted by CL is even more crazy if she was told they were coming after her too. I know LE will say things that are untrue during a case. They had interviewed her about the case when she was charged with theft by receiving. And when AL did the perp walk or sometime around that time they said they had their man. Then a month later CL has exact charges.
 
  • #356
I didn't know that either as LE told the public they had their one and only culprit. But wow, the Halloween pics that were posted by CL is even more crazy if she was told they were coming after her too. I know LE will say things that are untrue during a case. They had interviewed her about the case when she was charged with theft by receiving. And when AL did the perp walk or sometime around that time they said they had their man. Then a month later CL has exact charges.

I figured LE said that just to confuse CL, thinking her actions might get sloppy and she would do something to implicate herself further. At that time LE only had their suspicions if the forensics had not come back from the lab.
 
  • #357
I think LE made the statement about not seeking further suspects so she wouldn't run while they continued investigating her. Also... If she was in on it from the beginning vs finding out about it sometime after Thursday evening she could have encouraged AL to kidnap BC while she was at clinicals thus establishing a solid alibi for herself.... That's what a smart criminal would do.
 
  • #358
The story about the private reporting of ALs meth use sounds to me like perhaps CLs dtr was more comfortable telling an aunt she knew in person, privately, about his drug use --but when put on the stand with LE, strangers and a court reporter in the room... got scared - like it may have been something she had been warned against ever revealing or squealing on him...Being young and suddenly thrust into this very terrifying situation all around, not knowing if some other accomplice might be still on the loose who was involved.... Just an instinctual response. Because otherwise, why would a kid make something like that up to a relative ? There are more reasons you can find to lie about AL not using than there are reasons to lie about him using. Just the way it hit me when reading that. It makes a difference on ALs choices throughout- meth or no meth.
 
  • #359
I don't know the cost of meth, but I wouldn't think either CL or AL could afford it or any other drug. Both were not employed. I really don't know how they could have even been paying rent or had money for gas and cell phones.
It did alarm me CL was drug tested in 2009 in the custody case. 2009 was LONG before AL came into the picture.
 
  • #360
I think LE made the statement about not seeking further suspects so she wouldn't run while they continued investigating her. Also... If she was in on it from the beginning vs finding out about it sometime after Thursday evening she could have encouraged AL to kidnap BC while she was at clinicals thus establishing a solid alibi for herself.... That's what a smart criminal would do.

One thing I'm having trouble piecing together on the theories that have CL as either the instigator or in on it since the beginning... is that she had lived over 40 years without (at least getting caught for) committing any crimes thus far. She was embarking on a new nursing career. Had a teenage daughter she apparently loved. Had very bad judgement especially in men. But when you put her historical timeline against ALs with a lifetime of crime, it doesn't seem to add up that CL would suddenly be the one plotting a kidnapping or murder and bringing AL into the mix. Just by observing a lifetime of patterns of the behaviors of each. CL jumping into such major crime at this stage of her life, even with serious money problems, doesn't feel logical to me when you have ALs track record sitting there.

I can imagine him drawing her into it, and my thinking is that would more likely be later when he had to, rather than at the first stage. But can't see great odds of her as the mastermind or instigator of this scheme. UNLESS... the need for instant cash was such a dire emergency and had some bearing on her ability to keep her daughter - if the only way were to prove to a court that she had the means to support or some such thing. All just speculation of course! But I'm leaning towards AL either willingly or inadvertently having to bring her in after the first blunder in the plans.
 
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