GUILTY AR - Beverly Carter, 49, Little Rock, 25 Sep 2014 - # 9

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  • #461
I think she was referencing something that was in the emergency custody order paperwork which was linked somewhere upthread? Just a guess. That's what I understood it to mean.

edit to correct: Can't remember for sure. Maybe a public record that was just discussed? Might not have actually been linked or if it was linked, it didn't stay up long? Just remember I saw it at some point.
 
  • #462
I think she was referencing something that was in the emergency custody order paperwork which was linked somewhere upthread? Just a guess. That's what I understood it to mean.

My custody order was sealed. I am angry it leaked. It is not relevant to to CL charges.
 
  • #463
SO at perp walk IT WAS BEVERLY CARTER they showed him... (jmho)

LITTLE ROCK, AR - Around 5:30 a.m., Pulaski County Sheriff Doc Holladay spoke about the finding of Beverly Carter's body and the charges Arron
Lewis faces.

Hollday said investigators continued to search for Carter after Lewis was placed in jail. Her body was discovered Tuesday morning after midnight. Holladay said more details will be released at the 2 p.m. press conference on Tuesday.

After 6 a.m., Lewis was walked to a vehicle to be transported to the Pulaski Co. Jail.

Lewis said he did not kill Carter.

Our reporter, Shannon Miller asked Lewis, "Why Beverly?"

Lewis responded, "Because she was a woman that worked alone--a rich broker."

When asked what he would say to the family, he said sorry.
http://www.arkansasmatters.com/stor...is-a-rich-broker/32910/ce3aj_IL_kKmTkC_mHjgTw


Yes, I think it's pretty clear that he was claiming to have no knowledge of Beverly's location during the interrogation. The way he tried to talk about a "co -defendant" (He which shall not be named) causes me to believe that he MIGHT have fessed up to having a tiny role in her actual kidnapping....maybe....but was at that point claiming no knowledge of what said co-defendant had actually done with her. Maybe that's why police were asking people to search empty structures?

Then after they found the body, I believe they showed him pictures taken at the concrete plant trying to get him to "break" and he still claimed no knowledge and tried to blame it all on he which shall not be named.

And if that guy is really not involved, then the next question is was he throwing his name out there trying to take the heat off of CL?
 
  • #464
My custody order was sealed. I am angry it leaked. It is not relevant to to CL charges.

I'm actually not sure who it was dug up or where it came from....and maybe I'm remembering it incorrectly.....but I'm almost positive that it was linked in one of the earlier threads. I'm pretty sure it was in all that CL drug test/did she pass/did she not discussion. Anyone else remember? My memory is crap these days. So don't get too angry until we find it, because it's possible I am remembering it ALL wrong.
 
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  • #466
Notice what reporter Hillary Hunt states about what deputies said "investigative tips"

That could be a number of things, I guess. Phone pings? Something they discovered in the stolen dump truck? But it does state that AL gave them no help in finding the location of her body, which is not surprising since he was obviously playing dumb. Which, by the way, if he is to be believed in his own tv interview was a lie because in that he claimed that she died at the location she was buried.

Again, like someone here said a long time ago: AL is a lying liar that lies.
 
  • #467
Maybe I am confused, but when did I say she was arrested for an affidavit in another case? I knew she was arrested for theft by receiving and again a month later for her current charges.

It is was being discussed when I first came to WS, by the VI#1. It shows up in public records. I am not speaking of that case. Only that 3 VIs have stated she was arrested that date and the court docket states 10/9 arrest warrant served. I will edit my post but that was my only reason. We have to have links.. this was talked about extensively in early threads.

VI#1 is who stated she wasn't going to tell what CL had that was in the TBR but that exhusb had it listed. VI #2 spoke about it also. ALso its in news media reports. Just so you don't think I leaked it or bringing forth something new.
 
  • #468
Speaking to a reporter from KARK-TV this week from jail, Mr Lewis, clad in all white and sitting behind a glass divider, stated: 'I didn't murder her, and anything that did occur was an accident.

'I never denied her going with me, [but] as far as kidnapping, I've never kidnapped anybody.'

Asked about his meeting with Mrs Carter on the day of her disappearance September 25, Lewis said it had nothing to do with her showing the house.

The 33-year-old reiterated that he did not put Beverly Carter in his car by force.

'I mean, somebody goes with your of their own free will, they're not being kidnapped,' he told the reporter.

Reading between the lines. What exactly is Lewis trying to admit to?
 
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I wonder what they had discovered or had in evidence that made them think she might still be alive? Do you think it is something AL said during the interrogation or do you think it was text messages or some other message or evidence they had? Like maybe a ransom demand? They had already charged him with kidnapping, before the discovery of her body...correct?

The way they asked for people to go look in sheds, etc makes me think he either wasn't saying anything or that he was playing stupid and acting like he had no idea.

Would he confess to kidnapping her and then claim he didn't know where she was located? Or was he just mute about the whole thing, although knowing what I know about him now, I don't beleive the word "mute" is anywhere in his vocabulary.....so this theory doubtful. He loves to run his mouth.

BBM I don't think it was that LE had something that made them believe she was still alive but more along the lines of LE didn't have anything that confirmed that she was dead. KWIM? Most LE will always state that they are actively seeking an alive person until they have direct evidence that supports a missing person is no longer living.
 
  • #471
My custody order was sealed. I am angry it leaked. It is not relevant to to CL charges.

11-01-2014, 08:21 PM
CL
CL is a good person and mother. She, like many single mothers, end up with the wrong men who trick them into thinking they are going to take care of them and pay their bills. They fall prey to a carrot dangled in front of them of a better lifestyle for them and their children. She is not perfect but nowhere close to a killer or kidnapper.

I also knew BC and she was a wonderful lady. I hate this for both families and my heart is broken. BC did not deserve what happened and neither did her family. It is tragic for all involved.

CL does NOT do drugs. She has passed drug screens both for nursing school and jobs and recently passed on during custody case. She was at nursing school the night of the kidnapping.

She and AL were split up when this happened but he refused to move out. He had moved out briefly back in the summer and moved in with TM but she had recently let him back in the house when he became gainfully employed and tricked her again with false promises of support while she was in nursing school.

CL was not friends with TM. AL was the one that was friends with TM.

The recent custody fight is a long going issue with her and her ex, like so many cases we see with divorce involving children. The ex is actually years behind on child support so has a reason for wanting to get custody. You can verify this at pulaski county clerk website and see for yourself the recent wage garnishment shortly that was filed shortly before BC was murdered. I do not for one minute believe TL thinks CL does drugs or is a prostitute. He used that in a moment of weakness to gain an advantage in the custody battle. The ex was called by AL after CL kicked him out. AL tried to extort money out of the ex to the tune of $5000.00 for information that CL was a prostitute. This happened in Jan 2014. A sensible person would wonder why the ex waited so long to file again for custody if he believed any of the drug or prostitute lies? Could it be because CL had a new wage assignment sent to his job in Sept 2014 shortly before his Oct 2014 filing for custody? Her daughter was being returned to her by the court but then she was arrested.

AL gave all of CL's friends the creepers. None of us wanted to be around him. None of us wanted her with him. ALL of us tried to warn her. None of us allowed our kids around him.

Her Halloween Haunted House post on FB was in bad taste. I think we can all agree on that one. I personally think it was another bad choice from someone who was confused and going through post traumatic stress from all that has been going on. Bad taste does not make one a killer.

She was arrested for theft by receiving on the Monday before the body was found on Tuesday. I will not post what was the object of the theft by receiving so as not to jeopardize anything to do with the investigation. If you read the custody paperwork you will find the answer to this question. What her ex says in the custody paperwork is true on that subject. She had nothing to do BC disappearance or what they found in her house. What they found had to have been put there by AL. She had no idea it was there. I believe it led LE to him. The house was leased to CL not AL and she was living there before he moved in with her. She just married him in the Spring. the theft charge was a way for the police to question her. They told her that. She was told by police that the charge would be dropped and she did cooperate with them. It is a mystery why they charged her. We all believe it is to put pressure on her because she did not give them the answers they want. We do not believe she has those answers but the police for some reason think she knows something. She will not fare well in jail. She does not belong there.

She has never had any charges at any other time in her life. All the reports of her having a record are absolutely untrue. She is a mild mannered person.

Every part of me, and of all her other real friends, tell us this is not true about her. I was around her after the murder and she was just as surprised and shocked as the rest of us when things would come out in the news. There was a lot of information about AL that she never knew.

She did not know he was a 7 time convicted felon when they married. She did however know he had been in some past trouble for some sort of scam on a company but he told her he had changed. She had no idea of his long criminal past. I realize it was posted on FB but apparently she was blinded by love and failed to do her research. Call her dumb if you will but being dumb does not make one a killer.

AL and CL had a very bad relationship. What the neighbors reported about them fighting is very true. He was not physically abusive but was mentally. Her daughter did not like him and he did not like her. He was very childish and would lie on the daughter to try to come between CL and her daughter. It was not a good situation and CL should have woke up sooner about him.

The black eye was a fluke accident that happened a few weeks ago long after AL was in jail and BC had been buried. It has nothing to do with any of this.

CL only crime is looking for love in all the wrong places and being stupid enough to post things in bad taste on her FB page. I believe AL took advantage of her. I do not believe she would harm anyone or participate freely with knowledge in any of this.

What I do not like seeing is the lynch mob mentality I see posted by some. Remember she is innocent until proven guilty and in this country people still have a right to a fair trial. We do not hang people in the town square. I know it's easy to sit back assume that LE does not charge innocent people. Don't assume anything. How many people have spent years on death row to be later found innocent. Nothing is proven yet. This needs to take it's course.

Her FB page had to be closed because her kids could read all the posts that were being posted. Some of them were horrible. Nobody's family deserves to see that, especially kids who love their mom. I think the realtors I saw posting on her FB page the night she was arrested should be ashamed of themselves. It did not reflect well on them as professionals and I do not believe the Carter family would have approved. They have certainly acted classy throughout this entire ordeal they have had to go through with their wife and mother being taken and senselessly murdered.

Everyone deserves a fair trial in this country. It's what this country was founded on. I do believe in justice for BC. I also believe in justice for CL and even for AL. What this country needs is more love and prayers for our fellow neighbors not bashing and judgmental behavior.

The truth will come out in the end and it will be up to a jury of their peers to decide their fate. In the meantime, I will never believe CL had anything to do with this until I see the evidence.

There are a lot of rumors going around about BC but I would not post them here out of respect for her and her family. I think her co-workers are wrong for the talk I've been hearing around town, if in fact they are the ones running their mouths. Most of the rumors I've heard have reportedly coming from them. Someone correct me on this if I have been misinformed. I do know I witnessed some of them posting on CL FB page myself. It was shameful and in bad taste.

I welcome your opinion but I ask that you think about her children when you start bashing and that she may be innocent. Everyone has family that loves them. Nobody deserves to read things like I've seen here about their mother. Regardless of the outcome she will never be able to recover from this. Her name will permanently be connected to this tragedy.

There are a lot of victims in this case. I do not believe AL is one of them, although I'm not 100% sure he is the killer.

If CL had anything to do with this I will be shocked and will come here and admit I was wrong.

BBM Link http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ing-realtor-4-ARREST!&p=11157576#post11157576
 
  • #472
Thank you for posting that. I just re-read that post and several others that also brought up (inaccurate) information regarding CL's custody/child support case.

You are absolutely correct, TKL123, it has absolutely NOTHING to do with what CL is charged with.
 
  • #473
Thank you for posting that. I just re-read that post and several others that also brought up (inaccurate) information regarding CL's custody/child support case.

You are absolutely correct, TKL123, it has absolutely NOTHING to do with what CL is charged with.

I think where it is related is that there are thoughts that money or drugs have something or everything to do with why Beverly was kidnapped/ killed and why Crystal would have been involved. I saw the document myself and I don't have any special programs, so I am surprised to hear it is sealed. We would have no way of knowing that! TKL, I don't think anyone is trying to overstep boundaries, so you just might have to let us know if something feels like it is headed there. Part of the issue is that someone was allowed freedom of speech on issues she clearly didn't know about. Now, we are mentally having to go back and figure out what was an actual court documented, MSM documented fact versus what was just spread as fact, and mostly was not. No one means you or your family any harm, I don't think. You have, unfortunately, been dealt a hand by a person accused of horrendous crimes, that has placed you in the middle. I am sorry y'all have to deal with that.
 
  • #474
I think most references were made during the discussion over drug testing and the actual dates of said drug testing. That just happened to be where that info was found. Some were theorizing that CL could be involved in drugs and others were disputing that fact.
 
  • #475
The custody discussion, as I recall also, was largely propagated by VI-1.

VI-1 seemed to be acting in much the same role as a defense attorney would in the courtroom, doing the best job possible to paint a picture of the accused as a "victim"; a poor, helpless, shy, mild mannered mom who was only looking out for her kid's best interest but who had been wronged by several men around her and yes, perhaps made a few bad choices out of desperation. In that context she brought up the (now believed to be inaccurate) support payment story, which gave CL further cover for her "poor choice" in falling for AL's flash the cash scheme... it was made to sound as if she were so cash strapped due to all these circumstances beyond her control, AL strolled up with her only solution.

Much/most of what we heard about CL needs to be re-reviewed carefully now, IMO, given there are so many instances of discrepancies and unfounded unverified info that was presented. Unfortunately the mind assimilates that stuff when you first read it and forgets what the source was. The whole phone explanation (and over explanation) for example...we now discover, may have been all wrong.

Sorry to TKL for any impingement on you and your family's privacy that might have occurred in sleuthing here. But I do think that the ongoing effort to paint CL in a better light by the VI partially relied upon some discrediting of others around her. You included, unfortunately. Trying to make the accused seem like more of a victim... Some of it has fortunately been deleted as well.

Just my opinion.
 
  • #476
Watch this press conference .. at abt the 11:00 mark. Listen VERY CAREFULLY what Doc Holiday says... FIRST he say we knew her life was at stake then quickly changes it to We believed her life was at stake... and we wanted to do everything we could to FIND HER WHILE SHE WAS STILL ALIVE. we weren't able to do that... BUT we didn't know for sure until around midnight that she was not alive http://www.arkansasmatters.com/stor...-office-news-con/11075/EkLSAdYLB02bu0gkmjs4cA
 
  • #477
LEO got on this case, hard and heavy from the get go. The wording (and could be absolutely nothing) but Sheriff wording makes me think of cases where people missing had medical issues needing certain medications within a certain time frame. We never heard that plea, so I go back to one of my orig thoughts that they did receive more communication.. When they started asking people to look in buildings and so forth... makes me wonder if possibly they had gotten a picture of her like in movies "ransom photo". Who had AL not seen in 2 days... in the context of AL being asked... I feel like it was BC, not CL as some and I included have went back and forth on.. **Just thinking out loud...just my opinion
 
  • #478
I still believe they discovered or were told something after ALs arrest that led them to quite suddenly believe she was still alive. Why else would they have asked people to check sheds and barns? They had not asked anyone to do that previously.

Edit to add: ^^^^or what she said. Lol
 
  • #479
If a court document is accessible to the public from online court records then obviously it is not sealed which means anybody and everybody has access to it. If it were to be sealed and was not, then that is something IMO that needs to be taken up with the courts/justice system/attorney. Just my thoughts and opinion.
 
  • #480
BBM

I absolutely agree. This is what I meant when I stated that it had nothing to do with where CL is sitting right now. Child support, ex husband's new wives actions, custody disputes, etc. (as brought up by VI-1) are not the REASON she is being held in prison for murder. HER actions are the reason she is in prison awaiting trial for murder. You were able to state it much better than I was. :tyou:

I had forgotten some of that... new wives being blamed and really hurtful statements tossed out about that. Did not sit right. Hopefully that was deleted. Again, it all served to make one person look better by comparison. Smear everyone else around them. Oldest trick in da book.
 
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