GUILTY AR - Brandon Hutson for rape of 3yo girl, Springdale, 2010

  • #21
I was once VERY against the use of reins. Knowing what I know now, I feel a bit differently. I still have trouble with the 'leash' connotations, but can see where they would be very helpful when little ones 'insist' on walking by themselves.
 
  • #22
BOND!?!?!?!

*THUD*

Why bother - use them as target practice - feed him to cannibals IMOO

It's a waste of time and money - the risk of him offending again MY GOODNESS... you can't rehabilitate these kind of predators they are what they are - eradicate the problem by any means...

JMO by the way
 
  • #23
Why does it seem that possession of child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 requires a much greater bond and jail time than the molestation of child? Granted, child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 is created by the molestation of children, but I don't understand why these child rapists keep getting bond and a slap on the wrist. They immediately go out and do it again as soon as they are released. I don't understand what the rationale is.
 
  • #24
I was once VERY against the use of reins. Knowing what I know now, I feel a bit differently. I still have trouble with the 'leash' connotations, but can see where they would be very helpful when little ones 'insist' on walking by themselves.

My husband was born and raised in France, and when we had our third child in three years, he INSISTED that we use a harness/leash for the one who was walking......it was a wonderful tool to ensure that he did not wander away, it freed up my hands so that I could push the second child in a stroller while baby was in a tummy pack! Our first was born shortly after little Adam Walsh disappeared, and what happened to the Walsh family had a tremendous impact on us.

You wouldn't believe some of the comments I heard! The one that sticks out most in my mind is "you've leashed your son like he is a common dog!" I was so embarrassed, but I knew my boy was safe.
 
  • #25
kgeaux - I'm glad you and hubby were on the same page and could stand against the nay-sayers. I was once also against the leash/reins/harness whatever. But then we took a little one to a Christmas parade and the crowd was so big, she was literally ripped out of my grasp. We left immediately and now I would not take a little one to any such gathering without making sure they couldn't be taken from me.

The same in some of these big stores. It is so easy to lose them, especially if the little one wants to play and takes off running or something or want to hide from you. All youngsters go through that stage where they think it is funny. I prefer to play those type of games at home!

The reins/leash is also a very good idea when you are in a hurry, trying to get your errands done and may be easily distracted. If the child is attached, you don't have to worry that you will walk too fast to the next aisle and they won't see you round the corner, kwim?

Salem
 
  • #26
I used a leash-like thing. It was simply 2 velcro "bracelets" 1 larger one for my wrist and 1 smaller one for the kiddos attached by a long springy plastic cord (think corded phone line). It was wonderful as both of us had both hands free and kidlets had some although restricted freedom. We used it in a lot of situations and they felt "bigger" because they didn't think they had to hold your hand all the time, but they basically were!
 
  • #27
I really wish that they wouldn't call harnesses "leashes". It's no wonder some people are against them. I wouldn't want to put a "leash" on my child, but I'm all for harnesses. I've used them with my children.

I was at a splash park near my home yesterday with the girls (age 5 and 3), and the placed was packed with kids and parents, mostly age 5 and under. The place consists of 2 water areas, and a playground. Kind of close together, but not close enough for me, that I wouldn't get up and walk from one area to the other, as my kids ran from one section to another. It amazed me, really, the parents who just let their kids wander around. All it takes is a few seconds. Especially if the kidnapper can run faster than you (which, in my case, is about 98 percent of the time!).

There's absolutely no way I'd let the kids wander over into a different aisle, much less use the bathroom alone, at wal-mart.

I know I may be a *little* overprotective....but it sure beats the alternative, in my opinion.
 
  • #28
My husband was born and raised in France, and when we had our third child in three years, he INSISTED that we use a harness/leash for the one who was walking......it was a wonderful tool to ensure that he did not wander away, it freed up my hands so that I could push the second child in a stroller while baby was in a tummy pack! Our first was born shortly after little Adam Walsh disappeared, and what happened to the Walsh family had a tremendous impact on us.

You wouldn't believe some of the comments I heard! The one that sticks out most in my mind is "you've leashed your son like he is a common dog!" I was so embarrassed, but I knew my boy was safe.

I use a leash on the little one. I bought one after she darted away from me and into the street. I have arthritis and don't move so well, so I had to basically tackle her to stop her. She skinned her knees and was scolded by me and her two teen sisters, and let me tell you, she still talks about how she ran away and skinned her knees and scared Mommy. Still, I've got that backpack/leash thing, and I feel much safer.

I can't believe they let a reoffender out on bond. I shouldn't say that. I actually can believe it. I would actually be shocked if they did for once put a child rapist behind locked bars and keep him there.
 
  • #29
I have always believed in the leash/reins thing. I often was told that I treated my kids like dogs. My reply was if folks leash their dogs to keep them safe, then why not the same for my babies? My mom hated them and usually refused to go with us if we used the leash, her loss.
 
  • #30
This thread really has completely demolished any remaining reluctance I had to the reins. If/when I become a grandparent, I will absolutely advocate the use of them for my grandchildren. Safety is of utmost importance and I can clearly see now that the reins are an important tool in keeping children safe. I admit to privately scoffing in the past whenever I have seen them used, but no more. I still rarely see them. Maybe we need to start some kind of campaign to encourage the use of them. I was super vigilant whenever I took my daughter anywhere when she was little, but using the reins could have allowed me to give her a little more freedom without compromising safety.

ETA: I find it very disturbing that people have felt it was their business to openly comment on someone else using them. What makes people think that is okay? I couldn't imagine approaching someone I didn't know to comment on their parenting choices in public. Unless the child was being abused, then all bets are off.
 
  • #31
I expect the reason they're more common over here in the eu is because the streets are narrower AND it's much more common to walk somewhere. that is, it's only a quick misstep and then pure tragedy. plus more people walking = more crowds etc. like I said earlier mine likes to be carried cause he doesnt like getting whacked with shopping bags etc :( which is fine by me. but I was more than happy to use a harness with his brother many moons ago. this was in the US, not EU and I got many comments also on how horrible of a mother I was...but that one was an escape artist! there was no telling him not to run off. he never got it til he was too big for the harness anyways.

and so back on topic - has the monster posted bail or is he rotting in county where he belongs? ITA with the previous post asking why having child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 gets huge sentences whereas actually assaulting a child gets almost nothing.
 
  • #32
I'm actually more than a bit surprised but pleased that many have tried the reins or tethers and had success. I think the ones being sold in Europe are really spot on as the child wears a cute animal themed backpack and the tether is attached to that. I can see a child being very excited that they get an extra 2-3 feet of "freedom".

After raising so many children with cognitive challenges, I go back to a single class I took years ago. It was designed for parents of special needs--especially unattached children. These are children who are NOT imprinted to seek the parent out but to inappropriately seek attention from strangers or to satisfy their own needs or fears through self-stimulation or over-eating. These children are at the highest risk of all. Many healthy bonded children, who are merely spirited, are also at risk as they like to test the boundaries.

Before I go any further, let me put a disclaimer here. In the mid-90s, adoptive parents and professionals were just learning about the depth of the problem concerning lack of attachment. If you haven't been exposed to a child with this disorder, it is impossible to understand. Everything these children do is contrary to what we expect from children in our society. Almost every behavior is contrary to how a healthy, bonded child would react.

Children who have experienced early losses and multiple moves and those who have been institutionalized suffer the most. Several "experts" rose up in the 90s to teach and to help. Some methods have since been disproved. A handful were actually accused and convicted of child abuse and two of causing a child's death during a therapy session.

The same people who were teaching these classes also ran expensive treatment centers which professed "re-birthing" and "holding techniques". I'll be blunt here. I don't believe that they work and I think that many of the tactics do skate on the very edge of abuse. However, I refuse to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Total blind obedience is never a healthy thing. Children's spirits should NEVER be broken. However, when it comes to simple safety issues, I'm on board with "puppy training". As with everything, each parenting method has to be modified to fit each child.

Anyway the class was titled, "Come, Sit, Stay, and Go". I'm sure many were offended by the connection with dog training but I wasn't. I learned more in those two hours than I have in hundreds of other boring and plodding classes about child development.

The first item of business is for all children to learn to come when called. A healthy child will typically come to their parent as that is where comfort and food has come from since the day of birth. This isn't true for an unbonded child. You have no history with them. They trust no one. We were taught that there could never be any games about this unless a parent has set up a game. We were taught to practice, practice, practice at home until we got it down and safe. Many of the children would not respond to their names being called so we were taught to carry an M & M (or similar goodie) in our pocket. Go about your day and call the child, if she immediately comes, she gets an M & M. Many of you might think, oh and a kiss or a hug, too? NO! These children were inappropriate about affection and that was a totally different lesson. However, for less affected or healthy children; praise or affection works wonders. Talk about imprinting!! It's very much like training a puppy to come.

We also learned to teach children to stop, look, listen and answer when they heard their name. If you call out, "Allison!!", Allison MUST answer with a "coming Mom" or "I'm in the bathroom, Mom". Practice until they get it down perfect with lots of rewards. We were also taught to always answer a child's call--always--even a whine. We were taught that it is OK to say, "I hear you but I'm choosing not to talk right now as you are whining. When you can use a big girl voice, I will answer." Amazingly effective.

We learned to set up practice sessions and to do role playing, ranging from the pragmatic and simple to the far-fetched and silly. All these "games" were based on safety and on imprinting what is safe and what is definitely NOT.

To this very day, I guarantee you, that if I called loudly from my bed a particular child's name, I would hear back immediately, "Coming Mommy". And these kids are now adults and have a zillion issues. They know how to come, though. I used to hear from teachers that my children absolutely shone on the safety rules. Practice.

Sit, stay, and go are a whole 'nother post!! LOL
 
  • #33
I can't believe this 3 y.o. wasn't in the shopping cart or wearing a harness! I'm not blaming the mom for the assault. That should never have happened. But that child should have been properly cared for. :furious:
 
  • #34
November 2011

A convicted sex offender has been sentenced to 60 years in jail for raping a child in a Walmart bathroom.

Brandon Hutson, 22, pleaded guilty on Thursday to the rape of a 3 year old girl, according to prosecuting attorney John Threet.

http://nwahomepage.com/fulltext-news?nxd_id=286347
 

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