AR - Josh Duggar Admits Molesting Girls As A Teenager - #2

[MinnesotaMary]

New Book: 'LOGIC, ETHICS & MORALITY', a college level textbook by Jimmy Bob Duggar.
LESSON ONE: No 15 y old who sexually molests or rapes (penetrates) a 5 y old can be a pedophile, because age 16 is the cut off for pedophilia.
LESSON TWO: No one can be sexually molested or raped - adult, child, infant, 5 y old.... - if they were asleep when it happened.
LESSON THREE: No one can be sexually molested or raped - adult, child, infant, 5 y old.... - if it 'only happened for a few seconds'.
LESSON FOUR: Most typically there are victims of sexual molestation and rape but no perpetrator. ('it wasn't so bad').
LESSON FIVE: Josh is not Chester the Molester because I heard at my church that a whole lot worse sexual molestations and rapes happen in my other church member's home :thinking:
LESSON SIX: I'm not a mandatory reporter, so I didn't do nuttin' wrong.
LESSON SEVEN: I can dry hu@p my wife in front of our 17 y old daughter and her BF (see putt putt gold video, above, but 'GROSS OUT' WARNING ALERT !!), but that daughter can't kiss 'til married, and, yeah, it's ok for her to be sexually molested or raped (penetrated) so long as it happened in our home by a male under age 16 (cuz' 16 and above means possible pedophiile).
LESSON EIGHT: Danger lurks Everywhere outside of my wonderful home - - it is waaay too dangerous to have any of my kids mingle with any of the neighbors, let alone the community.
LESSON NINE: So long as you do it fast and while they're asleep, anything goes !


(this textbook by JimBob could go on forever........................) So very creepy and dangerous are those parents IMO, Jim Bob and Stepf@rd Wif@ Michelle.


And another thing: I am utterly SICK of Jim Bob and the 'unnamed church elder' saying that Josh 'confessed all' ---- how the freak' would they know - how the freak' would anyone know - - none of us can know that !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[bexlex]

This is the first time during this case that I've felt surprised.

and then there were none.....

Mike Huckabee Removes All Signs of Recent Support for the Duggars

http://www.eonline.com/news/663238/mike-huckabee-removes-all-signs-of-recent-support-for-the-duggars

I feel relief.....somebody is steering the ship

 

[Bravo]

I would like to ask the Duggars if same rule applies. Say a 14 year old boy states he is a homosexual. He is not really a homosexual?

 

[Zuri]

I watched the interview last night and again today twice, to get the full gist of it. Some of the things I noticed were:

The interview was heavily edited and IMO, all answers were approved by the Duggar attorneys. If you noticed, the camera had swift cuts to/between MK and the Duggars in most instances between questions. There was not a lot of fluidity between the two parties.

IMO all questions were reviewed beforehand, and the answers had "talking points". Where it got interesting was when MK asked a follow up question immediately and the answers were choppy.

MK did a very good job guarding her facial expressions, however you could tell when an answer startled her by watching her eyes. The most significant startled response IMO was to JBD stating that JB was not a pedophile due to his age at time of his acts of molestations.

IMO Because Fox has a large conservative, Evangelical Christian audience, the interview had to be carefully done so as not to offend their viewers, thus the softball type questions and more probing questions asked in a non threatening way. IMO

 

[Bravo]

It's pretty common knowledge that molesters lie and do minimize their crimes. Just sayin......Josh knows what exactly he did and how often. I don't believe a word of this. Even from the Police Report. Another watered down version IMO.

 

[Hoosgirl]

I don't think a lawsuit for releasing the records is going to fly ... and I sure don't think there was a bribe.

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/...-didn-t-tell-you-the-cover-up-continues-59917

 

[Montjoy]

I watched the interview last night and again today twice, to get the full gist of it. Some of the things I noticed were:

The interview was heavily edited and IMO, all answers were approved by the Duggar attorneys. If you noticed, the camera had swift cuts to/between MK and the Duggars in most instances between questions. There was not a lot of fluidity between the two parties.

IMO all questions were reviewed beforehand, and the answers had "talking points". Where it got interesting was when MK asked a follow up question immediately and the answers were choppy.

MK did a very good job guarding her facial expressions, however you could tell when an answer startled her by watching her eyes. The most significant startled response IMO was to JBD stating that JB was not a pedophile due to his age at time of his acts of molestations.

IMO Because Fox has a large conservative, Evangelical Christian audience, the interview had to be carefully done so as not to offend their viewers, thus the softball type questions and more probing questions asked in a non threatening way. IMO

Excellent analysis.

I have reviewed parts of the interview today, and I'm really flabbergasted. Even for Fox, this was a highly unethical use of the media. There was never a hint of impartiality or investigation in this interview. It was strictly an opportunity for the parents of a serial child molester to absolve him of guilt and promote themselves. And Fox knew that it would garner viewers, too.

 

[believe09]

Riiiighhhtttt ... and he also said that Josh only touched them for SECONDS.

In his eyes, the 5 second rule applies here. JimBob is an A-hole.

:clap: post of the day for me...

 

[believe09]

Have you seen the "Hey" video? Apparently "Hey" and "Hey Hey!" are "Duggarisms". Someone built a montage video showing how all the members of the family overuse certain words "amazing" and "special" among them, and also used a lot of clips with Jim Bob saying "Hey", "Hey guys" and "Hey Hey!" There was a snippet of him telling Michelle it was time to "go to bed and 'hey HEY hey". The whole family was shown the video and commented that they had not realized how often these words were used. Then one daughter, I think Jessa, made a remark about "Hey" and "Hey Hey" being "greetings" while "Hey hey hey" was used to mean "something else".

"precious." Hearing M say precious over and over again.....sigh

 

[believe09]

snipped......
The Sheriff’s Office was responding to a written request by the above cited lawyer.
Various staff handled this request within our office because the request was so broad. Employees from several different areas in our agency such as Dispatch, Records, and our Criminal Investigation Division compiled information and ultimately returned it to the Records Division where over 50 pages were finally copied and mailed to the requestor, Abtin Mehdizadegan. Within those 50 pages was the 7 page report that has now made national news. That report had juvenile names redacted from it before release at the direction of Major Rick Hoyt.

In case peeps arent familiar with FOIA, there isnt always a data dump and you cant just make a general request. It has to be targeted and LE can refuse based upon certain criteria. If the request doesnt meet the certain criteria, it has to be released. It is the law. The reports have been substantially redacted. Josh wasnt a minor. No one named the victims except for their parents and then some outed themselves.

 

[Bravo]

I have yet to watch the Interview. I have viewed clips. Guess I may as well dive in. Sigh.....

 

[believe09]

' should our whole family be PUNISHED because of the actions of one '?

Josh, I bet you didnt know the bus would be coming for you courtesy of Jim Bob did you?

 

[believe09]

and then there were none.....

Mike Huckabee Removes All Signs of Recent Support for the Duggars

http://www.eonline.com/news/663238/mike-huckabee-removes-all-signs-of-recent-support-for-the-duggars

Ah Mike, hoping to wash the stink off?? I wonder if they consulted him as well when Josh made his "mistake."

 

[believe09]

I don't think a lawsuit for releasing the records is going to fly ... and I sure don't think there was a bribe.

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/...-didn-t-tell-you-the-cover-up-continues-59917

This is an excellent read because it is a point counterpoint and shows the incredible bias of not only Fox but possibility that someone in Springdale was closely affiliated with the Duggar's:

6) Megyn Kelly said that the Duggars “hadn’t gotten a heads-up” about the release of Josh’s police report and the Duggars did not dispute that. But In Touch has obtained documents that show the city of Springdale alerted them before releasing the records. The law does not require the city to alert someone before their records are released pursuant to a FOIA request.

 

[Bravo]

When exactly did the girls get "accredited, professional counseling from a counselor", Jim Bob? It had to have been after 2007 because in December 2006 the interviewees all said there had been none other than Josh going away to Little Rock.

Day before the Interview LOL
kidding of course

 

[believe09]

The destruction of the records by the order of the court warrants a very careful review of the judge and the circumstances imvho.

 

[MsMarple]

I don't think a lawsuit for releasing the records is going to fly ... and I sure don't think there was a bribe.

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/...-didn-t-tell-you-the-cover-up-continues-59917

From your link:

2) When discussing the legal situation surrounding Josh’s confession of molestation, Jim Bob told Fox News that he and Michelle were “not mandatory reporters, the law allows parents to do what they think is best for their child.” Not so. While they are not mandatory reporters, the law does not allow them to do what they think is best for their child in this situation, multiple legal experts tell In Touch.

By not reporting the at-least SEVEN instances of abuse on at least THREE occasions during a period of more than a year, they could have faced felony charges for child endangerment, with a six-year prison term.

This makes me mad all over again. It's time to revamp the statutes of limitations on all criminal acts against children.

ETA: The entire article is a must-read!

 

[believe09]

Dont they get that this makes it all worse? All of it. We already knew they abdicated their responsibility when they chose to protect the one over the rest of the family. Saying that it wasnt molestation if it was over clothes and there wasnt a big age gap, and that they arent mandatory reporters is insane.

Supporters, what more do you need to know? Children, what more do you need to know? JB just threw your brother to the wolves-arent you wondering who is next?

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I have yet to watch the Interview. I have viewed clips. Guess I may as well dive in. Sigh.....

Be sure to wear modest swimwear that doesn't expose any skin

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I saw that. I am.a grandmother. In all of my years , in all of my travels, with all of my friends and in all of the situations where I have been, I have necer once seen parents act like that. Ever. If I did, I would remove them from my circle of friends or acquaintences.

Who acts like that in front of their children??

Maybe some stars or someone hopped up on drugs.

When I was in my early 20s I stayed with a friend's family and her parents acted like that, it was creepy and weird. Then one night, when I was in a bedroom watching a current affairs show while everyone else watched a soap, her father came in and started to stroke my back and leg in an inappropriate way. After that I noticed signs that made me wonder if my friend had suffered molestation from her father as a child, but we never talked about it. The inappropriate public affection by her parents in public was the talk of the other adults of the group, they made everyone uncomfortable and were socially avoided because of it.