AR - Josh Duggar Admits Molesting Girls As A Teenager - #3

[Hope4More]

Just found this thread....

I had heard of the Duggars before this, but knew zero about them or blanket parenting or "biblical parenting" or the incredibly bizarre and damaging notions that pass for education in their sect .

Wow. BTW, I recommend the site --homeschoolers anonymous for anyone interested in hearing from kids who survived the experience.

From what I've read, the Duggars may well be right that what Josh did to his sisters is mild compared to what other same-sect brothers have done to their sisters. How convenient for them- and how hypocritical --to acknowledge how twisted and damaging their style of parenting is, but for others only.

I don't think it's any accident that Josh chose to molest his 5 year old sister after he had molested the others, and I doubt his choice had anything to do with being more physically attracted by a baby.

Based on what I've read, I think he chose the 5 year old because he could exercise maximum control over her. She - and all her sisters --had been taught from birth and by example that girls exist solely to please men and to have babies, and that it was a punishable sin to not be happy about their place, much less to resist their reality, even in thought, the privacy of which is not allowed.

A five year old girl in that family would be most vulnerable because she wouldn't be old enough to fight back at any level, not even in thought.

That the Duggars don't feel any empathy for their daughters is completely unsurprising, given their beliefs. What reveals them as rank liars and hypocrites, though, is their minimization of their son's crimes.

If they parented according to what they say they believe, they wouldn't have dismissed what he did. There he was, confessing to being the dirty , sinful, deeply flawed child they believe all children to be.

Either they punished him and punished him severely each time, hoping to "break" him for his terrible sins, or they didn't punish him, because regardless of what is taught, in practice they believe only girls and women need and deserve to be broken, and any which way will do.

 

[leah]

If that's true then I really, really hope her family and her husband aren't expecting her to pop out 19 babies.

I certainly hope this girl isn't being taken advantage of.

 

[BeginnersLuck]

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/08/a_f...entalist_education_it’s_literal_rape_culture/

 

[Hiandmighty]

deleted: unfounded rumor

 

[human]

Well, I hate politics, absolutely loathe the topic. But I will say I'm pretty sure libs and reps alike want to protect children. There are a few ' issues' that both sides should universally agree upon and preying on children should be one. So for either side to now say this is the blues/ reds who support/ don't support child abusers will be very , very stupid . However, it looks like that is exactly what is about to happen. The other GOP candidates take heed from Huck's statements right now. NO ONE likes child abusers. It should be easy enough to knock him out of the nomination ( not that I think he had a chance at it anyway) by using his own pro-Duggar statements.

With that said let's unaminously agree to support " Child Protector for 2016"

( I don't actually vote any more, but if I did )

If only we all agrred on child sex abuse and domestic violence. This has shown me that there are people that accept it.

Mind blower!

 

[human]

You'll find it interesting where Anna's sister Priscilla, met her husband.
And you can mark my words on that. :smile:
They also have some rebellion. :clap:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/faithgoespop/2012/08/meet-the-kellers-the-duggars-in-laws/

I figured Priscilla for 13 years old.

 

[JerseyGirl]

How the story came together:

The Duggar story came together quickly over a three-week period, said David Perel, editorial director of InTouch. He won’t name the magazine’s sources, but a woman named Tandra Barnfield apparently was a helpful guide.

Barnfield was contacted by an InTouch reporter, Melissa Roberto, earlier this year after Barnfield posted a photo on Instagram of her kissing her wife, Samantha Muzny, in front of the Duggars’ home near Springdale, Ark. The photo — a protest, Barnfield said, of Michelle Duggar’s role in promoting opposition to an anti-discrimination initiative last year — had gone viral.

During their conversation, Barnfield, who lives in the Houston area but has family in Springdale, told Roberto about the police report. “It wasn’t like it was a rumor to us,” Barnfield said in an interview. “We knew all about it. . . . It wasn’t hard to get it. You just had to know where to look.”

Perel quickly dispatched two reporters to Springdale and hired a local law firm to advise the magazine about Arkansas’ open-records law, which enables residents (but not reporters from New Jersey) to obtain public documents.

The law firm filed the records request — and was rewarded with a copy of the original police report several days later. “We got it fast,” Perel said.

More requests and more documents followed, although Perel said the magazine hasn’t got everything it wanted.

“Do I have more information on the Duggars in general?” he said. “Yes, I’d say we have some significant things coming out,” though he declined to say what.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...dabc4a-0bbe-11e5-95fd-d580f1c5d44e_story.html

 

[Montjoy]

I certainly hope this girl isn't being taken advantage of.

She seems very slow and brainwashed, and I gather that being taken advantage of, one way or another, is something to which she is accustomed. She shouldn't be homeschooling anyone.

 

[Tony1902]

Oy vey! Google tells me this woman will turn 29 in July! Is that true? She acts like a 13 year-old.

I suppose no one has taught the little Duggar girl--Josie--not to pick her nose & eat the boogers either in public or on camera? True, Priscilla doesn't sound 29 there's some slight problem with syntax? Or is it just me still teaching?

 

[JerseyGirl]

Moving trucks were spotted at the the admitted molester’s Oxon Hill, Maryland home early Tuesday packing up his stuff.

http://radaronline.com/photos/josh-...oxon-hill-maryland-home-photos/photo/1063169/

 

[JerseyGirl]

How much money they [used to] make on speaking engagements:

For several years the Duggar family has been active on the professional speaking circuit, discussing such issues as their Christian faith, parenting and reality television. According to Celebrity Talent, Jim Bob commands a minimum fee of $7,500 to $14,999 for domestic engagements and $15,000 to $24,999 for international gigs. The Celebrity Speakers Bureau says the fee for Jim Bob and Michelle ranges between $10,000 and $20,000.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/06/09/what-next-for-duggar-family/

 

[JerseyGirl]

The Duggars' public-image crisis is being managed by Chad Gallagher, Mike Huckabee’s longtime political adviser and head of the Arkansas firm Legacy Consulting. Gallagher also oversees Huckabee’s political action committee, Huck PAC.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/09/duggars-huckabee-adviser_n_7544448.html

webpage:
http://legacyincorporated.com/our-principal/

 

[moonriverfarm]

http://davidlovespriscilla.com/about-us/david-story/

http://davidlovespriscilla.com/about-us/priscillas-story/

David is a higher up at ATI, it's also been rumored forever that he is gay and that their marriage is a sham. His nickname for those not into the Duggars on the 'net is "The Fabulous David Waller". [joke].

https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwwaller

This from his blog re: dating:

Having never dated any girls except my mom and sisters, it was super special to go out to a few restaurants during this time and share in many special memories.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Gross and bizarre.


I admit I have wondered if this is an elaborate pedophila crime ring...

 

[Mistelski]

I wonder which passages were read from in that engagement video where he and Anna are reading from the bible (while Josh is driving!) Probably not these:


1 Corinthians 6:13 ESV

“Food is meant for the stomach and the stomach for food—and God will destroy both one and the other. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body."

Is it not sexually immoral to molest sisters/babysitters, even if they may be asleep (or pretending to sleep), or if your hypocritical, control freak, enabler parents claim the girls were ignorant of it even being molestation/sexual immorality? Yeah, right, they were unaware/ignorant! No way I will believe that ever.


Ephesians 5:1-6:24

"Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children. And walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God. But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving. For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. ..."

Molestation is sexually immoral, as well as filthy and impure, and at 14, even JDtheP MUST HAVE KNOWN that.


Galatians 5:19-21 ESV

"Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God."

Will NOT inherent the kingdom of God, you child molester fiend, due to your acts of impurity and sexual immorality. HYPOCRITE.


1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ESV

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God"

That's right, child molester - you're no better than the gays your religion is condemning to hell. Get in line.


Galatians 5:16 ESV

"But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh."

This must have been covered at some point in the Ds uber-religious bible-thumping homeschool lessons. Were you not listening??? "Curious about girls" enough to molest them -repeatedly, over a period of time and to many victims - is desire of the flesh.


Revelation 21:8 ESV

"But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

Hear that, child molester? Lake of sulfur and fire. YOU KNEW BETTER! Get out your modest swimwear, it's gonna be a long trip to the lake.


http://www.openbible.info/topics/molestation


Moo.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

OK does anyone else wonder why so many of the fundie teachings and isolation practices are perfect for creating and repressing victims, and on top of that wonder why we see so much sexual abuse coming from these quarters? Is it possible this kind of mentality is attracting pedophiles as well as untreated molestation victims blaming themselves, and carrying the abuse forward? I'm really starting to think the two go together and I'm also thinking this stretches back for generations. It would be interesting to see a study on that.

 

[JerseyGirl]

OK does anyone else wonder why so many of the fundie teachings and isolation practices are perfect for creating and repressing victims, and on top of that wonder why we see so much sexual abuse coming from these quarters? Is it possible this kind of mentality is attracting pedophiles as well as untreated molestation victims blaming themselves, and carrying the abuse forward? I'm really starting to think the two go together and I'm also thinking this stretches back for generations. It would be interesting to see a study on that.

http://gawker.com/insane-duggar-cult-leader-posts-new-statement-immedi-1708747235#

 

[EllieBee]

Aha, looking at the stills from the Duggar sisters' interview, I think I understand the motive behind the directive for long hair.

Theoretically (or so I've read) it's to draw the attention up to the face instead of to the body, but the eye naturally wanders down in curiosity to see how long the hair actually is. And that leads to...the BOOBIES!

Try this visual experiment and see if I'm lying.

Hee hee. You said "BOOBIES".

 

[blue22]

I admit I have not read all the posts. This is a great justification for sex education. Both for the kids and parents. What happened to "playing doctor"? Did the parents know the difference. Were the girls educated to tell the first time? Did they even know it could lead to abuse? Did Josh do this because "sex" was never discussed in the home. A 14 year old boys has hormones raging. If sex was never discussed, neither Josh or the girls would know what was happening.

I'm not sure he could not know what was happening, since he supposedly knew it was wrong and confessed. Plus, after the first time they "disciplined him" and he knew is was wrong, but did it several times again later. Sex IS actually discussed,quite a lot. They know what it is, and they know they shouldn't do it and why. (According to their belief system.) So, no...I would not say they ever receive any kind of useful sexual education, but they know what sex is from young ages.

 

[sorrell skye]

OK does anyone else wonder why so many of the fundie teachings and isolation practices are perfect for creating and repressing victims, and on top of that wonder why we see so much sexual abuse coming from these quarters? Is it possible this kind of mentality is attracting pedophiles as well as untreated molestation victims blaming themselves, and carrying the abuse forward? I'm really starting to think the two go together and I'm also thinking this stretches back for generations. It would be interesting to see a study on that.

I've just finished reading an excellent article about this.

Twelve Characteristics of Fundamentalist Societies that Shelter Sexual Abuse

http://www.recoveringgrace.org/2014...entalist-societies-that-shelter-sexual-abuse/