AR - Josh Duggar Admits Molesting Girls As A Teenager - #3

[believe09]

Interestingly enough, Josh has also just hired a bodyguard familiar with the spotlight -- Steve Nield, Kate Gosselin's bodyguard, who the former Kate Plus 8 star was rumored to be dating last year. Sources tell ET that Nield was spotted at Josh's Maryland home on Monday, telling photographers to leave.

Meaning, imo, TLC hired him a bodyguard.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Anna is due sometime in late June/early July.
I believe she is about 3 weeks ahead of me.
(She was 9 weeks in late November reportedly.)



I hate to sound like I'm defending them...
Our lease wasn't up until August and we moved in May.
I am also due in July and I didn't want to wait until after the birth to move.
I am not planning a home birth but it would have been even more important if I was.
I had already heard that they were going to return to Arkansas since he resigned.
So I'm betting they just wanted to move before the birth. :twocents:

I dunno if I would uproot my family and take my wife away from her birthing plans, midwife, hospital (whatever means she was planning this birth) just mere weeks before her due date.

They fled Maryland.

 

[JerseyGirl]

After the 70 some hours the Duggars claim Jill was in labor, and that her water broke very early in her labor and she was sipping water during labor and did not rush to the hospital after how many hours after her water broke, I would NOT want Jill delivering my baby!!

 

[Mountaingazer]

All I know is what she says in that link. Sounds like an actual school to me. :dunno:
Shouldn't be a problem for any one of them to take a GED. They may even get diplomas.
I don't know how the Duggar's do it. I haven't ever looked into it.

Distance learning programs are actually very common for those studying to be midwives. There just aren't the numbers to have schools all over the place, so midwives in training do their education via computer and mail correspondence and then do the hands on training by an approved certified midwife.

The education requirements are usually a high school diploma or a GED. If you have neither, there is also a standardized test I believe you can take to prove knowledge equivalency.

I have one friend who just became certified through a distance program and two others who are still in training. I can ask them for input if anyone wants more info.

 

[JerseyGirl]

In a press release, the Springdale Mayor said that his city “will not dignify suggestions of misconduct in this matter by Chief O’Kelley with any comment beyond labeling them as outrageous and categorically false.” Mayor Sprouse went on to list applicable “facts” about Arkansas’ Freedom of Information Act, saying that upon receiving the request, Chief O’Kelley “referred the matter to the Springdale City Attorney for an opinion.” The police department also contacted or attempted to contact the Arkansas Municipal League, the Arkansas State Police, the Washington County Juvenile Prosecuting Attorney within the Washington County Prosecuting Attorney’s Office and the Arkansas Department of Human Services.

Furthermore, Mayor Sprouse said the family was informed about the request:

Subsequently and consistent with and pursuant to advice of legal counsel, the City Attorney determined that the record – after thorough redaction — was subject to release under the FOIA. Prior to release, the record went through several rounds of review that included redaction of the names of minors and all potentially identifying pronouns.

The Mayor also shot down Jim Bob and Michelle’s suggestion that Chief O’Kelley had a personal vendetta:

With respect to the Police Chief’s reference to ‘unfinished business’ cited in her retirement letter, those issues relate to issues of Departmental structure, organization and leadership succession planning and were not in reference to any case specific, including this one. Any suggestion or assertion otherwise is patently false.

http://starcasm.net/archives/318516

 

[JerseyGirl]

There is a rumor going around on the Pickles and Hairspray Facebook page and on FreeJinger that Derick QUIT his job at Walmart.

Not sure if it's directly related to the scandal or if they are planning on leaving for Nepal ASAP. Will keep you posted...

 

[JerseyGirl]

Supposedly, Jill has a bodyguard outside her house, too:

theduggarfamily19 Drove by the Duggar's houses today! Took @jillmdillard a blanket I made for little Israel. Didn't get to personally deliver it but her body guard took it to her for me. Also got to see the church @jessaseewald and @ben_seewald took their engagement pictures at. It's pretty awesome living so close to them! @duggarfam @jillmdillard @derickdillard

theduggarfamily19@the_dillardfamily @carriechiller @duggarlover19 Jill's house did. Probably because she don't have a fence around her house. But she don't always have one (a bodyguard), she has one for now since all these things came out about Josh. Jessa and Ben weren't home tho so they didn't have one, and JimBob's house didn't have one because they have a gated property.

theduggarfamily19@chocolatetuyyo they actually haven't had one until now. So I think it has something to do with the things about Josh, because magazines are trying to get an interview with them and they don't want people harassing jill.

theduggarfamily19@the_dillardfamily We pulled up in their drive way and he (the bodyguard) drove his car down to us and asked if he could help us, then we told him we wanted to deliver a blanket and he said he would do it for us and he asked my name and stuff like that

https://instagram.com/p/3uJNIDo40C/

 

[bessythecat]

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/new-investigation-launched-against-duggar-family-911-called-60330

 

[SCHMAE]

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/new-investigation-launched-against-duggar-family-911-called-60330

Wow. Ok , so this is a new investigation currently ? RE: minor child still living in the home? Curious , if I read that right.

 

[leah]

Are there threats against family to have bodyguards? Or is that normal to have bodyguards when you are on a reality show?

 

[leah]

I dunno if I would uproot my family and take my wife away from her birthing plans, midwife, hospital (whatever means she was planning this birth) just mere weeks before her due date.

They fled Maryland.

Just a wild guess, but I'm sure what the man wants the man gets. Even if she wanted to stay, it probably wouldn't matter.

 

[Donjeta]

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/new-investigation-launched-against-duggar-family-911-called-60330

The Duggar family is under investigation again by the Arkansas Department of Human Services and police were called when the family refused to cooperate, In Touch magazine is reporting exclusively in its new issue that hits newsstands today.

A representative from the Washington County DHS called 911 on May 27 at around 11 a.m. asking for police assistance when DHS was not allowed to see the minor they were concerned about.

How nice to know that they cooperate fully with the authorities and have nothing to hide.

 

[oh_gal]

There is a rumor going around on the Pickles and Hairspray Facebook page and on FreeJinger that Derick QUIT his job at Walmart.

Not sure if it's directly related to the scandal or if they are planning on leaving for Nepal ASAP. Will keep you posted...

So...you have a new baby, and you quit your corporate job? And head off, with your newborn son, to a country that has been all but decimated by earthquakes, which could strike again, at any time. That makes a lot of sense.

 

[bexlex]

Meaning, imo, TLC hired him a bodyguard.

Oooohhhhh....... Glad you put that together for me!!.... because I thought it seemed bizarre....and it NEVER occurred to me that TLC would be helping out in any way

ETA....what are you doing TLC??? Get out while you still can!

 

[bexlex]

Quote Originally Posted by bessythecat View Post

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/n...1-called-60330




The Duggar family is under investigation again by the Arkansas Department of Human Services and police were called when the family refused to cooperate, In Touch magazine is reporting exclusively in its new issue that hits newsstands today.

A representative from the Washington County DHS called 911 on May 27 at around 11 a.m. asking for police assistance when DHS was not allowed to see the minor they were concerned about.

How nice to know that they cooperate fully with the authorities and have nothing to hide.

Wait....when was this? May 27, 2015????

 

[JerseyGirl]

Oooohhhhh....... Glad you put that together for me!!.... because I thought it seemed bizarre....and it NEVER occurred to me that TLC would be helping out in any way

ETA....what are you doing TLC??? Get out while you still can!

I don't think TLC hired a body guard for Josh. Steve lives in Maryland and no longer works for Kate.

 

[leah]

Wait....when was this? May 27, 2015????

That's what I'm wondering, but it does seem just recently? If Anna would want to leave, it seems her family has members that aren't overboard like the Duggars, and maybe could live with one of them. But at the same time I realize there are people that no matter what will grin and bare it, regardless of the situation in the marriage. Their kids are awfully cute, and seem spunky, maybe Anna and Josh are not as strict in raising them, or that is my wishful thinking? With all that stress, and moving, I hope Anna doesn't run into complications with this pregnancy. I'm stuck on the video that showed Anna and Josh's engagement, she seemed so giddy and childlike, I have to wonder if she was even remotely ready for all that, or was she thrown into it by family? Want to add, I also have learned so much from this discussion, things I never knew existed. And how many people have gone through traumatic childhoods, there are words I would like to say, but have no idea how to.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Anna pursued Josh, she had stars in her eyes and was determined to snag him and be the fundie royalty princess. She knew what she was marrying a child molester and went ahead with it anyway - and drank more of the kool-aid to boot. I have no sympathy for her. Josh married her simply because he couldn't find anyone in the state of Arkansas willing to marry him with his past - as evidenced by his 2 cancelled previous engagements.

Anna: When I was thirteen I first heard about the Duggar family, through mutual friends. It was Christmas Day, and I read an article about the Duggars that a friend had sent to us. The Duggars had thirteen children at the time, and I thought it would be neat to meet them one day!

http://ja20.com/ourstory/

 

[leah]

Anna pursued Josh, she had stars in her eyes and was determined to snag him and be the fundie royalty princess. She knew what she was marrying a child molester and went ahead with it anyway - and drank more of the kool-aid to boot. I have no sympathy for her. Josh married her simply because he couldn't find anyone in the state of Arkansas willing to marry him with his past - as evidenced by his 2 cancelled previous engagements.



http://ja20.com/ourstory/

I didn't realize all that, I saw something all together different with that video.

 

[BritsKate]

I'm pretty sure this has been discussed before, but do you happen to know what sort of school she's in? Is this perhaps something akin to a mail-order education, or is this a religion-based program? As I've said before, I think that trained midwives can do terrific work in uncomplicated pregnancies, but I have to wonder if any of the Duggar kids even have the requisite education to enroll in a proper midwifery program, which is so sad.

From what I've read, it's an online school approved by Vision Forum Ministries (now defunct due to the founder's extra-marital affairs). Secondary education for older girls is very much a mixed bag - some families support it while others feel its unnecessary, if not perhaps a bit dangerous. Women who do pursue secondary education tend to stick to stereotypical roles - nursing, midwifery, childcare, etc. A GED is commonplace as many young adults have been home-schooled. HSA (Homeschoolers Anonymous) is filled with stories of survivors of this movement who feel their education was lacking and tales of their parents creatively composing their transcripts. Folding laundry can become a B in Advanced European History, for example.

It would be normal, even commonplace, for many women of this movement to receive care by a midwife (even one unaccredited); VBAC and home births are also heavily preferred. They're not against modern medicine (although some more fervent do have issues with vaccines) but there's reason for all this - something the Duggars don't have to worry about (yet) and that's money. Having a child in a hospital and prenatal care can be so expensive for most of us who only have a child or two - P/QF followers eschew all forms of government assistance (to include medical care) - some even renounce insurance (except what is required by law), insisting if you seek out insurance, you're doubting God's ability to protect your family if some tragedy arises. And then there's a knock on 'benefit' of home birth followed by home schooling - the parent controls all paperwork the child will one day need to move forth in the world.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolong...-real-reality-of-the-duggar-family-blessings/
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2013/02/quoting-quiverfull-is-insurance-sin/
https://homeschoolersanonymous.word...adult-children-maturity-and-drivers-licenses/
https://homeschoolersanonymous.word...homeschool-abuse-lana-martins-story-part-two/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...2dbb1a-efbc-11e2-bed3-b9b6fe264871_story.html