AR - Josh Duggar Admits Molesting Girls As A Teenager - #3

[Ixchel13]

Oh, I bet they will. As long as the Duggars keep speaking out against the transgenders and the gays. Because don'tcha know they pose way more threat to "the family" and "family values" than any incest that might go on in a family.

Color me cynical.

very good point. Call me cynical too, the sheer overload of irony in the situation keeps me coming back for more info.
oh yeah, and justice must be served.

They are just attention/addicted enough to star in a series portraying hipocritical christians and the awful things they do in the name of Jesus. Kind of like Salem meets Seventh Heaven.

 

[gitana1]

Josiah Duggar's courtship has ended:

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment...iah-duggars-courtship-ended/story?id=32896159

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...rs-parents-insist-split-step-Lord-s-will.html

 

[nomoresorrow]

(BBM)

I thought since people are still posting about this some new info must have come out. But no just FOX bashing and still no explanation about who benefited, financially I assume, from this info coming out about a juvenile. If this was your son, and he admitted his mistake, changed and straightened up, would you want his past regurgitated 10+ years later? Don't we give juveniles chances to get back on the right path any more? Or 30 years from now should the past be up in all our faces?

First of all, he didn't initiate the process of coming forward and admitting his mistake - it was exposed and he was confronted. Secondly, a mistake happens once - not repeatedly. Thirdly, we know more than ever about SO's behavior and what we do know is that serial sex offenders start offending when they are in their early/mid teens and have multiple victims before they even reach the age of 20. JD's sexual offenses were not singular, but multiple, and that places him within this category and makes him wholly capable of being a serial sex offender who could potentially have hundreds of victims by the time he reaches the age of 65. In regards to your question "if this was your son..."; if this was my son, he would be in long-term therapy and, regardless of self-professed claims of recovery/remorse, which SO's are very convincing at, it would be understood that I would never silently or passively stand by and allow him to ever be in any situation whereby a child was in jeopardy of him molesting them - EVER. So yeah, when you molest multiple children, even as a teen, it will be with you the rest of your life. And, for a SO who is truly and honestly serious about not reoffending, they would accept that and not expect anyone's blind trust ever again.

The "god forgave me so my sins are in the past and forgotten..." message, so often spoken by born again Christians, is a load of crap and only serves to offer up more child victims to the offender, like leading little lambs to the slaughter.


"Juveniles who Commit Sex Offenses Against Minors"
http://www.unh.edu/ccrc/pdf/CV171.pdf

"Child Molestors: A Behavioral Analysis"
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/149252NCJRS.pdf

 

[LibraStarr]

http://5newsonline.com/2015/08/05/...er-hacked-springdale-police-chiefs-computer/



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[Montjoy]

Josiah Duggar's courtship has ended:

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment...iah-duggars-courtship-ended/story?id=32896159

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...rs-parents-insist-split-step-Lord-s-will.html

The Duggars say that the end of the courtship is 'in step with the Lord's will'. Well, what isn't, given that the Lord is all-powerful?

It has to be God's will that:

-- Josh's molestation of children came into the public eye; it was no malice of the liberal media
-- companies dropped their sponsorship and their horrible TV show was cancelled
-- the majority of people who have an opinion consider Josh to be an incestuous pedophile child molester

I don't see how they can blame people in the public with political 'agendas' for going on a witch hunt. All of the shame on their family has got to be in step with the Lord's will (which they usually seem quite confident in being able to read).

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

19 Kids & Counting Cancelation Costs Discovery Communications $19 Million

Francesca Bacardi, eonline
11 hours ago

Discovery network lost a whole lot more than the Duggar family when it canceled TLC's hit show, 19 Kids & Counting.

In fact, the company lost $19 million, according to Chief Financial Officer Andrew Warren, per The Wrap . Warren revealed on a post-earnings conference call that "impairment charges of canceling TLC's 19 Kids & Counting " was the main reason for the big loss. TLC canceled the hit show only a few months after a molestation scandal surrounding Josh Duggar came to light.

"After thoughtful consideration, TLC and the Duggar family have decided to not move forward with 19 Kids and Counting," TLC said in a statement. "The show will no longer appear on the air. The recent attention around the Duggars has sparked a critical and important conversation about child protection."

TLC first pulled episodes from its rotation in May...

http://my.xfinity.com/articles/entertainment-eonline/20150805/b683624/

 

[Ixchel13]

(BBM)


First of all, he didn't initiate the process of coming forward and admitting his mistake - it was exposed and he was confronted. Secondly, a mistake happens once - not repeatedly. Thirdly, we know more than ever about SO's behavior and what we do know is that serial sex offenders start offending when they are in their early/mid teens and have multiple victims before they even reach the age of 20. JD's sexual offenses were not singular, but multiple, and that places him within this category and makes him wholly capable of being a serial sex offender who could potentially have hundreds of victims by the time he reaches the age of 65. In regards to your question "if this was your son..."; if this was my son, he would be in long-term therapy and, regardless of self-professed claims of recovery/remorse, which SO's are very convincing at, it would be understood that I would never silently or passively stand by and allow him to ever be in any situation whereby a child was in jeopardy of him molesting them - EVER. So yeah, when you molest multiple children, even as a teen, it will be with you the rest of your life. And, for a SO who is truly and honestly serious about not reoffending, they would accept that and not expect anyone's blind trust ever again.

The "god forgave me so my sins are in the past and forgotten..." message, so often spoken by born again Christians, is a load of crap and only serves to offer up more child victims to the offender, like leading little lambs to the slaughter.


"Juveniles who Commit Sex Offenses Against Minors"
http://www.unh.edu/ccrc/pdf/CV171.pdf

"Child Molestors: A Behavioral Analysis"
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/149252NCJRS.pdf

and by wendy:Quote Originally Posted by wendybtn View Post
I thought since people are still posting about this some new info must have come out. But no just FOX bashing and still no explanation about who benefited, financially I assume, from this info coming out about a juvenile. If this was your son, and he admitted his mistake, changed and straightened up, would you want his past regurgitated 10+ years later? Don't we give juveniles chances to get back on the right path any more? Or 30 years from now should the past be up in all our faces?


my reply:
BBM and awesome nomoresorrow!
It wasn't just that they covered it up and "Dug" themselves in until being dragged kicking and screaming into the public's eye, a public eye of their own making, btw; but; when it happened they turned him over as a minor to a child pervert to be counselled! That's like saying, "hey grown up Fox, I've got this young fox who's attacking chickens, can I send him to you for counselling?" Negligent parenting and illegal to place a minor child with a sex offender, whether registered or not!

and saying to us, "hey chickens, we're a bunch of foxes living with and
eating alot of our chickens. If you pay us, Can we show you how to keep your chickens safe ? sounds ridiculous, right?

and I guess that leads us to the bashing.....:thinking:

apart from being educational, and a warning to everyone out there,
it just feels good somehow to do it. just like MD is so fond of saying,
she doesn't hate gays but thinks they're goingto hell. In her smug, preachy way, she doesn't realize that's bashing. They bash others, people all over the world, by criticizing their lifestyles, good people that in their
all-encompassing ignorance, they don't even know.

This leads some usually turn-cheeking christians like me to say, "Not this time, not these people."

 

[Ixchel13]

http://5newsonline.com/2015/08/05/...er-hacked-springdale-police-chiefs-computer/

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Wow. Call me cynical, but this guy committed more than misdemeanor trespassing, when you consider all of the personal info he collected about other people via their evaluations; not to mention personal facts about crimes, things not available to the public, methods, etc of criminals and
just a plethora of things he shouldn't know about the inner workings of the police department. Such as names, addresses and phone numbers of people who put hundreds of criminals behind bars!Very sought after by the criminal element who sometimes have to suffice with just a police scanner! Also, he downloaded just one other person's complete files, but the chief's files will have everyone's passwords stored somewhere. This guy completely compromised the department. I'm just guessing that the other person hacked was the police attorney.
It's almost like the Chief is being not-so-subtly blackmailed by someone.
speculation: city IT guy gets bribed to download all of police chief's files,
and all of another co-worker's files, just so he could resign but not before making it clear that info on chief's computer could get her in big trouble. He gets a slap on the hand--not even a slap on the hand, weird.
Then, in case the Chief doesn't get the message, her subordinate makes sure the daily rag reports they were looking into it in case the Duggars were in those files. Is that not blackmail or am I just looking for it too hard?

To me, it seems as if these people won't rest until they dig a greater, bigger hole to collapse into and weave a more tanglier, more deceptive web. Jimmie Bob must be pulling out every stop to get his super-slimy self back on TV.
Edited to say, remember someone posted upthread the Duggar's attorney threatening the police department with a very expensive lawsuit.
Yes, IMO the Duggar machine is threatening the police chief.

I just think it's weird that Lt. Lewis repeated in the media what the hacker told another worker about the police Chief being "in hot water." That is far, far from SOP. Very clever, quoting what the hacker told another person; get the threat to the Chief by quoting a 3rd person, but if I caught it, I'm sure someone will
catch it too--like the FBI.

 

[TorisMom003]

I thought since people are still posting about this some new info must have come out. But no just FOX bashing and still no explanation about who benefited, financially I assume, from this info coming out about a juvenile. If this was your son, and he admitted his mistake, changed and straightened up, would you want his past regurgitated 10+ years later? Don't we give juveniles chances to get back on the right path any more? Or 30 years from now should the past be up in all our faces?

I'm trying to figure out why it matters "who benefited, financially, from this info coming about a juvenile". If someone I look up to has many hidden skeletons in their closet that were never properly taken care of (the person committing the crime was justly punished) and that someone is claiming that they are "good, moral Christian people" while others that they don't agree with are a danger to their own (and other) children then I'd want to know the truth.

JD never suffered any real punishment for what he repeatedly did. He is a real threat to all young girls in his presence, including his own daughters. He has never received any real counseling for what he did and neither did his victims (his four sisters didn't anyway). So yes, 10 years after the fact when this comes out then it needed to be revealed. Actually it should have been revealed and dealt with properly at the time. And my hypothetical son would have faced the consequences when it happened instead of me and my husband covering up for him and blaming his victims instead.

MOO

 

[TorisMom003]

19 Kids & Counting Cancelation Costs Discovery Communications $19 Million

Francesca Bacardi, eonline
11 hours ago

Discovery network lost a whole lot more than the Duggar family when it canceled TLC's hit show, 19 Kids & Counting.

In fact, the company lost $19 million, according to Chief Financial Officer Andrew Warren, per The Wrap . Warren revealed on a post-earnings conference call that "impairment charges of canceling TLC's 19 Kids & Counting " was the main reason for the big loss. TLC canceled the hit show only a few months after a molestation scandal surrounding Josh Duggar came to light.

"After thoughtful consideration, TLC and the Duggar family have decided to not move forward with 19 Kids and Counting," TLC said in a statement. "The show will no longer appear on the air. The recent attention around the Duggars has sparked a critical and important conversation about child protection."

TLC first pulled episodes from its rotation in May...

http://my.xfinity.com/articles/entertainment-eonline/20150805/b683624/

Good. I hope it hurts TLC a lot. They knew what had happened and decided to allow/help cover it up. They deserve punishment as well.

MOO

 

[Hez]

Good. I hope it hurts TLC a lot. They knew what had happened and decided to allow/help cover it up. They deserve punishment as well.

MOO

Come January, when I can re-structure my cable channels to just the ones I want to watch, TLC and all their crappy, tacky programming will be gone from my TV. Right now we are stuck with it because it comes in the same channel package as the Discovery Channel, which we still like to watch. :moo:

 

[wendybtn]

Seriously? If they made that much then they should be set for life. They may want to rethink about popping out twenty kids each in the future though. Ugh!!

Who would want to put their body through that? Who would want to try and spread their love and attention with all of those children? You can't be a mother and father to that many children...unless you pass them off to the other siblings. Is this some kind of obsessive/compulsive disorder? lol

Who would put their body throughout that? Thank God, probably some ancestor of yours or you would not be here today. Just because it is not average since 1960, does not mean that is all the world has ever known. Do a family tree. Lots of people had lots of kids and took better care of them than people with 2 kids today both working and using hired help for parents

 

[wendybtn]

I'm trying to figure out why it matters "who benefited, financially, from this info coming about a juvenile". If someone I look up to has many hidden skeletons in their closet that were never properly taken care of (the person committing the crime was justly punished) and that someone is claiming that they are "good, moral Christian people" while others that they don't agree with are a danger to their own (and other) children then I'd want to know the truth.

JD never suffered any real punishment for what he repeatedly did. He is a real threat to all young girls in his presence, including his own daughters. He has never received any real counseling for what he did and neither did his victims (his four sisters didn't anyway). So yes, 10 years after the fact when this comes out then it needed to be revealed. Actually it should have been revealed and dealt with properly at the time. And my hypothetical son would have faced the consequences when it happened instead of me and my husband covering up for him and blaming his victims instead.

MOO

But would you broadcast someone's juvenile life just to, honestly,I don't what. My two oldest children have had very minor dealings with juvenile justice locally. But once they matured, I would hate to think it could be thrown in their faces at any moment by anyone. Now if they re-offend again later, they get what they get. But since I cannot read long on here without getting hateful, I do not know if he re-offended or not. There is a certain glee on these anti certain religions and lifestyles threads that scare me.

 

[Montjoy]

Who would put their body throughout that? Thank God, probably some ancestor of yours or you would not be here today. Just because it is not average since 1960, does not mean that is all the world has ever known. Do a family tree. Lots of people had lots of kids and took better care of them than people with 2 kids today both working and using hired help for parents

No, you're mistaken. Sure, people did have larger families in the past, but even 10 kids would be well beyond the norm, even centuries ago. And I wouldn't celebrate such large families either -- they put the life of a mother in serious risk. Childbirth is risky, even (albeit minimally) today, but the risks increase incredibly astronomically as a woman ages and gives birth repeatedly. So, along with a lot of larger families in the past, there were a lot more women who never saw 40. I'm not going to 'thank God' for that.

 

[wendybtn]

Oh, and somebody motivated by hate or money or both revealed whatever documents are out there. If I did that at work, firing would be the least of my problems.

 

[Montjoy]

But would you broadcast someone's juvenile life just to, honestly,I don't what. My two oldest children have had very minor dealings with juvenile justice locally.

snipped and boldfaced by me

I agree with you about your kids, but I don't consider the repeated molestation of children to be a 'very minor dealing', especially when there is no evidence that the molester received even minimally adequate therapy/counseling/treatment for his problem.

 

[wendybtn]

No, you're mistaken. Sure, people did have larger families in the past, but even 10 kids would be well beyond the norm, even centuries ago. And I wouldn't celebrate such large families either -- they put the life of a mother in serious risk. Childbirth is risky, even (albeit minimally) today, but the risks increase incredibly astronomically as a woman ages and gives birth repeatedly. So, along with a lot of larger families in the past, there were a lot more women who never saw 40. I'm not going to 'thank God' for that.

My father, born in 1938, has 11 siblings and my grandmother lived into her nineties. Having fewer or more children is no guarantee of any certain length of life. And my family had multiple 10+ sibling families going back to the 1700s here in the states.

 

[wendybtn]

snipped and boldfaced by me

I agree with you about your kids, but I don't consider the repeated molestation of children to be a 'very minor dealing', especially when there is no evidence that the molester received even minimally adequate therapy/counseling/treatment for his problem.

I haven't followed closely enough to know about any of that. Nor am I certain Radar-On-Line is the bastion of honesty and journalistic integrity that the world needs.

 

[Hez]

No, you're mistaken. Sure, people did have larger families in the past, but even 10 kids would be well beyond the norm, even centuries ago. And I wouldn't celebrate such large families either -- they put the life of a mother in serious risk. Childbirth is risky, even (albeit minimally) today, but the risks increase incredibly astronomically as a woman ages and gives birth repeatedly. So, along with a lot of larger families in the past, there were a lot more women who never saw 40. I'm not going to 'thank God' for that.

There are over 7 billion people on Earth and the planet is going to quickly run out of resources as the population continues growing. I don't think any God meant for the Duggars and their ilk to procreate to the point that they use up every resource on the planet to the point that it can no longer sustain life. :facepalm:

 

[Hez]

I haven't followed closely enough to know about any of that. Nor am I certain Radar-On-Line is the bastion of honesty and journalistic integrity that the world needs.

BBM - Perhaps you should read up more before you come here and accuse posters of nothing more than Fox-bashing. There are official police documents and statements from the Duggar parents and the victims, that tell the whole story and it's not pretty. Nobody benefited from the legal release of this information. However, the Duggars and TLC benefited financially for years by keeping it covered up.