Armchair Psych Profile and JH's Background

[shadowraiths]

shadowraiths,

on your NIH grant link http://projectreporter.nih.gov/proj...ram=&ddvalue=&ddsub=&cr=17&csb=default&cs=ASC

Among the 35 graduate students as of the Fall of this year 65% are women, 14% underrepresented minorities or disabled and 9% are students from rural colleges and universities in the Rocky Mountain Region.


Disabled? Is JH one of them maybe?

Don't forget, "disabled" can mean anything from learning disabled to physically disabled. Importantly, there have been no reports that JH was classified as "disabled" (i.e., someone who qualified for SSDI).

 

[February]

What in the world would his disability be?

I dont know.....

 

[February]

Don't forget, "disabled" can mean anything from learning disabled to physically disabled. Importantly, there have been no reports that JH was classified as "disabled" (i.e., someone who qualified for SSDI).

Ok. Do you think he is disabled?

 

[jjenny]

I dont know.....

He appears to be a perfectly able Caucasian male. Neither female, minority, nor disabled.

 

[CARIIS]

It's a battle of mind experts whether he is insane or not
This is going to be hard to try but if they go to the jury, emotions will win IMO

I don't know - I don't think hell pass competency) BUT a Jury seeing 12 dead bodies , and hey gruesome , but evidently there was a lot of blood all over the place slipping in it jst -- even it ever made it that far.

 

[February]

He appears to be a perfectly able Caucasian male. Neither female, minority, nor disabled.

I dont think he is part of the 9% are students from rural colleges and universities in the Rocky Mountain Region too..

Is UCR a rural college? It isnt in the Rocky Mountain Region either.

 

[mister happy]

Isn't the insanity defense the hardest defense to float?

 

[CARIIS]

i think the notebook will outline some 'scientific' explanation
for a rift between reality and fiction that rationalized JH's
actions in his delusional mindset.
i do think he has a delusional disorder, which should not
impede justice for his actions, but explains how this person
could seem to flip like a switch. delusional people will go
great lengths to maintain their beliefs.

Indeed!

 

[Curious Me]

I remember that article where one of the victims describes JH yelling "I said stand up!" Can anybody find a link to put here?

 

[CARIIS]

Doubtful on the latter bc he had begun stock piling well before the exam. As for the former. If that package, did, indeed, sit in the mailroom for a week? I'm not sure they would really have a case. After all, mail room mixups happen. Unfortunately.

The big *however*.

Since we seem to be getting conflicting stories from the University, esp this bit ( link ):

About 11 hours after the attack, Barry Shur, dean of the graduate school at the university, sent an email to faculty, students and staff saying: "If anyone is contacted by the media, PLEASE refer them" to a school spokeswoman. Shur's email was released in response to an open records request from the AP.

Earlier this week, Shur denied trying to prohibit those who knew Holmes from talking.

"We told them they are fully free to interact with the media," he said at a press conference Monday.​

I admittedly question the university's latest claims. Esp considering they're so mixed ( link ):

The University of Colorado Denver issued a statement Wednesday evening confirming that a suspicious package was found, but called the July 12 timeline "inaccurate." The university said it was delivered Monday and found on the same day.

When told of the university's statement, a source said the package may have been postmarked on July 12, but arrived before the massacre.​

This behavior, together, leaves me wondering... did the prof receive the notebook? Not take it seriously (i.e., blow it off), and then the massacre occurs, so now they're trying to cover it up? If so, I certainly could see possible lawsuits... though, I'm still not sure how valid they would be.

then the massacre occurs, so now they're trying to cover it up?

From day one first time I saw that gang "Felt" like BS! Just gut - then more and more nfo pls, Dont remember source but I remember earlier a faculity member saying we got email advising not to talk - thats just not academia!

Oh I hate it when this happens I smell fish !

 

[shadowraiths]

Ok. Do you think he is disabled?

Ethically speaking, unlike the talking heads, I won't be putting forth any sort of diagnostic opinion. Armchair, or otherwise.

I dont think he is part of the 9% are students from rural colleges and universities in the Rocky Mountain Region too..

Is UCR a rural college? It isnt in the Rocky Mountain Region either.

UC Denver is in the Rocky Mountain Region. And don't forget, remaining 14% would be caucasian males.

 

[jjenny]

Ethically speaking, unlike the talking heads, I won't be putting forth any sort of diagnostic opinion. Armchair, or otherwise.


UC Denver is in the Rocky Mountain Region. And don't forget, remaining 14% would be caucasian males.

Since some of the females could also be minority/disabled, % of Caucasian males could be higher.

 

[February]

Ethically speaking, unlike the talking heads, I won't be putting forth any sort of diagnostic opinion. Armchair, or otherwise.


UC Denver is in the Rocky Mountain Region. And don't forget, remaining 14% would be caucasian males.

Got it I thought they based it from UCR where he came from

 

[CARIIS]

Everybody reported that the package was not opened and still in mailroom. No professor received it.

That came out later IMO, they knew all along (that is the coverup) protecting the psychiatrist. Speculation: Can you imagine when one of admins psychiatrist calls admin that night and says - whatever his name is! Bob I was treating him.Or I had treated him , oh boy oh boy.........

 

[JBean]

then the massacre occurs, so now they're trying to cover it up?

From day one first time I saw that gang "Felt" like BS! Just gut - then more and more nfo pls, Dont remember source but I remember earlier a faculity member saying we got email advising not to talk - thats just not academia!

Oh I hate it when this happens I smell fish !

PLease do not point to the university at this time. There is nothing to support a claim of impropriety on their part that was a factor in Holmes shooting innocent people.
If it comes out they knew he would do this and did not tell anyone- then things could change. But until such time it is not a founded accusation. Let's wait for more info.
Thanks.

 

[jjenny]

Got it I thought they based it from UCR where he came from

Yes, they would base it on undergraduate education, so he wouldn't be from Rocky Mountain Region.
He is most likely simply classified as a white male.

 

[CARIIS]

remembering the va tech again...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seung-Hui_Cho

In the aftermath of the Virginia Tech massacre, Virginia Governor Tim Kaine convened a panel consisting of various officials and experts to investigate and examine the response and handling of issues related to the shootings. The panel released its final report in August 2007, devoting more than 30 pages to detailing Cho's troubled history. In the report, the panel criticized the failure of the educators and mental health professionals who came into contact with Cho during his college years to notice his deteriorating condition and help him. The panel also criticized misinterpretations of privacy laws and gaps in Virginia's mental health system and gun laws. In addition, the panel faulted Virginia Tech administrators in particular for failing to take immediate action after the first shootings. Nevertheless, the report did acknowledge that Cho was still primarily responsible for not seeking assistance and for his murderous rampage

And this piece from your piece !

The panel also criticized misinterpretations of privacy laws and gaps in Virginia's mental health system and gun laws.

Virginia Tech fined $55000 in 2007 shooting rampage - CNN





articles.cnn.com/.../virginia.tech.fine_1_shooting-rampage-clery-act-...


Mar 29, 2011 – Virginia Tech will be fined $55000 for waiting too long to provide timely warnings about a shooter on the loose during a 2007 rampage in which........

 

[shadowraiths]

Isn't the insanity defense the hardest defense to float?

After hinckley, NGRI became very hard to win. As it stands today, less than 1% of cases that go to trial involve an NGRI defense. And of those, yes, they are very hard to win.

In fact, if you have time, I urge you to check out the case of Ralph Tortorici, which was covered by PBS ( link ). It was an extremely tragic case, where, imho, justice was not served. Importantly, it clarifies just what NGRI cases are actually up against.

That said, imho, the primary problem is, people often confuse mental illness with legal insanity. Our prisons are full of mentally ill criminals who do not meet the criteria for legal insanity.

Even so, arguably, the conditions exacerbate their illness, which in turn, imho, plays a role with increased risk wrt recidivism.

Still, our society, specifically, the american society, tends to strongly hold the eye-for-an-eye mentality. So, you end up with states abolishing NGRI completely, while forgetting the reason it exists in the first place.

 

[Curious Me]

EXCLUSIVE: Massacre suspect James Holmes' gun-range application drew red flag

"That also struck me as very, very strange,” Rotkovich said. “Who says ‘Cheers?’”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/2...cation-drew-red-flag-for-owner/#ixzz21np3k1gy

 

[jjenny]

EXCLUSIVE: Massacre suspect James Holmes' gun-range application drew red flag

"That also struck me as very, very strange,” Rotkovich said. “Who says ‘Cheers?’”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/2...cation-drew-red-flag-for-owner/#ixzz21np3k1gy

Lots of people from the academia say Cheers, actually. I guess they don't normally go to the gun-range.