ARREST!!! Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 -#24

[marlywings]

I think the reason Gerard is in the observation ward, is because that damn phone had to be surgically removed from his ear.

nothing to do with his mental state at all. Just waiting till the scar heals.

How he is managing without it, is a matter for real apprehension.. not well. I reckon.

He would have had internet access also in whatever shape or form when he had the one man band thing going on at the Toowong office.

 

[Aunty]

GBC certainly had phone access in the earlier days...just about every photo of him shows a phone glued to his ear. I still wonder if he used a hospital phone after he was admitted for a couple of days after the infamous car crash.

I'd bet any money the family had access to internet...their friends certainly did..from another post back in a previous thread...

"the person that I got my information from stopped looking at Websleuths because they are too close to the BCs and realised that most of the stuff being written was absolutely NOT right."

I agree with you , but maybe they have stuck their heads in the sand and didn't want to face that GBC could do such a thing.
Maybe they didn't want to ask friends for Internet access, it would be very confronting to be told to bugger off.
If I was a friend I wouldn't want them sitting at my computer :what: for fear of the police searching my home and taking my computers etc.
It is obvious that very movement they make the police would be watching.
Every sneeze etc.
They would know that their every movement would used in evidence against their son .
They are quite old and the stress would effect their health too, so I think it is acceptable that they didn't know about the rules at the watchhouse.
:fence:

 

[marlywings]

You would recieve 1 or maybe 2 depending on your behaviour phone call in your first couple of days at Gorrie and that would be supervised, until such time as your Intel is set up, your numbers you want to call cleared and monies placed in your phone account, some 3 - 4 weeks, everyone is treated the same

Yes I've read that...in my previous post though I mentioned when he was admitted to hospital for those couple of days after the car crash, two days after Allison was reported missing...I wonder if he perhaps used a hospital phone to phone home or whoever.

 

[marlywings]

I think just the opposite, Plenty... isnt diversity terrific?? :rocker:

I think that family has been cleaning up after Gerards messes all his life.. poor Gerard.. propping him up, paying this and that off, doing his tax returns, getting him into a business where they could keep an eye on him and his fiscal nincompoopery.. trying to keep a tight leash, which of course, has to be loosened every now and then, eg.. Toni and the cavalcade of extra women in his disorganised scattered life.. no way was he going to be allowed to have a free reign at his franchise, Gerard needs supervision at all times. Get him on this committee, that board, this charity... maintain the facade at all costs.

"Maintain the facade at all costs"....and used the Baden-Powell connection whenever & wherever it suited them.

 

[plentyofnous]

I wonder whether he , GBC that is , will make an appearance at the Bail hearing, and whether a decision will be made that day

 

[kalamityk]

Also - may have used hospital computers - it seemed very convenient to have an accident and be admitted to hospital even though only 'a little bit hurt' at a time when he was certain to be watched (just my humble opinion )

 

[marlywings]

On the topic of demanding/abuse but off topic as it's a completely different case...did anyone see the abuse dished out to a supreme court judge last week???....:notgood:hwow:

Foul-mouth jailed for attempted murder
15th June 2012

WARNING: STRONG LANGUAGE

AN explosion of filthy language more likely to be heard in a bar or on a rugby field than in a supreme court spewed from the mouth of a man on attempted murder charges

http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/story/2012/06/14/accused-goes-foul-mouthed-rampage/

 

[Sleuthilicious]

BBM

Yes, Olivia was present at Allison's funeral (see link to the photo).

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/05/11/1226353/186292-allison-baden-clay.jpg

I know it's I'm grasping at straws here. But could that possibly be Allison's best friend OW is embracing? If so, it. It could be suggested that she didn't believe OW was at all involved and believed OW to be truly grieving the loss of a loved SIL. I truly hope so as I don't really want those poor little girls to find further involvement in their Mums death from loved family members.

 

[angel1]

You would recieve 1 or maybe 2 depending on your behaviour phone call in your first couple of days at Gorrie and that would be supervised, until such time as your Intel is set up, your numbers you want to call cleared and monies placed in your phone account, some 3 - 4 weeks, everyone is treated the same

I don't know about the brisbane jail. My brother is on remand until he gets bail in july. He has access to a phone as he is allowed to make 1 call a day. He can also access facebook from there (that's the only way i can contact him). He also works in the gym there i don't think all jails are as strict as others may be. Last time he was locked up for driving offences he was able to get an outside job too. But this time he is in a different jail which means he can't do an outside job/course but he can work inside the jail

 

[Aunty]

Also - may have used hospital computers - it seemed very convenient to have an accident and be admitted to hospital even though only 'a little bit hurt' at a time when he was certain to be watched (just my humble opinion )

Hey sweetie ,x if you are discussing the watchouse tantrums of the Senor BCs , I was referring to the BC seniors not GBC . A little confused sorry. :fence:
I was saying : It was about them not knowing the rules concerning visiting the watchouse , and their apparent ( msm reports) anger at being told they couldn't see GBC when they arrived there after he was charged.
Some people here think they should have known about the rules via Internet or sol advice. I was just saying that maybe they didn't have access to Internet for various reasons .
All good . Thanks x

 

[marlywings]

I know it's I'm grasping at straws here. But could that possibly be Allison's best friend OW is embracing? If so, it. It could be suggested that she didn't believe OW was at all involved and believed OW to be truly grieving the loss of a loved SIL. I truly hope so as I don't really want those poor little girls to find further involvement in their Mums death from loved family members.

No I don't think it's Kerry-Anne in the photo you mentioned...

http://www.couriermail.com.au/ipad/mums-day-card-put-on-coffin-by-girls/story-fn6ck45n-1226353762569

 

[YoureNicked]

I know it's I'm grasping at straws here. But could that possibly be Allison's best friend OW is embracing? If so, it. It could be suggested that she didn't believe OW was at all involved and believed OW to be truly grieving the loss of a loved SIL. I truly hope so as I don't really want those poor little girls to find further involvement in their Mums death from loved family members.

No, I don't think it's Kerry Ann whom Olivia is embracing in the funeral photo. In this photo (see link below) I think Kerry Ann is wearing green and it looks like the lady that Kerry Ann has her arm around might be the one Olivia is embracing. It's difficult to tell exactly who the women in this linked photo are though as their entire faces aren't shown in this photo. Am just guessing from looking at the colours of the clothes the unknown lady is wearing in both photos.

But yes, in the photo posted earlier, where Olivia is embracing the lady, she (Olivia) certainly looks as if she is genuinely grieving the loss of her sister in law.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/gallery-e6frer9f-1226353110367?page=8

 

[kalamityk]

Hey sweetie ,x if you are discussing the watchouse tantrums of the Senor BCs , I was referring to the BC seniors not GBC . A little confused sorry. :fence:
I was saying : It was about them not knowing the rules concerning visiting the watchouse , and their apparent ( msm reports) anger at being told they couldn't see GBC when they arrived there after he was charged.
Some people here think they should have known about the rules via Internet or sol advice. I was just saying that maybe they didn't have access to Internet for various reasons .
All good . Thanks x

Hi Aunty - no I was referring to a previous post about GBC maybe using hospital phones when he was in hospital just after Allison was reported missing - I was just saying that he could have used the opportunity to do some more Googling without being observed or traced (JMO)

 

[marlywings]

Hi Aunty - no I was referring to a previous post about GBC maybe using hospital phones when he was in hospital just after Allison was reported missing - I was just saying that he could have used the opportunity to do some more Googling without being observed or traced (JMO)

Then also there are internet cafes in just about every suburb...GBC was out & about in earlier days so he could have accessed those too...just my opinon.

 

[Newbie1]

If you are paying an expensive lawyer, I think you would ask those questions, but, I am thinking that maybe, just maybe , I am giving BC s too much benefit of the doubt, I assumed that they were switched on , up with it so to speak, , now I am thinking that IMO possibly GBC was controlling everything, keep parents in dark, I ll fix it Mum, , lets face it, anyone can complete a business degree online at USQ, and you can gain your Real Estate Licence in a week. Don t need to be a member of mensa. MO only

I think it was probably called DDIAE in the days he studied there. And respectfully, after completing a 2 hr exam for a Bachelor of Commerce this morning through USQ, I may not be a member of Mensa (but have a GPA of 6.25 for BSc at UQ), but your post felt a bit derogatory IMO. Living in regional QLD doesn't give me too many options. Other than that, I enjoy your posts immensely!

 

[possumheart]

I think it was probably called DDIAE in the days he studied there. And respectfully, after completing a 2 hr exam for a Bachelor of Commerce this morning through USQ, I may not be a member of Mensa (but have a GPA of 6.25 for BSc at UQ), but your post felt a bit derogatory IMO. Living in regional QLD doesn't give me too many options. Other than that, I enjoy your posts immensely!

Correct about DDIAE (or even UcSQ) at that time.
Correct about academic standards.
Hope you feel better after your exam.
respectfully ...

 

[factfinda]

I think perhaps Marlywings that what you are saying is what I am referring to. There does not seem to be impartiality in the reporting. That may be what I am wrongly calling "sensationalism".

Journalists personal feelings are coming through in the reporting and I don't thin that is right.

I can't recall any instances where I've thought the journalist's personal feelings were evident in the story - but I could be wrong. Maybe another way to look at what has been reported is to consider what was available (and legal) to report on at the time.

In a hypothetical example, let's say Family A has worked alongside police and the media, has been interviewed several times, has released statements, and has appeared very willing to find a resolution to the situation. So, the media reports on this for the simple reason that all of the above has actually occurred and they can legally publish it.

Then, let's say Family B has not appeared at command posts, has not released any statements, or agreed to be interviewed. Let's also hypothesise that Family B has made it very clear there could be legal ramifications if the media oversteps the mark with them. Therefore, the media has very limited information, if any, to present on this family's behalf to "support" their situation (in an attempt to cover both sides of the story).

Therefore, IMO, if the stories appear to lack impartiality then it might be solely because their reportage reflects the information they have been given - or are legally able to publish/broadcast.

 

[YoureNicked]

Then also there are internet cafes in just about every suburb...GBC was out & about in earlier days so he could have accessed those too...just my opinon.

Given the intense interest police showed from the very beginning in Allison's disappearance I would not be surprised if there were undercover police tailing Gerard every time he left the house. Hopefully, if this was the case, any internet searching or emailing he did from cafes, other people's houses would have been followed up.

His apparent reluctance to divulge much to the police and his early summoning of a lawyer however indicates a defensive stance on his part and so I think if this was the case and he felt that he was under suspicion or being watched, that any communication he made would have been via public telephone or some means which couldn't be traced.

MOO! MOO! MOO!

 

[plentyofnous]

I think it was probably called DDIAE in the days he studied there. And respectfully, after completing a 2 hr exam for a Bachelor of Commerce this morning through USQ, I may not be a member of Mensa (but have a GPA of 6.25 for BSc at UQ), but your post felt a bit derogatory IMO. Living in regional QLD doesn't give me too many options. Other than that, I enjoy your posts immensely!

I apologise if that is what you percieved to be my thoughts, I wasn t at all trying to down play someone achieving a University qualification at all, I am simply trying to comprehend the "image/persona" that the media have used. That this guy is a mover/shaker, runs a large entity, controls heaps of staff, bachelor degree, Chamber President, Scout Founder ancestor, etc.
They have made him into a well to do achiever who has fallen. My point is that , IMO he is none of them if you look at the other end of the scale. He could have scraped through Uni with a low GPA, I think there was discussion he didn t complete, and that just about anyone can do a weeks course and apply for a Real Estate Licence in a matter of weeks , anyone can nominate for Chamber president, usually smart Business types will let someone else do all the work and let themselves attend as members, and he is related simply by birth.

IMO and I add I don t know him , he is no rocket scientist, and certainly seems to own nothing, where is all his dough and friends

Further, IMO, I wouldn t be surprised if he used one of his famous script writers for that speech at Kenmore High, namely a Mr CopyandPaste

Please accept my sincere apologies if you misinterpreted my post, A GPA of 6.25 is admirable, and certainly a brilliant achievment , I applaud you

 

[SapphireSteel]

Given the intense interest police showed from the very beginning in Allison's disappearance I would not be surprised if there were undercover police tailing Gerard every time he left the house. Hopefully, if this was the case, any internet searching or emailing he did from cafes, other people's houses would have been followed up.

His apparent reluctance to divulge much to the police and his early summoning of a lawyer however indicates a defensive stance on his part and so I think if this was the case and he felt that he was under suspicion or being watched, that any communication he made would have been via public telephone or some means which couldn't be traced.

MOO! MOO! MOO!

There would have been, from Day One.

There was never another suspect.

The day this story first broke my first thought was "not another one" - meaning, not another spousal murder!

WHYYYYY do they think they can get away with it? Because they think they are SMART and the police are STUPID. Vanity and conceit.

I have nothing but praise for the Qld police. Such a rapid arrest means essentially, he's guilty and they have rock solid proof. That is why he presented himself to the Police Station to be arrested. He knows he's been caught. I suppose we should be thankful he didn't decide his kids were a problem as well.

Stupid, stupid, evil man. How many lives ruined just because HE didn't want to pay for a divorce? I hope they put him in gen pop and throw away the key...him and his bint.