Sadly, the world is full of people who watch that video, and other videos that are even worse, for some sort of titillation, but they are not on this website. I have watched it because I don't take the word of other people about anything. I am the type of person that makes up my own mind about things because everyone views things from their own perspective, and people are good at over or under exaggerating things. This video was not over exaggerated, and is without a doubt one of the worse things I have ever seen. I have barely slept since this case started. I think it is VERY valid to try and figure out what kind of dog it was. Where did he get it to start with? Where is the dog now?? The dog is part of the evidence, and I don't see that discussing it and trying to figure it out is nitpicking it. Cudo's to the Facebook group that nitpicked over the kitten videos for the last two years! I sure wish someone had listened to them. LE wants to have the video taken down from the Bestgore website, and I certainly have no issues with that. I think it is delusional to think that removing it from that one website will make it go away. One of the things I hate, hate, hate the most about what happened to Jun Lin and the kittens is that they will forever be victimized by those videos because they will always be someplace on the internet. We have a long, long, way to go in this case, and sadly, I don't think we have seen the end of what LM placed out into the world. Glad you are here with us at WS's - you obviously care. :twocents: