ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - # 9

[LambChop]

JMO

But judging from the description about the photos on the camera, I don't think he is shy

Well, you certainly have a point there. lol

 

[redheadedgal]

robyn's close friend lianne provides her name for this interview and contradicts the "sneaky drinking" accusation... she also comments about use of ambien during the day... surely she would've known if robyn was ever woozy or "high" during the daytime ??

not buying it.


Delawter also addressed allegations by an unnamed friend that said Robyn was a "sneaky drinker."

"Her drinking wasn’t excessive or concerning. She drank but it was not out of control," Delawter told RadarOnline.com. "It wasn’t anything her friends worried about. Everyone drinks, especially on holiday.

"I’ve never heard of her take ambien in the middle of day either. I don’t know if Robyn ever took it."


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...a-further-60-days-robyn-gardner-missing-aruba
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[Dushi]

And yet, her at RF had major issues with alcohol
So much so, that police had to be called

Go figure

 

[redheadedgal]

Why would she have a prescription if she didn't regularly take the medication?

you'll have to ask her ?

Where does the part about GG slipping her a pill come from? She had the prescription, so no one needed to slip her her own medication ... she was doing that.

no-- we don't know she was "doing that" and we don't know she took one on her own accord that day... we only have GG's* statement she did.

*GG = LIAR, ABUSER, THIEF, GUILTY OF FRAUD etc !!!

Her family is quoted in witness statements as saying that she was sneaking drinks

her close friend lianne contradicts this accusation... see previous post

my response in bold

 

[redheadedgal]

There's no reason to assume that GG had anything to do with her prescription medication, but there's every reason to believe that Robyn willingly consumed her own medication.

i don't understand this "reasoning" at all...

GG -as has been posted numerous times- has been outted (and even previously convicted) as a

*liar
*abuser
*fraud
*thief

... yet we have absolutely no proof RG took any pills voluntarily that day. the only "evidence" of this is GG** (saying she did).

**see single * above

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

i don't understand this "reasoning" at all...

GG -as has been posted numerous times- has been outted (and even previously convicted) as a

*liar
*abuser
*fraud
*thief

... yet we have absolutely no proof RG took any pills voluntarily that day. the only "evidence" of this is GG** (saying she did).

**see single * above

....and liar,abuser,fraud, and thief does NOT automatically make him a murderer. At least in a court of law that that is what we would be asked to consider.
....and we have absolutely no proof RG DID NOT take pills voluntarily that day, either, right?

 

[Dushi]

....and liar,abuser,fraud, and thief does NOT automatically make him a murderer. At least in a court of law that that is what we would be asked to consider.
....and we have absolutely no proof RG DID NOT take pills voluntarily that day, either, right?

No proof whatsoever
No proof who wanted to go into the water, if that happened
We have no proof a crime ever happened

We have a missing woman and a man with a bad reputation and INCONSISTENTCIES and many opinions

 

[LambChop]

....and liar,abuser,fraud, and thief does NOT automatically make him a murderer. At least in a court of law that that is what we would be asked to consider.
....and we have absolutely no proof RG DID NOT take pills voluntarily that day, either, right?

Hard to prove when one can no longer speak. "and liar,abuser,fraud, and thief does NOT automatically make him a murderer" it just makes him a prime suspect in two countries. jmo

 

[Dushi]

Oh and Lambchop?
What link were you looking for?
I may be able to help

 

[Dushi]

Hard to prove when one can no longer speak. "and liar,abuser,fraud, and thief does NOT automatically make him a murderer" it just makes him a prime suspect in two countries. jmo

Yes!! Thats exactly what he is

 

[otto]

Not sure why police would be taking a statement from a relative in a matter that took place in Aruba. This is an Aruban and FBI issue presently, not a local police issue. That sounds a little strange to me. Can you link this article????? If not, it's just not credible. We can see from the video that they were both drinking and GG admits to drinking. He is the only source that said she took a pill and yet he "supposedly" encouraged her to go into the water....not once, but twice. He claims he was sober, drinking moderately. So was he sober and stupid, or was he drunk and neglegent????

The man is 50 years old, runs his own company so suddenly he loses all common sense? I don't think so, it's all just way to convenient when there's a 1.5m dollar prize waiting in the wings. jmo

I don't see anything strange about the victim's relative's talking with police in Aruba. The article is linked on the last page ... ABC News ... right at the beginning of this particular discussion about this linked information.

 

[otto]

RG is not under investigation. LE know she was drinking. They know, according to GG that she supposedly took a sleeping pill. All information comes from GG who is less than a credible witness. All you have to do is provide the link and we will all know. Plus if she took a pill earlier in the day would she still be woosie??? Her pills were in the room. If she were taking more than one a day she'd go through them pretty fast. Thanks jmo

The information about Robyn's prescription being found in the hotel comes from police and the information about Robyn drinking is from family witness statements.

I have provided the link. Do you want me to look for it and provide it again?

 

[otto]

While I was searching around for a link, I came across this, which may eliminate any possibility that Robyn was unwilingly drugged by GG:

"The witness statements also reveal more about Gardner. A friend and family member told police she was a "sneaky drinker," according to the witness statement.

Police also found Ambien, the sleep medication, prescribed to Gardner in the Marriott Hotel room where she was staying with Giordano. Giordano told police that he saw Gardner take a sleeping pill the day he claims they went snorkeling and she never returned.

Witnesses who saw Gardner the day she vanished described her as drunk and woozy.

The family member who told police she drank heavily said she was close to confronting Gardner about her allegedly excessive drinking."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-judge-orders-robyn-gardner-suspect-stay-jail/story?id=14418807

from post 1185 ... regarding the link that was originally provided and then subsequently requested.

 

[LambChop]

from post 1185 ... regarding the link that was originally provided and then subsequently requested.

But those close to her said she wasn't so is this person hypercritical of RG? Some people can't stand the fact that someone might like to drink. Obviously they were both drinking. And if GG knew her well enough to know she should not have gone in the water because she had been drinking and was woozie he should have stopped her. He has never let a woman stand in his way before and has physically restrained them when it was for his benefit. So why would he watch someone he "deeply cared about" go out into the water when she was not in control of herself. When you love someone you don't let them put themselves in a dangerous position. Maybe it's just as simple as it just never happened that way. At least that is what the evidence indicates now with no body coming into shore.

There are a list of inconsistencies and you can sit and justify every single one with an excuse that singlely you might buy.....but when you go down that list and look at all of them, you just can't buy into it. Common sense tells you there's something rotten in Denmark. jmo

 

[LambChop]

I don't see anything strange about the victim's relative's talking with police in Aruba. The article is linked on the last page ... ABC News ... right at the beginning of this particular discussion about this linked information.

Yes, I saw that.

 

[LambChop]

Oh and Lambchop?
What link were you looking for?
I may be able to help

Otto provided it for me. Thanks

 

[imamaze]

Personal shots are not allowed here! It is our TOS to argue the post and NOT attack the poster.

Ima

 

[otto]

But those close to her said she wasn't so is this person hypercritical of RG? Some people can't stand the fact that someone might like to drink. Obviously they were both drinking. And if GG knew her well enough to know she should not have gone in the water because she had been drinking and was woozie he should have stopped her. He has never let a woman stand in his way before and has physically restrained them when it was for his benefit. So why would he watch someone he "deeply cared about" go out into the water when she was not in control of herself. When you love someone you don't let them put themselves in a dangerous position. Maybe it's just as simple as it just never happened that way. At least that is what the evidence indicates now with no body coming into shore.

There are a list of inconsistencies and you can sit and justify every single one with an excuse that singlely you might buy.....but when you go down that list and look at all of them, you just can't buy into it. Common sense tells you there's something rotten in Denmark. jmo

Why would a family member be hyper-critical of Robyn when she is missing?

 

[Dushi]

Why would a family member be hyper-critical of Robyn when she is missing?

I don't see it as hyper- critical
The truth if in fact it is the truth, is not always pretty

Perhaps this family member felt the truth, if it is, would be more beneficial to the investigation

 

[Dushi]

But those close to her said she wasn't so is this person hypercritical of RG? Some people can't stand the fact that someone might like to drink. Obviously they were both drinking. And if GG knew her well enough to know she should not have gone in the water because she had been drinking and was woozie he should have stopped her. He has never let a woman stand in his way before and has physically restrained them when it was for his benefit. So why would he watch someone he "deeply cared about" go out into the water when she was not in control of herself. When you love someone you don't let them put themselves in a dangerous position. Maybe it's just as simple as it just never happened that way. At least that is what the evidence indicates now with no body coming into shore.

There are a list of inconsistencies and you can sit and justify every single one with an excuse that singlely you might buy.....but when you go down that list and look at all of them, you just can't buy into it. Common sense tells you there's something rotten in Denmark. jmo[/QUOTE]


MPO is that there was no love or deep caring involved in this relationship, regardless of what GG says

This was not about any of those things, far more primal

And I do agree,something stinks here

I am just not sure what the story is

Regardless of what anyone thinks about my opinions, (and the truth is , I don't care) I have not made up my mind, its that simple

If you care to check, i have never said I think he is innocent or guilty of all charges

I just think all things need to be viewed from all points

Sort of a reality check, if you get my drift