ATLANTIC CITY SK: possible link to LISK and GB4?

[LikeAHunter]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/20/atlantic-city-authorities-eye-more-than-one-person-interest-in-2006-unsolved/

Oleson submitted DNA samples to authorities, but no forensic match has been made between Oleson and the victims, according to his attorney, James Leonard.

“To date, we’ve never heard what the results are but I think you can draw those conclusions,” said Leonard, who, with Oleson, spoke to Fox News in a sit-down interview. “We wouldn’t be sitting here today if Mr. Oleson’s DNA linked him in any way, shape or form to any of these women.”

Sounds like they have DNA evidence. I think this happens a lot, where important evidence is held back from MSM.

 

[topratedsleuth]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/20/atlantic-city-authorities-eye-more-than-one-person-interest-in-2006-unsolved/

Informative article, don't think I'd seen that one before. On a side note, I just learned that the AC murderer is referred to as the Eastbound Strangler.

 

[Just K]

TO's attorney, hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm he has had some very colorful cases. A few years ago, some of us looked at his "associates" and affiliations... it was very interesting... to say the least.

 

[LindsayLohan6]

I wonder how eldridge, which is what denise hill said the rivermans name was figures into this. I'm also interested in the two men from 'howard beach', i think HA met them and described them as two men from brooklyn....one man when describing mug shots shown by AC police described two men in the mug shots he was shown...one man was described as having big ears....anyone remember this?

 

[LindsayLohan6]

PS...I had forgotten about terry oleson and the DNA sample they had to compare his to. This had not really been discussed by us. IF they have dna for G4 they would be able to compare it to AC and that might be the reason that years ago...the lead detective from ac stated he was positive AC and G4 were same killer

 

[Just K]

PS...I had forgotten about terry oleson and the DNA sample they had to compare his to. This had not really been discussed by us. IF they have dna for G4 they would be able to compare it to AC and that might be the reason that years ago...the lead detective from ac stated he was positive AC and G4 were same killer

Exactly!!! AC PD DOES believe there is a connection. AC is what brought me here, initially. The number 4 seemed significant as well.

 

[LindsayLohan6]

Exactly!!! AC PD DOES believe there is a connection. AC is what brought me here, initially. The number 4 seemed significant as well.

thanks just k..yes its always scoffed at by most here but I highly doubt the lead detective would inaccurately state TO MSM they ARE the same killer.

 

[LikeAHunter]

PS...I had forgotten about terry oleson and the DNA sample they had to compare his to. This had not really been discussed by us. IF they have dna for G4 they would be able to compare it to AC and that might be the reason that years ago...the lead detective from ac stated he was positive AC and G4 were same killer

Do you have a link? I'd love to read what he has to say...

 

[LindsayLohan6]

Wish I could find it....it's buried in the archives here somewhere. It was from a video interview that the detective did

 

[Theforeigner]

Here is a link to the Dark Minds "EASTBOUND STRANGLER" episode about the AC4 / Atlantic city serial killer murders.

But note that some of the info is not correct especially the part starting at ca 37:00, that whole story, supposedly taken place ca 1 week prior to the AC4 victims were found, is IMO just bull....!
The "witness" says she believe the two bodies lying in the motel bed, was Barbara Breidor and Tracy Ann Taylor, two of the AC4 victims, BUT Barbara Breidor disappeared October 17, and Kim Raffo was last seen Nov 19, the day before she was found dead, basicly LOTS of what this "witness says just dont add upp at all."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_VF9ZRqXfc

34:40 into the video Kim Raffo's x-husband HA is interviewed, that interview end at 36:55

As I have pointed out in another thread, HA is also in this interview contradicting himself.

I would like to know your thoughts about that interview.

 

[CriminalMinds]

The sketch is from Denise Hill's description of the "River Man" AC 2006. The whole time he was with her, Denise said, he wore the sunglasses and hat. She also said he had a thing for her shoes...she even gave him a pair of her shoes.

while i would say the sketch resembles HA,(also looks a lottt like RB) it always puzzled me about the part of her quote that is alwayzzz overlooked and never mentioned, and the sketch goes against her own words ..."white, greasy-haired, potbellied guy with a scruffy beard,” who frightened her by bragging about having killed some people.---very possible she had encounters with HA and RB(possibly MH), and confused who said what to her when, causing the HA image to be the sketch info given, but remembering the words that RB(or possibly MH) used that scared her

 

[CriminalMinds]

Here is a link to the Dark Minds "EASTBOUND STRANGLER" episode about the AC4 / Atlantic city serial killer murders.

But note that some of the info is not correct especially the part starting at ca 37:00, that whole story, supposedly taken place ca 1 week prior to the AC4 victims were found, is IMO just bull....!
The "witness" says she believe the two bodies lying in the motel bed, was Barbara Breidor and Tracy Ann Taylor, two of the AC4 victims, BUT Barbara Breidor disappeared October 17, and Kim Raffo was last seen Nov 19, the day before she was found dead, basicly LOTS of what this "witness says just dont add upp at all."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_VF9ZRqXfc

34:40 into the video Kim Raffo's x-husband HA is interviewed, that interview end at 36:55

As I have pointed out in another thread, HA is also in this interview contradicting himself.

I would like to know your thoughts about that interview.

yes, odd, too, that at one point on social media(which i think later was yanked or self-deleted)he said something like "the harbor strangler" killed KR, *before* any such term was used by LE in association to the killings.....

 

[LindsayLohan6]

anybody find a Beyond the Boardwalk link yet? I'd love to see that!

 

[Theforeigner]

yes, odd, too, that at one point on social media(which i think later was yanked or self-deleted)he said something like "the harbor strangler" killed KR, *before* any such term was used by LE in association to the killings.....

Yes, HA did that, Nov 25th, 2006, only 5 days after Kim Raffo, and the other 3 girls was found murdered!!!

http://www.voy.com/16607/83.html

 

[LindsayLohan6]

Yes, HA did that, Nov 25th, 2006, only 5 days after Kim Raffo, and the other 3 girls was found murdered!!!

http://www.voy.com/16607/83.html

nice find, i tried looking for any references to the harbor strangler or even the strangler at all but nothing came up before nov 25 2006. However if HA was in AC he might have seen some local news paper that penned the name "black horse strangler, harbor strangler something strangler". Can you find any references at all to the killer being nicknamed the strangler prior to nov 25 2006?

 

[Theforeigner]

nice find, i tried looking for any references to the harbor strangler or even the strangler at all but nothing came up before nov 25 2006. However if HA was in AC he might have seen some local news paper that penned the name "black horse strangler, harbor strangler something strangler". Can you find any references at all to the killer being nicknamed the strangler prior to nov 25 2006?

Nope!

 

[LindsayLohan6]

weird because how would that name have caught on from a post by HA?

 

[Theforeigner]

AND!!!...Kim Raffo and 2 of the other victims KNEW EACH OTHER! even LIVED TOGETHER at times, go read this previous post of mine:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...elationships-of-Victims&p=9869718#post9869718

Post #4 by Theforeigner


And this post of mind:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ib-interest-to-GB4-case&p=9835602#post9835602

 

[Just K]

Would love to know whose company HA and KR worked construction for in the weeks before her murder. We know they stayed at a Jericho motel and possibly a day or something at the Golden Key, right? HA came up to LI a few times a year. Wonder, if he buddied up with JB, the construction worker.

 

[LindsayLohan6]

As a construction worker and carpenter i assume JB might get hired to help on various different construction projects thru his business associates. So just because the Tobay Beach Bike path for instance wasnt his own contract, doesnt mean he didnt work on it. I wish we had a way to search thru his friends or business associates to see who works in construction and contracting and research some of their business through there.