Attorney Brad Conway To Release More Evidence In Anthony Case On 09/30/09

[reeseeva]

ITA I wonder if Brad's health is going to hold up-he looked terrible today and seemed to be having alittle bit of labored breathing. I'm sure some of that is because of his paralysis - but still!! You can see this is taking a toll on him!

I truly feel sorry for Brad C., and he should get out now!!......He is not strong enough to handle Raging Cindy on one hand and Knight in Shining Armour, armed with all her facts, Kathi B., on the other:croc:

 

[essies]

* Snipped by me *

At about the 13:00 min. mark, BC is asked about the search for Caylee's abducter, not Caylee. (Now, mind you, either search would be a waste, but searching for ZFG makes more sense than searching for Caylee.)

* Edited to Add * I am still listening and around the 27 min mark BC does say that "since there was no DNA available to definitively ID Caylee, CA may still hold out some "Grandmother's Hope"" Sheesh.

Correct star- I am just still reeling from yesterday's doc dump and DC's email w/Cindy about the PR woman and the picture that might be an "older" Caylee! I'm sure if Cindy could she would find a faux Caylee to spring her daughter!!:furious:

 

[RR0004]

Ok, now I am thoroughly confuzzled (like I wasn't before)....Am I living in lala land, or wasn't there an earlier doc dump that stated the duct tape matched, and it was a rare duct tape, by Henkel, made here, in northern ohio? and it matched the gas can duct tape, right?:waitasec::banghead:

I just remember seeing a statement saying something about a hair being on a specific specimen...but don't have a clue what specimen. IIRC there was "other" tape found at the scene supposedly away from Caylee's remains (?).

 

[RR0004]

Ok, now I am thoroughly confuzzled (like I wasn't before)....Am I living in lala land, or wasn't there an earlier doc dump that stated the duct tape matched, and it was a rare duct tape, by Henkel, made here, in northern ohio? and it matched the gas can duct tape, right?:waitasec::banghead:

I thought preliminary reports stated the adhesive was similar...and that the brand of tape was the same...but IIRC they never stated it all came off the same roll.

 

[Sammiejam]

Well.

That was embarrassing.

He made absolutely NO SENSE whatsoever.

So, lemme get this straight. We are not supposed to draw any conclusions based on the discovery we have so far. YET, we are supposed to draw conclusions about the discovery pertaining to the old tests and see that there are questions that need to be answered. He says that now we see "the lay of the land" more clearly (yep sure do. The perp looks more and more guilty with each second) we need to understand that the A's were correct in questioning of the forensic evidence. All the "questions" will be answered at trial but he just wants us to know what "questions" need answering?

He says that he believes there is some discovery somewhere that says a foreign hair was found on the duct tape but he doesnt have that and needs to research it more? (HELLO BRAD, maybe do the research BEFORE the PC?!?)

and because the old, decomposed, distroyed by the elements fibres from the tape dont match the clean, preserved fibres from the gas can then that means they ARE NOT A MATCH and actually TRUMPS the adhesive testing which clearly shows they DO IN FACT MATCH. Rrriiiiiiiiiight Bradley.

I could go on and on but I will just stand by my original comment.

Embarrassing. Made no sense.

 

[ZsaZsa]

I just remember seeing a statement saying something about a hair being on a specific specimen...but don't have a clue what specimen. IIRC there was "other" tape found at the scene supposedly away from Caylee's remains (?).

It was on the shovel, which sounds unremarkable to me, since it was a borrowed shovel.

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

What I heard on the news this afternoon, Whatever channel NG is on, any way, they said BC states there is no match but forensics and the tape company itself states 120 - 130 thousand rolls of the stuff was sold in 2006 and it matches, plus the probability of someone having 2 rolls of it in Florida were 250,000 to 1. I wish I had a link but I do not.

 

[Hot Dogs]

Ok, now I am thoroughly confuzzled (like I wasn't before)....Am I living in lala land, or wasn't there an earlier doc dump that stated the duct tape matched, and it was a rare duct tape, by Henkel, made here, in northern ohio? and it matched the gas can duct tape, right?:waitasec::banghead:

I think that the skull tape and the gas can tape matched for brand and type (special Henkel high temp). But upon microscopic exam by the FBI, the fabric component of the tapes do not match. They could have come from different rolls (batches?) of the same type of tape. Henkel may have had variable or changing fabric types used for this kind of tape. It seems that it is possible that the duct tape on the skull did not come from the Anthony household in spite of it being the same type of tape that was on the gas can. It matches for brand and type, but not for same roll or batch.

 

[Hot Dogs]

The only time I have seen an unidentified hair mentioned is on the shovel, which doesn't surprise me since it was borrowed.
Don't you just love it, he calls a Press conference and gets the "critical information"' wrong!

Is it this?
.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Here is the report regarding the hair found on the shovel. Casey and CAylee were excluded as being the source. Scroll about half way down the screen
It is specimen Q46 and the report about the Mitochondrial DNA tested from the small ( 1/4inch) hair found on the shovel.
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/10/24/forensicreport10.23.08.pdf

 

[Angel Who Cares]

Behind on thread...if you watch the video in the FOX article, about BC's PC & the Baez motions today, at the very end they report that next week the SA hopes to release another 1,000pgs of discovery. These should be the ones we heard about that have KC's tattoo pics etc.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/093009_Casey_Anthony_discovery

Looks like CA, GA, BC & Baez better get ready to file more motions or have BC do another PC like today's ( :bang: ) for the next day! I bet there will bill more to add to CA wants BC to show proof that.......... :banghead:

:angel:

 

[cecybeans]

I think that the skull tape and the gas can tape matched for brand and type (special Henkel high temp). But upon microscopic exam by the FBI, the fabric component of the tapes do not match. They could have come from different rolls (batches?) of the same type of tape. Henkel may have had variable or changing fabric types used for this kind of tape. It seems that it is possible that the duct tape on the skull did not come from the Anthony household in spite of it being the same type of tape that was on the gas can. It matches for brand and type, but not for same roll or batch.

Which could also mean it's highly likely it came from the same household if not actually from the same roll. And it's not likely we'll ever find out if it did. We have absolutely no idea what kind of stuff was in the Anthony's garbage for all the weeks KC was bonded out. There wasn't anybody even watching her at home during the second one. I'll bet she cleaned up and threw out anything the least bit incriminating. It's not like her parents would stop her - they certainly didn't believe in behavior "interventions". Too bad that "garbage lady" wasn't around 24/7.

 

[JWG]

I think that the skull tape and the gas can tape matched for brand and type (special Henkel high temp). But upon microscopic exam by the FBI, the fabric component of the tapes do not match. They could have come from different rolls (batches?) of the same type of tape. Henkel may have had variable or changing fabric types used for this kind of tape. It seems that it is possible that the duct tape on the skull did not come from the Anthony household in spite of it being the same type of tape that was on the gas can. It matches for brand and type, but not for same roll or batch.

Another possibility might be that, after six months in a swamp and the hot / humid Florida weather, the tape had degraded to the point that the fibers were just too difficult to conclusively match. Much of the fiber component on the tape is cotton (some is polyester), which would rot. So comparing the fiber composition would be very difficult.

BTW...did Conway cherry-pick the results to submit? I see portions of reports missing, and what appears to be huge page ranges missing.

 

[Muzikman]

Behind on thread...if you watch the video in the FOX article, about BC's PC & the Baez motions today, at the very end they report that next week the SA hopes to release another 1,000pgs of discovery. These should be the ones we heard about that have KC's tattoo pics etc.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/093009_Casey_Anthony_discovery

Looks like CA, GA, BC & Baez better get ready to file more motions or have BC do another PC like today's ( :bang: ) for the next day! I bet there will bill more to add to CA wants BC to show proof that.......... :banghead:

:angel:

Well dammit, I'm going to be out of town next week! :banghead:

 

[Torrie]

Well, this whole thing today was a sham, nothing more than trying to tamper with possible jurists. Do these idiots not realize, it doesn't matter what they do, the jury will hear all the evidence during the trial?

I am feeling less confident in this case, however. I thought there was a specific match with the duct tape found on Caylee, and the gas can tape. Then to find out that the heart sticker/tape was destroyed as evidence. Very disheartening. I am so very very afraid that this monster may walk away scott-free.

 

[strach304]

There is a link here a few pages back where KB interviews Bill Shaeffer (sp) legal analyst who weighs in on this evidence. This fiber info about the duct tape does not prove it still isn't from the same roll as the gas can tape. There is an article posted on the media site explaining what Brad sure couldn't and should have never tried. JB really needs to check with experts before trying to throw out this type of forensic evidence that he has no understanding of. None of the so called promised evidence was presented by Brad. He had no understanding of what he was talking about.

 

[Muzikman]

Another possibility might be that, after six months in a swamp and the hot / humid Florida weather, the tape had degraded to the point that the fibers were just too difficult to conclusively match. Much of the fiber component on the tape is cotton (some is polyester), which would rot. So comparing the fiber composition would be very difficult.

BTW...did Conway cherry-pick the results to submit? I see portions of reports missing, and what appears to be huge page ranges missing.

They were definitely cherry-picked. We just don't know if it was by Baez or Conway. :waitasec:

I wanna see the other 981 pages!!!

 

[Hot Dogs]

Another possibility might be that, after six months in a swamp and the hot / humid Florida weather, the tape had degraded to the point that the fibers were just too difficult to conclusively match. Much of the fiber component on the tape is cotton (some is polyester), which would rot. So comparing the fiber composition would be very difficult.

That is possible. But the wording of the narrative might suggest that the fiber composition was dissimilar in spite of any decomposition. Here it is...

The fabric portion of specimens Q62 through Q64 (FBI Laboratory number 081213001 TO LF) and Q104 (FBI Laboratory number 090115014 TO LF) (remains/scene) are microscopically dissimilar in fiber composition to the fiber composition of the specimen Q66 (FBI Laboratory number 081213001 TO LF) residence) Accordingly they are not consistent with originating from the same source as Q66.

Look at the bolded statement. The FBI knows this tape was sitting in a swamp for many months. Yet they still state that it is inconsistent with the gas can tape. IMO, when they say "source", they mean roll. The tape on the skull did not come from the roll that was used for the gas can.

 

[Mystic]

Which could also mean it's highly likely it came from the same household if not actually from the same roll. And it's not likely we'll ever find out if it did. We have absolutely no idea what kind of stuff was in the Anthony's garbage for all the weeks KC was bonded out. There wasn't anybody even watching her at home during the second one. I'll bet she cleaned up and threw out anything the least bit incriminating. It's not like her parents would stop her - they certainly didn't believe in behavior "interventions". Too bad that "garbage lady" wasn't around 24/7.

BBM the probability that they purchased a few rolls of the same brand is high imo I can go to my brothers right now and know he'd have extra duct tape, work gloves, plumbing tape etc... and as I recall the 'A's'garage, they seemed to be collectors of stuff. What I find quite odd is that not one single roll of duct tape of any brand was found in that house, garage or sheds. That's just inconceivable to me for a guy not to have any at all. jmo

 

[JWG]

Look at the bolded statement. The FBI knows this tape was sitting in a swamp for many months. Yet they still state that it is inconsistent with the gas can tape. IMO, when they say "source", they mean roll. The tape on the skull did not come from the roll that was used for the gas can.

IKWYM, HD ...

Still...

If one piece was 50% cotton and 50% polyester and the other 90% polyester and 10% cotton, I would conclude the fiber composition is dissimilar. Yet the difference in composition could be due to degradation of cotton, leaving mostly polyester behind.

What would really be telling is whether or not there was a difference in the weave pattern. I would not expect that to change with the elements. No mention of that in this report.