Attorney Brad Conway To Release More Evidence In Anthony Case On 09/30/09

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  • #681
WKMG-Channel 6's Mike DeForest said his station disputed the second example by showing Conway another FBI document that says no hair other than Caylee's was on the duct tape.

"At that point, Brad Conway basically backed off of this statement and said he wanted to do a little bit further research," DeForest said.

Later, WKMG cited reporter Tony Pipitone for challenging Conway on the point.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en...y-attorney-cites-weakness-in-states-case.html


I guess we get cited for reporting the truth.:waitasec:
 
  • #682
They are so infuriating...

Instead of trying to diminsh what the FBI/CSI/State prosecutors are doing by reading and twisting things to their satisfaction, why not let the trial play out as it should. When a jury of KC's peers finally find her guilty as charged, they can beg Judge Stickland for leniency when she is sentenced...

How dare they try to say, Caylee's death wasn't a crime! If her death wasn't a crime why isn't she walking among us? If her death wasn't a crime, why didn't mother call 911 immediately upon her allegedly being abducted? How do you go on with your life as if your child didn't exist in the first place? Partying, getting high, getting laid, climbing stripper poles, making out with men and woman, carrying on a carefree life with no child in tow...

Why did CA clean the trunk/pants, she knew the smell of death just as her X homicide hubby GA did...it wasn't pizza, it wasn't a squirrel, Anthony family it was your precious granddaughters body decomposing! Don't you get that! :furious:

Seems to be BC has been drinking the KoolAid all along...how can he place himself in a position to act as if he too is KC's defense attorney...and misread documents and say it as fact! He too should be ashamed of himself...these people just infuriate me.....I feel so sad for Caylee, she never had a chance...JMHO
 
  • #683
Results in on the duct tape:

Henkel's: "Skull tape" and gas can tape a unique brand / variety.

Fingerprint unit: No latent prints found. Not surprising as the tape was in the elements for six months and described as "degraded" in nature.

DNA unit: No DNA belonging to KC or Caylee. If no DNA of Caylee found, then no surprise KC's was not found either. Just too much time in the swamp. There was a DNA sample identified as belonging to FBI examiner. A second sample was limited in nature, but cannot eliminate a second FBI examiner as the source.

Chemistry unit: "Skull tape" composition consistent with gas can tape.

Trace evidence unit: Composition of fiber backing found in "skull tape" differs from gas can tape. A visual, microscopic comparison was done - nothing more. Not surprising as the fibers have a large cotton component. Degradation of "skull tape" will result in different fiber composition. Example: if the cotton fibers in the "skull tape" rot faster than the gas can tape, the ratio of cotton to polyester in both tapes will differ as a result. An analyst must conclude that the composition differs. They cannot speculate what the composition might have been prior to exposure to the elements.

Questioned documents unit: No results yet. This unit will tell us if the dimensions and manufacturing process for the tapes are consistent. Fundamentally, we will want to know if there are any differences in the fabric weave.

IMHO, the "evidence" (or as Mr. Conway would correctly refer to it - "discovery") released today sheds no real light on the comparison between the "skull tape" and the "gas can tape".

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  • #684
This was actually a big accomplishment for the defense. First they got headlines saying there were many things that didn't match. Second they implied the lab made many errors. Third they implied that the prosecution is being improper by forcing the trial of KC. They are also implying that the prosecution is hiding the evidence that could free KC.

WS'rs will read the articles and compare the evidence reports. But let's face it, many of the public will only see the headlines. That is the A's target audience. They see the headlines and believe there is problems with the evidence.

Media will never put the responses and contradictions in the headlines. So even though they are wrong, I am afraid that defense does get this point. But it hasn't gotten to trial yet. When it gets to trial, the jurors who read the headlines will be waiting for the defense to prove this. And if they are disappointed, if they don't see these factors proved, I think they will hold it against on the defense. That point will go to the prosecution, and that is the point that counts.



This is considered a big accomplishmnet for the defense? An attorney who apeears to not be working for the defense is the one who goes public to attempt to disprove tiny parts of evidence. This is their ace in the hole? This explains all the behavior from KC and family through out this case?

If this it. Start negotiating with the prosecuters, begging wouldn't hurt.

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  • #685
Isn't what BC and the Anthony's just did, considered interference in a murder case? The Anthony's aren't on trial (They Should be!) So why are they allowed to interfere with a murder investigation? Is this legal?

Add my name to this questionan also along with isn't this considered obstructing justice, preventing a fair trial the has come out of JB's mouth every other sentence? Can't the Anthonys be considered to interefering with justice.

But, I'm ok to wait until KC's trial is over before these issues get addressed. Wouldn't want anyone on the stand hiding behine the 5th amendment.:angel:

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  • #686
They are so infuriating...

Instead of trying to diminsh what the FBI/CSI/State prosecutors are doing by reading and twisting things to their satisfaction, why not let the trial play out as it should. When a jury of KC's peers finally find her guilty as charged, they can beg Judge Stickland for leniency when she is sentenced...

How dare they try to say, Caylee's death wasn't a crime! If her death wasn't a crime why isn't she walking among us? If her death wasn't a crime, why didn't mother call 911 immediately upon her allegedly being abducted? How do you go on with your life as if your child didn't exist in the first place? Partying, getting high, getting laid, climbing stripper poles, making out with men and woman, carrying on a carefree life with no child in tow...

Why did CA clean the trunk/pants, she knew the smell of death just as her X homicide hubby GA did...it wasn't pizza, it wasn't a squirrel, Anthony family it was your precious granddaughters body decomposing! Don't you get that! :furious:

Seems to be BC has been drinking the KoolAid all along...how can he place himself in a position to act as if he too is KC's defense attorney...and misread documents and say it as fact! He too should be ashamed of himself...these people just infuriate me.....I feel so sad for Caylee, she never had a chance...JMHO



Wouldn't this be a good time to bring in the LDT's and voice analynzers?


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  • #687
Isn't what BC and the Anthony's just did, considered interference in a murder case? The Anthony's aren't on trial (They Should be!) So why are they allowed to interfere with a murder investigation? Is this legal?

It's technically legal, as what he did realy isn't all that diferent from what NG and JVM do every night. But I am wondering if it is ethical behavior from the standpoint of an attorney. KC is not his client. His task is protecting and defending his clients. This just seemed to be rather blatantly serving a diferent master then the ones he is legally ethically and contractually obligated to act in the best interests of. Which is truly nothing new in this case.

One other key question. How or where did he get these documents, and what was his business being the one to disclose them? If they were not directly released by either the state or the defense, then how or why was he releasing documents to the public for a case that was not his? Why was he granted acess to them in the first place? And why would any such access continue?
 
  • #688
That FBI unit must be familiar with environmental degradation and how it can change material properties and appearances. They must. They knew they were looking at very weathered duct tape. We were already told that it was so degraded that much of the surface laminated film was gone. Yet in spite of this, the FBI says it is different. They had the opportunity to say something like, "Environmental degradation of the fabric component is such that it cannot be determined if it is from the same source as Q66." But instead, they say this...

Accordingly they are not consistent with originating from the same source as Q66.
There is no asterisk attached to this statement which explains "We don't know anything about environmental fabric degradation so we might say things for which we do not know what we are talking about."

I hear you...but again I will say that in these reports the FBI analysts seem to go out of their way to avoid commentary and speculative opinion. In fact, we can see from the words of the FBI supervisory photographic technologist when commenting on the trunk stain that they are trained to operate in that mode:

"We do not report conclusions about what may or may not have left any marks or impressions in cases like this -- it is too speculative. Others can draw their own conclusions about that."
 
  • #689
I knew we could count on you to bring out the big guns(if there were any lol) and here you have not let me down. So it is possible there is more to come. Heck, it could be in the dump that just went down and they are leading us away from it...

Thank you, MC. :blowkiss:

If the questioned documents report on the duct tape is in the document dump set for next week then it likely supports a link between the gas can and the "skull tape", otherwise you can bet counselor Conway would have waved that in the cameras at the news conference.

I would therefore conclude that either the document is not yet in the dump or that it does in fact support a link.
 
  • #690
Thank you, MC. :blowkiss:

If the questioned documents report on the duct tape is in the document dump set for next week then it likely supports a link between the gas can and the "skull tape", otherwise you can bet counselor Conway would have waved that in the cameras at the news conference.

I would therefore conclude that either the document is not yet in the dump or that it does in fact support a link.

Or, at the very least, a link between the "skull tape" and a roll of tape found in the Anthony home.

IMO, BC released nothing groundbreaking. I would have been interested to see evidence pointing to someone other than Casey.

This was a petty, whiny complaint and nothing more.

And, you know what? I've held back on judging the As, reasoning that they're grieving and there's no right way to do that. But that's just a load of BS.

I don't know what happened to those people to make them care so little about truth and justice and the life of Caylee that they are willing to throw all reason out the window to get Caylee's MOTHER/MURDERER out of prison.

Ugh!

I have to step away from the computer now.
 
  • #691
What is BC's motivation to allow himself to be a character in this circus? I just don't get it one bit.

Me neither. I wonder if today, after the excited fervor that I am sure CA had him worked up into has worn off, if BC realizes that they set him up to look like a fool all in an attempt to help free the person who murdered their grandchild? MOO.
 
  • #692
Wasn't there a myspace/facebook message from AH to KC that stated KC had borrwed or taken some duct tape? If so could that be tape linked to the crime scene as well? Regardless, I think BC & Co. are grasping at straws and actually just making fools of themselves.
 
  • #693
I guess I should add, though, that I absolutely do not believe Casey will be given the death penalty. She has the devil's own luck, and that 31 day delay, plus the 5 additional months before Caylee was found, all combined to make it impossible for LE to gather the kind of evidence that would insense jurors enough to enable them to sentence her to the same ending she gave her daughter. Unlike Casey, jurors have consciences and hearts, and so they will feel compelled to spare her life.

I'm hoping for LWOP, but realistically, I think she will end up with a fairly hefty prison sentence instead.

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I so totally agree with you, Friday. I, like you, also felt very down about these latest revelations on how the FBI had "destroyed evidence". My Ident daughter (CSI in the States) always brings me back to earth with a jolt though, and reminds me that common sense should prevail.

1. IIRC it was the FBI fingerprint analyst that first saw (or thought she saw) the sticker residue on the duct tape as she began her testing. Consequently, there are, I believe, no photographs and no forensic evidence that it did, in fact, exist. So as evidence, it would have been speculative at best. Given the fact that it may not have existed in the first place, she technically did not destroy it during the course of her work.

2. DNA, hairs and fibres are frequently transferred by forensic analysts as they collect and examine potential evidence, despite every attempt to prevent it, just as criminals invariably leave something at the scene. Finding and excluding an FBI analyst's hair on the duct tape is not contaminating evidence, nor would it nullify any incriminating hairs found on the same tape.

So, although the media, The A's, Mr. Conway, et al., have had a field day playing this up, I still feel the forensic evidence that we know of, and maybe some we don't yet know of, is compelling. Add to that the circumstantial evidence you noted in your previous post, and it's still a done deal IMO.
 
  • #694
OT: BREAKING: Man Who Buried Jessica Lunsford Alive Dies In Prison
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21162140/detail.html

John Couey, who was sentenced to death for raping and burying 9-year-old Jessica Lunsford alive, has died of natural causes in a Florida prison.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/30/convicted_murderer_john_couey_dead.html

For those who followed Jessica's case I didn't want you to miss seeing this!

:angel:

Well John Couey will now stand before "THE JUDGE" of all JUDGES and be sentenced accordingly.......it's about time. :Justice:

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God Bless you Mark L. and Grandparents L!
 
  • #695
The fabric portion of specimens Q62 through Q64 (FBI Laboratory number 081213001 TO LF) and Q104 (FBI Laboratory number 090115014 TO LF) (remains/scene) are microscopically dissimilar in fiber composition to the fiber composition of the specimen Q66 (FBI Laboratory number 081213001 TO LF) residence) Accordingly they are not consistent with originating from the same source as Q66.

underlined by me

Above it says Q62-Q64 comes from residence but so does Q66 so why is it not included with Q62-Q64? :waitasec: If it is not a mistake what am I missing? :waitasec:
 
  • #696
Me neither. I wonder if today, after the excited fervor that I am sure CA had him worked up into has worn off, if BC realizes that they set him up to look like a fool all in an attempt to help free the person who murdered their grandchild? MOO.

The Anthonys are going to talk their daughter right into the chair. ( or stretcher as it may be)..
 
  • #697
Or, at the very least, a link between the "skull tape" and a roll of tape found in the Anthony home.

IMO, BC released nothing groundbreaking. I would have been interested to see evidence pointing to someone other than Casey.

This was a petty, whiny complaint and nothing more.

And, you know what? I've held back on judging the As, reasoning that they're grieving and there's no right way to do that. But that's just a load of BS.

I don't know what happened to those people to make them care so little about truth and justice and the life of Caylee that they are willing to throw all reason out the window to get Caylee's MOTHER/MURDERER out of prison.

Ugh!

I have to step away from the computer now.

It seems to me that THE most important thing to CA is winning, or being right and having the last word. She does not appear to have any insight into what her behavior is doing.
Justice for Caylee and punishment for what that little child suffered hardly ever gets mentioned, unless it's her paranoid emails about searching for someone else to blame.
 
  • #698
Respectfully BBM. I'm in a mood to stand up and answer your question with the bold, unvarnished truth: I will grasp at anything that might help get Casey Anthony convicted! I loathe her for never--NEVER--reporting to the police that her 2 year old daughter was "gone." I loathe her for laughing and pole dancing and enjoying sex while Caylee's chubby little body was rotting into a skeleton. Whatever horror resulted in Caylee's death and inhumane disposal, it was Casey's fault either directly or indirectly, and I want her convicted!!!!

There. Right or wrong, that's my bluntly honest answer to your question. I can't possibly feel any other way no matter what argument I hear from you or anyone else, and I can even tell you why I will never change my mind about Casey: It's because I know that Caylee used to tuck her hand confidently in Casey's, and look up at her with big, trusting child's eyes, and she called her "Mommy." In return, Casey let her be reduced to ashes worn in lockets and bracelets. Forget all the other things Casey did and didn't do to obstruct and mislead LE. This is enough for me.




Justice may be about getting to the truth based on facts, but trials are not. Trials particularly with a high powered defense team are exactly "about twisting and tweaking things" in order to get an acquittal.



Unfortunately, facts and evidence do not necessarily get a conviction. If they did, then no blatently guilty party would ever get off on a technicality such as "the accused was filmed commiting the murder but he had an expectation of privacy at the time so the film is inadmissable." KWIM?

I think I shall frame that post . That sums it up very well.
 
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It seems to me that THE most important thing to CA is winning, or being right and having the last word. She does not appear to have any insight into what her behavior is doing.
Justice for Caylee and punishment for what that little child suffered hardly ever gets mentioned, unless it's her paranoid emails about searching for someone else to blame.

The self-righteous hostility in this woman is palpable. Sometimes I think she is trying, in a passive-aggressive way, to make sure her daughter gets convicted but does not get the DP. Anyone seeing the way this woman attacks (and, from what we can see, parents) could imagine a child (particularly another narcissist) nursing a jealous grudge that might turn deadly. But the same scenario would likely be mitigating circumstances for a DP; the toxicity and anger that oozes from both in their relationship is pretty evenly matched.

CA, to me, seems hell-bent on being the only martyr here - mourning the loss of a real grandchild and an imaginary daughter she made up for the press that now languishes in jail.
 
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