August 26th 2016 Motions Filed

  • #101
This one I really can't figure out... especially if he had nothing to do with her murder. But I guess, maybe she is implying he helped move the RAV4? But why would he help LE... or anyone else for that matter? Really makes me wonder if he is the one talking. Maybe he didn't lie, maybe LE reported it like that so no one would investigate the damage?

The explanation that a lot of people use in a case like this but I don't subscribe to is that when a person knows their guilty they will lie about things to justify why it's there. The suspect knows that he caused the damage to the car so he says it's been that way for months and that means he didn't do it.

Zellner doesn't have to be right about everything in her motion. She can win with only a fraction of evidence she is pursuing. It just has to be solid and not conjecture. JMO
 
  • #102
Honestly.... even to me, someone who thinks that it was planted, she seems extremely confident, and makes me think someone has talked, she just needs the confirmation.

Trying to catch up.... portions of her skull were recovered, those showed 2 gunshot wounds. Eisenberg testified, and then they did have another expert testify (something to do with the metal that showed up on the xrays of the bones).

As for the testing she plans on doing, she does give an overview in the motion about the various "new" ways to test the evidence.

If chemicals are found during testing, I guess it would depend on the chemicals? A household chemical? A chemical normally found in a lab? I would have to go back to read the motion to see if she is more specific.

BCA ~ what you have posted about the shot from the .22 is pretty much what my hubby told me months ago... and I did some research too... just a suggestion now that you have been researching for this case (and others).... get a good friend to destroy your computer harddrive if anything ever happens to hubby :D

Jaiddie ~ omg yes.. THEM DANG BONES!!!! Looks like she wants to do DNA testing on that pelvic bone, which I think she said during her questioning, was in 3 different places ;-)


LOL...he looked it up for me...I'll have to destroy his hard drive..wait he is my computer expert...I better not let anything happen to him...LOL
 
  • #103
I'd like to know exactly what Hillegas lied about in regards to the light.

The motion goes on to briefly discuss Individual B, who appears to be Ryan Hillegas, Halbach’s ex-boyfriend, whom the motion contends "misrepresented" that the RAV4’s blinker light had been broken months before.

"The victim’s blinker light was displaced sometime during the sequence of events of either the crime or the transport of the victim’s car onto Mr. Avery’s property," the motion states. "The blinker light was picked up and placed in the rear cargo area of the victim’s car by the perpetrator or the individual who moved the car onto the Avery property."

Maybe he was questioned about the light and he meant the bulb was out for months, not that the light assembly was broken off. Besides, how do we know when the light was broken off and placed in the rear of Teresa's car? JMO


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  • #104
Ranch ~ this is all we know about it. Page 73 of the motion.

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  • #105
Remember when we were talking about the pic's on the floor in KZ's office...well now those pic's make sense in relation to where the tower is...the dark line is I-43 and the tower is just NW of 10/310. See where 10 drops down (under the circle for the tower center point)

But, I can't figure out if she was coming from SS's how in the heck she could be in the 3rd sector, that doesn't make sense to me.
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  • #106
and on that same page (and following page), which I am not sure anyone has mentioned, they did look at the flash card that was in the back of the RAV4, it had photo's of vehicles, including a boat trailer taken at the Avery property.
 
  • #107
BCA ~ Is it possible she was taking back roads? She travelled these roads all the time and it wasn't that far from 'home' for her.
 
  • #108
BCA ~ Is it possible she was taking back roads? She travelled these roads all the time and it wasn't that far from 'home' for her.

But, why not take the most direct route? (Route 151) She would have to have gone out of her way to take the back roads in the middle of the day. No rush hour, etc. That doesn't make sense to me. Was she meeting up with someone, closer to home? From SS's there would be no need to go near 10/310 west of I-43.
 
  • #109
and on that same page (and following page), which I am not sure anyone has mentioned, they did look at the flash card that was in the back of the RAV4, it had photo's of vehicles, including a boat trailer taken at the Avery property.

Saw that too..took a pause on that one. Since it has the boat from Avery's doesn't that mean it was in her camera? I suppose it could have been from a prior visit too. I want more info on that one.
 
  • #110
Ranch ~ this is all we know about it. Page 73 of the motion.

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So either S/A Fassbender or Hillegas lied or maybe the un-named family and friends lied about the damage.

Or maybe no one lied. I can't tell.
 
  • #111
So either S/A Fassbender or Hillegas lied or maybe the un-named family and friends lied about the damage.

Or maybe no one lied. I can't tell.

My guess is "C". I think she wants to test it, so throw out a story to convince the court to allow her to test it. Nothing to lose, everything to gain if the perp really did touch it.
 
  • #112
My guess is "C". I think she wants to test it, so throw out a story to convince the court to allow her to test it. Nothing to lose, everything to gain if the perp really did touch it.

So it's all about testing the lamp assembly to see if Hillegas touched it? What if he says he touched it long before Teresa was murdered? That could jive with what he's said before hand.
 
  • #113
My guess is "C". I think she wants to test it, so throw out a story to convince the court to allow her to test it. Nothing to lose, everything to gain if the perp really did touch it.

But it would be too easy for the state to prove otherwise, I'm not sure they get a chance to answer this before the judge makes a decision.... but I wouldn't want to throw too much spaghetti at the wall, it brings too much doubt about the rest of the spaghetti LOL
 
  • #114
Remember when we were talking about the pic's on the floor in KZ's office...well now those pic's make sense in relation to where the tower is...the dark line is I-43 and the tower is just NW of 10/310. See where 10 drops down (under the circle for the tower center point)

But, I can't figure out if she was coming from SS's how in the heck she could be in the 3rd sector, that doesn't make sense to me.
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I don't know... it almost looks like there's a little lake to the top right of the road in that pic. You'd think that if it were 10, you'd see where Branch is.
 
  • #115
So it's all about testing the lamp assembly to see if Hillegas touched it? What if he says he touched it long before Teresa was murdered? That could jive with what he's said before hand.

I think it's about testing it to see if there is any other DNA, not necessarily RH's. It was never tested at all, which just seems so wrong considering where it was found and how it was propping up the back seats.
 
  • #116
I will catch up tomorrow, I have to go to bed (early morning tomorrow boooooooo)

BCA and zerbert ~ I expect you to figure out this tower thing and then explain it to the rest of us hahaha

Ranch ~ thanks for the discussion tonight! I expect you to know that motion word-for-word by tomorrow :crazy:

have a great night everyone :)
 
  • #117
I don't know... it almost looks like there's a little lake to the top right of the road in that pic. You'd think that if it were 10, you'd see where Branch is.

Oh, no Zerbert..that's a road...let me see if I can find it again..
 
  • #118
It's actually Packer Drive Zerbert....you have to look really close.
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  • #119
I will catch up tomorrow, I have to go to bed (early morning tomorrow boooooooo)

BCA and zerbert ~ I expect you to figure out this tower thing and then explain it to the rest of us hahaha

Ranch ~ thanks for the discussion tonight! I expect you to know that motion word-for-word by tomorrow :crazy:

have a great night everyone :)

Well, looks like we have homework tonight....LOL
 
  • #120
Well, looks like we have homework tonight....LOL

I'm gonna be that slacker kid who's in your homework group who lets everyone else do all the work and then just shows up for the grade... I gotta get some sleep! :lol:
 

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