Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

  • #3,821
It’s gone very quiet. No new developments?
Today, in the last few minutes of this SA Police press conference video (about another missing person in Outback SA) there is a mention of the ongoing search for Gus.

From the 11:30 mark in the video:
Major Detectives were interviewing the family again last week, and “exploring all avenues….nothing is off the table”.
Detective Superintendent Darren Fielke put strong emphasis on “all avenues”.

 
  • #3,822
Hopefully now that wandering has been ruled out and the police are looking at human intervention they will find out who abducted Gus soon.

wandering has been ruled out? what??
 
  • #3,823
Hopefully now that wandering has been ruled out and the police are looking at human intervention they will find out who abducted Gus soon.
Wow, where did you see or read that?
 
  • #3,824

" 'Nothing off the table':

Update

in search for missing boy Gus Lamont three months after he vanished from a remote sheep station in Yunta.


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Police say
they 'won't rest' in their search for answers
after returning to a remote sheep station where a four-year-old boy vanished months ago.

Detective Superintendent Darren Fielke said
detectives had returned to the property last week and spoken to Gus' family,
who were continuing to co-operate with police.

'That is not a simple investigation',
the Major Crime chief said on Tuesday.

'It's a four-year-old boy in a remote area.
We're exploring all avenues to do with locating Gus.

Nothing is off the table.

We won't rest until we're satisfied that we've done absolutely everything we can to find him,
and if we've done everything we can and we can't find him,
then that sometimes is what will happen'.

Detectives last week took further statements from the family."

 
  • #3,825

" 'Nothing off the table':

Update

in search for missing boy Gus Lamont three months after he vanished from a remote sheep station in Yunta.


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Police say
they 'won't rest' in their search for answers
after returning to a remote sheep station where a four-year-old boy vanished months ago.

Detective Superintendent Darren Fielke said
detectives had returned to the property last week and spoken to Gus' family,
who were continuing to co-operate with police.

'That is not a simple investigation',
the Major Crime chief said on Tuesday.

'It's a four-year-old boy in a remote area.
We're exploring all avenues to do with locating Gus.

Nothing is off the table.

We won't rest until we're satisfied that we've done absolutely everything we can to find him,
and if we've done everything we can and we can't find him,
then that sometimes is what will happen'.

Detectives last week took further statements from the family."


I don't want to read too much into it, but it seems there is a change in tone.

'That is not a simple investigation', BBM
You would think a small child wandering off and its just finding him, it is quite a simple investigation, just a large area ...
Unless they mean its not a simple search but yeah..a bit weird wording now IMO
 
  • #3,826
I don't want to read too much into it, but it seems there is a change in tone.

'That is not a simple investigation', BBM
You would think a small child wandering off and its just finding him, it is quite a simple investigation, just a large area ...
Unless they mean its not a simple search but yeah..a bit weird wording now IMO

Because he hasn't yet been found, it means that they have to do the full investigation for a missing person ... phone records, bank records, google searches, etc., just as they would for someone who was abducted. It certainly does not mean that wandering is off the table.
 
  • #3,827
Because he hasn't yet been found, it means that they have to do the full investigation for a missing person ... phone records, bank records, google searches, etc., just as they would for someone who was abducted. It certainly does not mean that wandering is off the table.

Of course but I thought that would already be the mindset, maybe not in the beginning but certainly not just now.
Just noting on the change of tone it seems , unless i'm forgetting other reports with similar vibes.
 
  • #3,828
Hopefully now that wandering has been ruled out and the police are looking at human intervention they will find out who abducted Gus soon.
From the resent presser, it doesn't say wandering off has been ruled out. Police said they are exploring all avenues. Which is what they said from the start.
 
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  • #3,830
All avenues of enquiry have always been on the table from day 1.


Detective Superintendent Darren Fielke said detectives had returned to the property last week and spoken to Gus’ family, who were continuing to co-operate with police.

Detectives last week took further statements from the family.

“That’s just part of the normal investigational process that we go through,” Fielke said.

“They went through a pretty torrid Christmas, obviously, without Gus, and we’re checking the family regularly
.”

Update in grim outback search for missing boy
 
  • #3,831
All avenues of enquiry have always been on the table from day 1.


Detective Superintendent Darren Fielke said detectives had returned to the property last week and spoken to Gus’ family, who were continuing to co-operate with police.

Detectives last week took further statements from the family.

“That’s just part of the normal investigational process that we go through,” Fielke said.

“They went through a pretty torrid Christmas, obviously, without Gus, and we’re checking the family regularly
.”

Update in grim outback search for missing boy

What exactly does it mean
"took further statements from family"??

🤔

I would think
all important details concerning the boy's disappearance were given to Police on day 1.
So...
What do Police still enquire about after over 3 months?

JMO
 
  • #3,832
What exactly does it mean
"took further statements from family"??

🤔

I would think
all important details concerning the boy's disappearance were given to Police on day 1.
So...
What do Police still enquire about after over 3 months?

JMO

Maybe asking them about new information they've discovered.
 
  • #3,833
What exactly does it mean
"took further statements from family"??

🤔

I would think
all important details concerning the boy's disappearance were given to Police on day 1.
So...
What do Police still enquire about after over 3 months?

JMO

I think, details in investigations like this would continously evolve.

The family members may recall things that weren't front of mind on day 1. I think as the pieces of the jigsaw are put in place, new questions need to be asked. Old question need to be re asked, perhaps in different ways.

MOO
 
  • #3,834
I think, details in investigations like this would continously evolve.

The family members may recall things that weren't front of mind on day 1. I think as the pieces of the jigsaw are put in place, new questions need to be asked. Old question need to be re asked, perhaps in different ways.

MOO

I have a feeling we might be surprised by a twist in this case.

The language used by Police
seems to me oddly warning.

("Nothing is off the table"
"Took further statements"
"Not a simple investigation")

🤔

Well,
I might be exaggerating
as I'm not a native English speaker,
so...
I could miss some niuances or misunderstood.

JMO
 
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  • #3,835
I have a feeling we might be surprised by a twist in this case.

The language used by Police
seem to me oddly warning.

("Nothing is off the table"
"Took further statements"
"Not a simple investigation")

🤔

Well,
I might be exaggerating
as I'm not a native English speaker,
so...
I could miss some niuances or misunderstood.

JMO

Yes possibly, but i'm not really getting any sinister 'vibes' from police.

There is a task force of officers looking after the investigation who no doubt are being as thorough as possible.

The language being used is all very normal in my mind.
 
  • #3,836
Yes possibly, but i'm not really getting any sinister 'vibes' from police.

There is a task force of officers looking after the investigation who no doubt are being as thorough as possible.

The language being used is all very normal in my mind.

Oh well,
Language of whatever nationality LE
always seems to me opaque,
as if deliberately vague hehehe 😁

JMO
 
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  • #3,837
No evidence of foul play vs. nothing is off the table. Hmmmm.
 
  • #3,838
From the resent presser, it doesn't say wandering off has been ruled out. Police said they are exploring all avenues. Which is what they said from the start.
If he wandered I’m pretty sure he would’ve been found or there would’ve been some evidence indicating he had been in the area- after all Gus didn’t have much daylight to go too far and the area has been combed. A kid can’t vanish unless they’ve been taken and if the family had anything to do with it someone would’ve cracked by now. IMO
 
  • #3,839
What exactly does it mean
"took further statements from family"??

🤔

I would think
all important details concerning the boy's disappearance were given to Police on day 1.
So...
What do Police still enquire about after over 3 months?

JMO
The police were going to go back over information collected, I’m guessing that means they’re looking more closely at anyone who has been to the property who saw Gus. JMO
 
  • #3,840
I’ve been absent from the main thread for a while for various reasons, but this is something I’ve been thinking about for some time and wanted to put to the group to get thoughts, particularly from anyone with legal or law-enforcement experience.

I want to ask a procedural question about police decision-making, using the wording of South Australian law, rather than speculate about motives or outcomes.

Under Division 1A of the Criminal Law Consolidation Act 1935 (SA), the offence of criminal neglect is defined quite broadly.

Section 13B makes a few things explicit.

An act includes an omission and a course of conduct.
A child means a person under 16 years of age.
Harm includes detriment to the physical, mental or emotional wellbeing or development of a child, whether temporary or permanent.
A duty of care exists where a person is a parent, guardian, or has assumed responsibility for the child’s care.

Section 14 then provides that criminal neglect is made out where:

a child dies or suffers harm as a result of an act or omission,
the defendant had a duty of care,
the defendant was, or ought to have been, aware of an appreciable risk of harm, and
the defendant failed to take reasonable steps to protect the child, with that failure being serious enough to warrant a criminal penalty.

The offence does not require intent. It does not require identification of a specific moment where harm occurred. It expressly allows for courses of conduct, omissions, and situations where harm is inferred from the outcome.

Given that framework, I am trying to understand how police appear to be approaching this matter.

Based on the publicly described timeline, a four year old child was left outside for a significant period of time, then disappeared and is now presumed dead. On its face, that raises questions about omission, duty of care, foreseeable risk, and failure to take protective steps, which are precisely the elements Division 1A is designed to address.

So my question is not whether anyone is guilty. My question is procedural.

Does the timeline as publicly described fall outside Division 1A, and if so, why?

Because if it does not, then the absence of any criminal neglect charge, or even public reference to that offence, seems to require some explanation. Either investigators believe one or more statutory elements are clearly not satisfied, or they are operating on facts materially different from those that have been publicly stated.

If the former, it would be useful to understand where police believe the threshold is not met.
If the latter, that suggests the public narrative may be incomplete.

This isn’t about blame. It’s about understanding how a law specifically designed to address neglect by omission is being applied, or not applied, in a case involving a missing four year old.

If anyone can shed light on how Division 1A is typically handled at this stage of an investigation, I’d genuinely appreciate it.

South AustraliaCriminal Law Consolidation Act 1935
 

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