Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

[Intriguedbymissingpersons]

I just came upon a missing case: A woman disappeared end of June and was found END OF AUGUST in the crawl space of her own home, from where she disappeared!
(Kathryn Pipitone)

Impossible to imagine, IMO, but ....

Daniel O’Keeffe was found under his home (the last place he was seen) almost 5 years after he went missing, after large scale searches / massive campaigns + public appeals

 

[tedtink]

This is why i'm hoping the police are running background checks on <modsnip> everyone who has access to the property, as any one of them could know the lay of the land and/or have a possible motive to take Gus.

People don't just disappear like this, there's usually some piece of evidence laying around nearby.

That would have been done in the first instance.
Police always clear the ground from under their feet first.

 

[Itz_CrimsonYT]

That would have been done in the first instance.
Police always clear the ground from under their feet first.

That is, if there even was evidence under their feet in the first place. If there is no evidence in the general area, then there is no proof that anyone was even there.

Think of it like asphalt roads in your local town or city. There are no prints to show cars were there, so even if someone was kidnapped, there would be no evidence they were taken in a car.

Of course, we know this isn't exactly the case. This is in the outback, lots of sand and dirt. So unless the roads by the homestead are made out of something like asphalt and show no traces of vehicles. Then it doesn't make sense, as there would have to be some sort of marking indicating someone was there. Whether it be a footprint or tire track.

On top of that, the winds that afternoon were strong enough to move sand, so any traces of vehicles or people could've easily been covered up by sand. (To clarify, the winds at the time were about 9 MPH)

 

[Miss-e]

Why would police say keyboard detectives are not helping find Gus?
If police are reading comments from the public, would it not be helpful to find Gus if they read something that they had not even thought about doing themselves, or overlooked something important.

South Australian Police issued a statement saying: We are confident that we have done all we can to locate Gus within the search area. Police statement regarding Yunta search

Gus was not found in that search area and that area should have been the limit a 4 year old can walk, then IMO wouldn't they want to take a better look if they are so sure the only scenario is for Gus to have wandered off. SAPOL say there's a chance Gus will never be found, isn't that quite obvious if nobody is looking for him.

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Why would police say keyboard detectives are not helping find Gus?
If police are reading comments from the public, would it not be helpful to find Gus if they read something that they had not even thought about doing themselves, or overlooked something important.

South Australian Police issued a statement saying: We are confident that we have done all we can to locate Gus within the search area. Police statement regarding Yunta search

Gus was not found in that search area and that area should have been the limit a 4 year old can walk, then IMO wouldn't they want to take a better look if they are so sure the only scenario is for Gus to have wandered off. SAPOL say there's a chance Gus will never be found, isn't that quite obvious if nobody is looking for him.

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The last sa child case (Khandalyce) was solved by someone who guessed her mothers identity and called crime stoppers.

 

[Rocket333]

Assuming we are then satisfied Gus was at the residence when his Grandmother said he was, along with the lack of evidence to support an abduction and your absolutely certainty he is not there, where does that then leave us? Aliens?

People don't just disappear like this, there's usually some piece of evidence laying around nearby.

If Gus wasn’t removed, he could still be close to home and near the dirt pile where he was last seen. That area would have been searched and it may have then been dismissed because nothing was found or looked out of place. If it all looked intact, the search team may have (even unconsciously) shifted their focus outward, assuming movement and travel away from the home. I wonder if the shovel has been found? There’s no reports of a boot or hat being found which suggests that Gus stayed intact and didn’t discard anything in distress or in a struggle. Children often shed possessions during distress or movement so the lack of any dropped possessions may suggest that he didn’t wander far, and that he may be concealed in a way that prevents visibility and thermal detection.

 

[Rocket333]

That is, if there even was evidence under their feet in the first place. If there is no evidence in the general area, then there is no proof that anyone was even there.

Think of it like asphalt roads in your local town or city. There are no prints to show cars were there, so even if someone was kidnapped, there would be no evidence they were taken in a car.

Of course, we know this isn't exactly the case. This is in the outback, lots of sand and dirt. So unless the roads by the homestead are made out of something like asphalt and show no traces of vehicles. Then it doesn't make sense, as there would have to be some sort of marking indicating someone was there. Whether it be a footprint or tire track.

On top of that, the winds that afternoon were strong enough to move sand, so any traces of vehicles or people could've easily been covered up by sand. (To clarify, the winds at the time were about 9 MPH)

The 3.5 hour window before police were called allowed time for a quiet removal. If someone accessed the property early, moved quickly, and left, the dirt track, the wind and the timing could have messed with any evidence. MOO

 

[su5ie]

If Gus wasn’t removed, he could still be close to home and near the dirt pile where he was last seen. That area would have been searched and it may have then been dismissed because nothing was found or looked out of place. If it all looked intact, the search team may have (even unconsciously) shifted their focus outward, assuming movement and travel away from the home. I wonder if the shovel has been found? There’s no reports of a boot or hat being found which suggests that Gus stayed intact and didn’t discard anything in distress or in a struggle. Children often shed possessions during distress or movement so the lack of any dropped possessions may suggest that he didn’t wander far, and that he may be concealed in a way that prevents visibility and thermal detection.

I think he is somewhere around the property its self I don't think he wandered outward

 

[Toowong(s)]

Still thinking of little Gus. I hope he and his family get closure soon.

I assume his people and the locals are still out looking and eventually one day we will find out what happened, where he wandered away to.

Did he wander away some distance, then got bitten by a brown snake and succumbed? Then due to vastness of the property has sadly remained hidden from searchers so far? Concealed under some bushes. Sadly never able to call out to even the first searchers. How long until thermal imaging helicopter would not see him?

Some less probable, but perhaps plausible theories, working to the published timeline:

Did he wander into path of a farm vehicle? Accidentally hit, and a panicked driver has covered their tracks? A horrible thought, but plausible?

Taken away by someone on the property? Where? Why? Seems a tough and tight knit community so I’d hate to be that person if/when family and friends find out who. I don’t think a random outsider is plausible given the driveway is 25km long, with 6 gates.

A dingo or wild dog? There would have to be evidence of a struggle surely? Little farm kids are tough, he’d have helped herd sheep and do all sorts of farm jobs. He’d put up a good fight. Perhaps he wandered away first, then attacked by a wild dog away in the bush. I’ve seen some pretty frightening big hunting dogs on stations in the outback, kept locked up in cages, presumably very dangerous, only brought out to hunt. Trained to take down large pigs. Are there any wild hunting dogs, escaped, now living wild out there? The locals would know. Sheep would be attacked.

I also saw an enormous wild cat once on farm in WA, could easily be mistaken for some type of big cat, grown huge from eating lambs and whatever else it could hunt on the farm. White, all muscle and knicknamed the ghost, and very stealthy. There are reported sightings of “panther sized” cats in rural Victoria but that is a long way from this SA location.

Just jotting down some of the thoughts that run through the mind…

Any other theories out there that fit the narrative, or otherwise?

 

[su5ie]

I'm thinking in the environs of the sand pit and surrounding immediate area or a dingo if he wandered but why take a child when plenty of sheep about

I think a snake bite is a good possibility and it could have been in the locality of the sand ,gus within seconds succumbed to the deadly venom and prehaps falling down into the brush that surrounds the sand and concealing him

 

[Warwick7]

Yes, that's where I am leaning also, a sandpit. I would expect natural hidden sandpits to be found in that area. All it would take is an ancient riverbed. My guess is this natural feature would provide the geological conditions for sand deposits to form. M00

 

[ErinC]

Apologies if someone has already stated this, but: I say the same thing in every missing child case. That is, searchers should go out to the very farthest point that a child could get to, the point they think there's no possible way he could have gotten further... and go 2 more miles/km further out. This is my thought in just about all of the cases where a child is missing outdoors. MOO

 

[Itz_CrimsonYT]

I was talking about the possibility of Gus having an accident or incident near to where he was playing. I still think that’s what’s happened, rather than him wandering over the paddock’s or being kidnapped.

If that is the case, wouldn't the thermal helicopters have picked him up on the first day?

Regardless, what incidents could even happen by a sand pit other than getting trapped inside?

 

[Toowong(s)]

Coincidental I’m sure, but I discovered a big charity outback car rally passed through Yunta that weekend… twice from the look of the route map.

The Event | Lunchbox Rally

Lunchbox Rally is a very unique opportunity for kids to see outback Australia in a car worth <$1500, all in the name of charity!

lunchboxrally.com.au

 

[Itz_CrimsonYT]

Coincidental I’m sure, but I discovered a big charity outback car rally passed through Yunta that weekend… twice from the look of the route map.

The Event | Lunchbox Rally

Lunchbox Rally is a very unique opportunity for kids to see outback Australia in a car worth <$1500, all in the name of charity!

lunchboxrally.com.au

This didn't happen in Yunta, it happened nearby Yunta in a rural area that not many people have access to. I don't think they would've passed by the homestead considering the six gates required to pass through, and that it wasn't directly in Yunta.

 

[Toowong(s)]

This didn't happen in Yunta, it happened nearby Yunta in a rural area that not many people have access to. I don't think they would've passed by the homestead considering the six gates required to pass through, and that it wasn't directly in Yunta.

Yes understood - it was reported that the homestead is 40km south west of Yunta town, although that’s just a milk run in the outback (eg the driveway alone is 25 km long, although I am not sure if that is part of the 40km or not).

Not sure where I’m going with this, just coincidental, but was interesting to learn there were 80+ old rally cars passing through town twice over the weekend - the rally teams are all parent + child teams, a kid friendly rally to raise money. Sounds like a wonderful event. There was a big pajama party in Yunta with all the kids.

Perhaps all this excitement in town inspired Gus in some way, to go build a rally track for his toy cars? Who knows, I just thought it was an interesting thing to learn about and share, I imagine that was a big event for the community - not a typical weekend. So shared for fellow sleuthers just in case it becomes relevant or sparks another theory.

 

[kiwi50]

Do we even know yet if Gus lived at the property or was visiting?
I think it’s time a family member needs to speak out, their silence is beginning to worry me.

 

[Curiousobserver]

Thread 'Remains Found in Area After LE/SAR Searches'

Jul 15, 2021

@bombardier compiled an excellent starter list of MP cases that ended with the person's remains found in/near a location that had already been searched (some multiple times) by LE/SAR. Other WS members added a few cases to the list as well. I and others thought it would be useful to start a thread in order to track these types of cases as case study analyses could prove useful in future cases. Please feel free to add summaries of similar cases of which you are aware. MOO

Great post and thanks again, @bombardier!
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It is very difficult to find a body, much more so than you would think.

MOO is he may be hidden in or around the house in some object only a 4 yr. old would think to climb into.

 

[tedtink]

Do we even know yet if Gus lived at the property or was visiting?
I think it’s time a family member needs to speak out, their silence is beginning to worry me.

He lived there.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Fresh insight into outback SA search for missing boy Gus Lamont | 7NEWS​

Family friend says he is certain the little boy is not on the property and has ruled out bizarre theories like an eagle taking him.

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The idea of birds of prey carrying off children is a fascinating one nevertheless and is well established in both British and European folklore. It has also given rise to a number of pubs named the Eagle and Child here in the UK, including the one in Oxford which was frequented by Tolkien and the other Inklings.

It's quite difficult to find definitive information about the lifting power of various birds of prey, but it seems that most larger European birds of prey such as eagles could quite feasibly easily take a newborn or a baby a few months old. Wikipedia's article on the Wedge-Tailed Eagle reports:

"The wedge-tailed eagle is at times capable of taking very substantial livestock animals, lambs taken have been estimated to weigh a mean of 3.5 kg (7.7 lb) or up to 15 kg (33 lb) while fully grown sheep weighing some 40 to 50 kg (88 to 110 lb) are infrequently vulnerable, presumably in large part to hunting pairs of eagles."

Wedge-tailed eagle - Wikipedia

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A 4-year old child would typically weight 30-40 lb, so Gus would probably be right at the upper end of the prey range but might nevertheless be an attractive prospect if injured or dead.

 

[TMich6811]

He lived there.

I hadn’t seen this anywhere yet