Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

  • #861
Love kelpies! RIP Jack.
 
  • #862
I don't suppose Gus could have walked as far as the Yunta township?
 
  • #863
I guess I'm still not clear as to whether Josie is Gus's biological grandfather or a more recent partner of Shannon's.

If the former, Josie is effectively the "patriarch" of the family since s/he is a biological male and will have been socialised and brought up as male. With that (to my mind) come issues of dominance and control, potentially coercive control, of Shannon, Jess and the children.

If the latter, it does seem concerning that Josh has effectively been pushed out of the family by Shannon's partner.
In 1997 Shannon was known by the surname of Murray.

Source: Department for Environment and Water https://share.google/E5DFPn0n8aZJqUKA4

On SM there is a group about the history of the Yunta area and Oak Park Station is mentioned in there along with Shannon's maiden name and history of her parents.
 
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In 1997 Shannon was known by the surname of Murray.

Source: Department for Environment and Water https://share.google/E5DFPn0n8aZJqUKA4

On SM there is a group about the history of the Yunta area and Oak Park Station is mentioned in there along with Shannon's maiden name and history of her parents.
Thanks - that's very useful. I don't use much social media and I've generally not had much luck with searching for Australian government documents.
 
  • #866
The answer to your question, how far could a dingo drag a child? I’d say, a dingo could not drag a child any length at all without leaving any drag marks or blood absolutely anywhere.
The property is behind the dog fence, so no dingos in there.
 
  • #867
Many young boys have long hair…. It does not mean anything.
As long as the hair is curly and long, little boys look so sweet and cuddle-worthy! My own sons had their hair long like a girl for some time. 😊 My daughter hadn't curls and didn't get long hair (until later), and I was asked again and again, if my little BOY is doing great.
 
  • #868
Is safety maybe not the issue with dad, rather one grandparent being trans?
Probably both reasons, IMO. But my question: why did his partner Jess live there, far away from the father, if they weren't separated?? To me it makes no sense at all.
 
  • #869
Probably both reasons, IMO. But my question: why did his partner Jess live there, far away from the father, if they weren't separated?? To me it makes no sense at all.

Although it may seem far away, 2 hours away to those living in the outback is nothing :)
 
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  • #870
Many young boys have long hair…. It does not mean anything.
IMO - As do many older men, including my partner, who at 57 has very long hair, close to my own length which is at least halfway down my back. MOO
 
  • #871
ather so adamant to not be there and to not talk to his partners mum.
Gus’ mother’s Mum is Shannon Murray .

It was Josie who his Dad JL clashed with .

Josie Murray is transgender & lives with Shannon.

I know some have suggested that Josie may in fact be Jess’s father & the relationship with Shannon continued post ‘transition’ to Josie. But I haven’t seen anything to either suggest of confirm that.

Not that anyone’s personal situations matter a jot to outsiders - and it only matters in the scheme of this case if there were activities or behaviours etc that made an unsafe environment for children, leading to the disappearance of little Gus.

Has it been said anywhere how many Sheep they ran ? Is this property run by 3 women ?
Also I think it could have been shearing time, or at least coming into shearing time, which would bring extra people, as I’m pretty sure they’d use contract shearers.

If he was playing in that dirt pile, I find it very confusing why he would leave there at that time of afternoon and head off somewhere else. I would think he would’ve been getting hungry, but maybe he went to shed to get some ‘tools’, and perhaps something fell on him.
Maybe hay bales, I don’t think he’d get in a grain silo…
 
  • #872
Although it may seem far away, 2 hours away in the outback is nothing :)
I've always the problem with distances. When my children have to drive to their working place for 1 hour, I pity them, very much even - and they are laughing it away.
 
  • #873
FWIW

JL allegedly clashed with JS.

JL has said nothing directly.
 
  • #874
I'd just really like to see the grandparents continue to open the farm up to visitors and a fresh set of eyes and thoughts might just come up with something that will bring a closure to this tragedy.
I wouldn't be wandering around at night any longer on the property but a good thorough search, even if it's over the same ground and inspecting the same structures, may come up with something.
Although, before multiple car tyres came along and probably covered everything over, I'd have liked to have seen if there were any footprints of Gus's on the dirt tracks heading out to the road.
 
  • #875
I'd just really like to see the grandparents continue to open the farm up to visitors and a fresh set of eyes and thoughts might just come up with something that will bring a closure to this tragedy.
Depending on the direction of the police investigation, LE may not want more people tramping across what may be turning into a crime scene.
 
  • #876
'We're still looking for him,' she insisted, while declining any offers of assistance in the search effort.

'You can't help. We are still dealing with this.'

Source: Missing boy Gus' grandparents break their silence: 'Clashes'

So much strong opinion now formed over so little words. Controlling, and it seems feelings come first over finding Gus. All along, family wants privacy, privacy, privacy. Why?..

This is all IMO and I'm not worrying about 'feelings' and 'privacy' over the recovery of poor Gus.
 
  • #877
That statement about clashes with Josie, not living with his own partner because of it.. that sends shivers down my spine. The relationship between them must have been bad.. & that raises the question, what was going on?

So the DM got this information from am anonymous "Family Friend", yes? I think way too much extrapolation has been taken from this already. I'm sure we'll learn more soon, but for now let's just assume "what was going on" was the drama we get in every family, more or less.

I guess I'm still not clear as to whether Josie is Gus's biological grandfather or a more recent partner of Shannon's.

If the former, Josie is effectively the "patriarch" of the family since s/he is a biological male and will have been socialised and brought up as male. With that (to my mind) come issues of dominance and control, potentially coercive control, of Shannon, Jess and the children.

We really don't know anything though, really? We've had one third party mention the Dad didn't get along with Josie. Supposedly. It's not uncommon for families to split a little, or a lot.

I'm just mystified how this has all seemingly paused. The family must be absolutely physically and emotionally exhausted. Even then, though, I'd be asking for more help... I'll say that much.
 
  • #878
'We're still looking for him,' she insisted, while declining any offers of assistance in the search effort.

'You can't help. We are still dealing with this.'

Source: Missing boy Gus' grandparents break their silence: 'Clashes'

So much strong opinion now formed over so little words. Controlling, and it seems feelings come first over finding Gus. All along, family wants privacy, privacy, privacy. Why?..

This is all IMO and I'm not worrying about 'feelings' and 'privacy' over the recovery of poor Gus.

Privacy...why? Why not.
Because I'd imagine they are already destroyed by Gus's disappearance, without all the social media circus of speculation,false theories circulating.
People deal with things in different ways - So be it.
 
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Oak Park Station belonged to Shannon's family. There is a little bit of history about for that property if you know where to look.

Josh is an outback boy as well and also lives on a property at Belalia North.

Gus’ father Joshua Lamont lives at a property about 100km away in Belalia North.


Ms Thomas, who had grown up at Parnaroo Station nearby the Lamonts

I'm really not sure what different dangers there would be compared to Jess's and Josh's property. As most outback properties within that area are the same. Given they mentioned clashes specifically with Josie, maybe Josh thought that was a danger psychologically wise to his children. Unfortunately not all people have the same views towards LGBTQ. JMO
The Daily Mail has been told that Josh and Jess remain a couple but he does not live on the station because of clashes with Josie.

'Josh doesn't think it's safe for the kids to be out there, it's dangerous,' a family friend revealed
 

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