Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

[LadyL]

I am really interested in the family dogs because I am trying to figure out what was happening at 5 to 5:30 pm, while Gus was outside playing.

My daughter has two Aus cattle dogs, which I take care of on many weekends. When my granddaughter is in the yard, the 2 dogs are always at her side when possible. If she began to wander off, I am convinced they would follow her or come get me and begin barking and trying to notify me that she took off.

That's why I was wondering about the dogs. Was grandpa out with the sheep and the dogs were there too? Or was grandpa at home, inside the house? I am curious about where the dogs were because 'herding type' working dogs usually herd children as well, as they take on the responsibility themselves. IMO

I asked about that too. I thought surely the dogs would follow Gus and try to herd him home but someone said they were likely in a kennel. However, we've seen them in pictures running around freely.

 

[LadyL]

Our ranch dogs (herding breeds) usually left the kids alone. They were tired from working all day! I can only think of two we had out of many that seemed to “police” the kids. Just another POV

interesting
thanks

 

[LadyL]

so I'm not sure what they do on this 'station' - do they raise sheep? if so, who has been doing that with the family members
presumably and understandably not able to while little Gus Gus is missing? do they have employees?

 

[HaydenMackaa]

Apologies if someone has already asked but does anyone have experience or information on the range and area the police IR camera could cover once it arrived at the location on the night? It looks a fairly barren landscape (not a lot of canopy cover) and although 4yo can be a good walker it’s unlikely he headed in a straight direction away from the property imo, more likely a bias turning in one direction or zig zagging once lost. Given that search and the people on the ground it would seem to me he’s got himself underground, inside something or there is something else going on.

 

[KBlackRabbit]

so I'm not sure what they do on this 'station' - do they raise sheep? if so, who has been doing that with the family members
presumably and understandably not able to while little Gus Gus is missing? do they have employees?

Station = ranch.

No idea if they have ranch hands. None has been identified that I know of.

 

[Thoughtful123]

It has now been 14 days since young Gus was reported missing and as evidenced by the discussion here, there are many unanswered questions. For those who know more about these cases, is it likely there is a media suppression order in place?

 

[Ellery84]

Pretty sure the dogs are kelpies…..

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Missing boy Gus' grandparents break their silence: 'Clashes'

The little boy vanished almost two weeks ago after playing in the yard of remote Oak Park homestead in the harsh South Australian outback, 300km north of Adelaide.

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They look like Kelpies to me.

 

[Ellery84]

Our ranch dogs (herding breeds) usually left the kids alone. They were tired from working all day! I can only think of two we had out of many that seemed to “police” the kids. Just another POV

The working dogs don't usually bother kids that live on the same property. If Gus grew up there, the dogs would have known him from birth.

It would be very obvious if Gus had been attacked by a dog.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

It has now been 14 days since young Gus was reported missing and as evidenced by the discussion here, there are many unanswered questions. For those who know more about these cases, is it likely there is a media suppression order in place?

No word of one yet.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

The working dogs don't usually bother kids that live on the same property. If Gus grew up there, the dogs would have known him from birth.

It would be very obvious if Gus had been attacked by a dog.

I think it was more insinuated that the dogs would have looked out for Gus

 

[Ellery84]

I asked about that too. I thought surely the dogs would follow Gus and try to herd him home but someone said they were likely in a kennel. However, we've seen them in pictures running around freely.

If they live on a Station, they might be free range during the day and in a kennel at night, or on the porch all-night with or without a tether.

At 5pm, I would assume it's still light and the dogs are out and about.

 

[Ellery84]

I think it was more insinuated that the dogs would have looked out for Gus

No, I agree.

 

[katydid23]

As I posted pages back, I leaned towards little Gus hidden somewhere in the structures, not found, and gave some examples.

I still feel that way. There are so many examples of massive searches where bodies were missed, found in the oddest places, some close by from where they vanished. And Gus is tiny. And there's also the hidden old wells that were mentioned by a local early on.

some :
Annie Le...Yale, in a wall (murder)
Elisa Lam....hotel rooftop cistern
Harley Dilly ....chimney
Joshua Maddox ...chimney
Professor (killer) found under a pallet where he shot himself and where dogs had searched (can't remember his name)
girl found inside a hollow tree (can't remember the name)

oh and a case close by to me. young woman disappeared from public housing. She was found a couple of years later, in a wall of the apartment while someone else was living there.

Toddlers are sometimes found in cars or car trunks or in old fridges or freezers. There are probably some type of boxes or barrels or large equipment /boxes around that property. Hopefully they searched inside everything.

 

[jessicalouise]

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I think what the neighbour Jason had to say holds a lot of weight given his experience volunteering and living in the area.

My heart breaks for the father whose worst fears came true.

I feel like for the boy to wander off it could logically only end in a few outcomes: dehydration and passing out, falling/climbing into an animal burrow of some sort, drowning in a dam, being bitten by a poisonous animal, falling down a mine shaft.

Someone brought up that it was odd his hat wasn't found since kids that age are always losing their hats.

I also find it odd that they insist on wanting to deal with things themselves trying to find him. Alive or deceased if I was the parent id want as many people out there searching as possible.

I think between what the male neighbour has said, what the father has said, and what the police have said/are doing there's a lot to be read between the lines.

 

[katydid23]

who's Jack?

I'm guessing Kemug's late beloved Kelpie, Jack?

 

[Cindy006789]

Yes i tend to agree with you about the dingoes. You would expect to see drag marks or find clothing or shoes. It would be helpful to know what wild animals are in the area. About the only other animal would be boar.

 

[katydid23]

so I'm not sure what they do on this 'station' - do they raise sheep? if so, who has been doing that with the family members
presumably and understandably not able to while little Gus Gus is missing? do they have employees?

I am curious about employees too. How many people might be coming and going from the property that day, if any?

 

[jessicalouise]

Just to share a personal anecdote for context: my brother went missing around the same age on my uncle's cattle property. Different terrain - his was lush green grass, sloping hills, a creek deep enough for a 4yo to drown in, wombat holes, old mine shafts, and lots of fenced paddocks.
On his property they kept working dogs that were caged and kept separate when they weren't working (they were kept in a caged run where there was an expanse of grassed area and a kennel to sleep in) but he also had a farm dog that interacted with the family.

About 6 of us went looking for him fearing the worst but also thinking he couldn't have gotten far. He got far! He was able to pass through multiple fenced paddocks and when we eventually found him he had the farm dog with him.

Given the relatively flat scrubby ground 4yo's can get pretty far on foot especially when there are no obstacles in their way and at that age they'd be savvy enough to unlock, lock gates if they knew already how to do it.

 

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[BreakingNews]

I am curious about employees too. How many people might be coming and going from the property that day, if any?

It probably depends on what is happening on the farm at the time.
However it appears that the shearing season starts in Spring - September here in Oz. Shearing is to ensure the sheep can keep cooler during the worst of the hot summer. So I would image that the property had more staff than usual.
We haven't been given this information.
So much I think we don't know ... yet

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