Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

[abyquinn]

My mind goes to all the dams and tanks on the property. It has to be the most likely non-sinister scenario right now for mine (IMO).

Do police divers always find what they are looking for? I imagine it’s a pretty difficult job. How often have police divers searched a water body only to have the body still turn up years later?

Or if not the dams, hiding/misadventure eg in an old barrel, tank, vehicle or ruins of an old building.

But there would be footprints / tracks surely?! And all of that should/would have been thoroughly searched.

And why would so many people involved in the search say with such conviction that he’s simply not on the property?

By extension that leads me to:
- abduction (but surely the police would have a massive PR case going, and appeals, like they did with Cleo Smith).
- murder / cover up, but by who? and why? Accident with vehicle or machinery - but in this case Gus’ remains would be crucial evidence and I’m sure police would have sealed off the place and be crawling all over it still.
- hiding/misadventure, falling down an old mine?
- animal involved? Plausible but unlikely as per earlier post.
- Gus was never there? Has he been hidden / removed for some reason? To keep him safe?

Aside from those none of which seem to fit, I’m starting to ponder if aliens do exist.

IMO

Re BBM

Is it because there’s been no birds of prey seen on the property? If Gus was there, unless he is concealed in something there should be vultures circling the area. If he is in the water they know with mathematics when he should reappear.

Is it possible he was abducted? Surely there are cameras on the highway leading to the property that could be searched.

He was still fairly small if a wild animal got him there may not be any trail for a short distance but there will be at some point & there will be clothing/boots left behind. Remembering the baby Lindy (the dingo baby) her clothes & some remains were eventually found right outside the search area, but over a ledge so not obvious.

I’m shocked they haven’t found him or any sign of him. I hate cases like this, children don’t just disappear but sometimes they sure seem to.

 

[HaydenMackaa]

I would be really interested in the specifics of the search are, I think I read by the first October they had searched a 2.5km radius of the last known location and perhaps there were 70-100 people onsite a day? It seems to me he’s could have walked significantly further and it would be very difficult to cover that area comprehensively with that amount of people? Maybe with hindsight they need to mobilise a larger military effort earlier in these cases to get more people on the ground? Doesn’t really explain how the air assets didn’t pick him up tho…

 

[whitelilac]

I would be really interested in the specifics of the search are, I think I read by the first October they had searched a 2.5km radius of the last known location and perhaps there were 70-100 people onsite a day? It seems to me he’s could have walked significantly further and it would be very difficult to cover that area comprehensively with that amount of people? Maybe with hindsight they need to mobilise a larger military effort earlier in these cases to get more people on the ground? Doesn’t really explain how the air assets didn’t pick him up tho…

If he had continued walking, it was soon to be dark. Wouldn't he get scared and go towards light? There was no light, other than from the buildings which presumably would be in view.
Was there a full moon?
I still am hesitant that he walked away from the property for a considerable distance though....and alone.
Granted, kids explore, as I did back then on these stations. But I was 11/12 and with my friend, and others.

 

[packetgravy]

Does this mean they don’t think he has been abducted

imo yes.

 

[Marg944]

Somebody else involved’: Experts say same thing about missing Gus Lamont case​

“After an extensive 10-day search, police have failed to find any clues into the disappearance of four-year-old Gus Lamont. Experts say there is one clear reason why.

Criminal experts believe a “third party” is involved with the disappearance of Gus Lamont after police were forced to scale back the search this week for the missing four-year-old in remote South Australia.

Speaking to news.com.au, criminologist Xanthe Mallett said all signs now pointed to a third party involvement.”

https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/somebody-else-involved-experts-say-same-thing-about-missing-gus-lamont-case/news-story/f92184679794c58dd40c96cb673246ae

 

[Ellery84]

This case makes no sense to me.

Why aren’t the police appealing to the public for help with their search for Gus like they did with Chleo Smith if they are so sure he’s not on the property ?

Why aren't the police appealing for public assistance? I don't know but it's an excellent question.

Does this mean they don’t think he has been abducted and that the family are covering up something?

I'm not sure what it means. I just wish the police would somehow do "more."

 

[Dotta]

" 'Somebody else involved’: ​

Experts say same thing about missing Gus Lamont case.​

Criminal experts believe a 'third party' is involved with the disappearance of Gus Lamont
after police were forced to scale back the search this week for the missing four-year-old in remote South Australia.

Criminologist Xanthe Mallett said all signs now pointed to a third party involvement.

'Given he’s so young,
it’s very unlikely that he would have run away.
That’s more a teenager kind of thing',
she said.

'The scale of the search and how detailed it was,
and the drones and everything else,
it does feel at this stage, sadly,
that if they haven’t found something
that it’s likely to be third-party involvement'.

Ms Mallett said given the 'remote' nature of the area near Oak Park Station,
the lack of evidence found in the search also points to a third party."

https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/somebody-else-involved-experts-say-same-thing-about-missing-gus-lamont-case/news-story/f92184679794c58dd40c96cb673246ae

 

[packetgravy]

This case makes no sense to me.

Why aren’t the police appealing to the public for help with their search for Gus like they did with Chleo Smith if they are so sure he’s not on the property ?

Because:

-the circumstances surrounding the disappearance of Chleo and Gus are vastly different

-there was no evidence to suggest abduction

-risk assessment and initial strategy involves statistics, in a way removing some guesswork and ensuring the correct resources are applied. It’s likely abduction was ruled out in the early phases. I agree with this assessment.

-initial report and statements from those involved are not in line with an abduction

I believe those at the scene provide statements for what they suspect has occurred. The delayed release of a photo holds a potential clue into their line of thought.

MOO

 

[Toowong(s)]

Because:

-the circumstances surrounding the disappearance of Chleo and Gus are vastly different

-there was no evidence to suggest abduction

-risk assessment and initial strategy involves statistics, in a way removing some guesswork and ensuring the correct resources are applied. It’s likely abduction was ruled out in the early phases. I agree with this assessment.

-initial report and statements from those involved are not in line with an abduction

I believe those at the scene provide statements for what they suspect has occurred. The delayed release of a photo holds a potential clue into their line of thought.

MOO

I’m interested to understand what might be the logical reasons for delayed release of photo in a missing persons case?

 

[spiritualdreaming]

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[spiritualdreaming]

Somebody else involved’: Experts say same thing about missing Gus Lamont case​

“After an extensive 10-day search, police have failed to find any clues into the disappearance of four-year-old Gus Lamont. Experts say there is one clear reason why.

Criminal experts believe a “third party” is involved with the disappearance of Gus Lamont after police were forced to scale back the search this week for the missing four-year-old in remote South Australia.

Speaking to news.com.au, criminologist Xanthe Mallett said all signs now pointed to a third party involvement.”

https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/somebody-else-involved-experts-say-same-thing-about-missing-gus-lamont-case/news-story/f92184679794c58dd40c96cb673246ae

Not all experts are saying the same thing Charlie Bezzina says animal in the recent A Current Affair segment.

Just such a mystery and I truly hope LE can solve this case.

 

[Lucy.D]

The police did an amazing job finding Cleo Smith. Hope they can track who was at Oak Park Station the same way with similar results.
I hope they find Gus soon

Was it police who found Cleo? They only tracked Cleo down by appealing to the public with the release of photo after photo. There are absolutely no public appeals in this case and possibly one AI doctored photo...the only message from the family is nobody to come here, you can't help, stop speculating and let us grieve. Not that I'm criticising police, but police have been less informative than that.

 

[Lucy.D]

Why aren’t the police appealing to the public for help with their search for Gus like they did with Chleo Smith if they are so sure he’s not on the property ?

Why is there so much discussion on this thread about possible places on the property where Gus could be found when police have said they have done everything possible to find him?
Does that mean many people on here are criticising the police investigation, which is not allowed.

 

[packetgravy]

I’m interested to understand what might be the logical reasons for delayed release of photo in a missing persons case?

(Remember this is just my opinion and take on the matter.)

I believe the initial strategy (ground search and heli mobilised) would suggest abduction was ruled unlikely during the risk assessment.

There are a few factors here, in this case we have:

- location/terrain
- time of day
- access
- family background (no custody battles)
- age and temperament
- statements provided by caregivers
- no gang/drug/money related concerns of involvement
- no new relationships/personal interest in the family and/or child

MOO

 

[Lady-J]

I saw tv footage of a woman who is a friend of the family telling people that Gus hasn’t been abducted because there are six gates on the way to the property. My father has a sheep farm with gates and that doesn’t stop random members of the public occasionally driving onto the property .
Six gates didn’t stop 100 people from entering Oak Park Station to search for Gus

 

[pipj]

Do we know when the last time anyone other than the family, saw Gus in person?

 

[Auntie Cipation]

Why is there so much discussion on this thread about possible places on the property where Gus could be found when police have said they have done everything possible to find him?
Does that mean many people on here are criticising the police investigation, which is not allowed.

No. There are plenty of reasons why the police might publicly state they have done everything they can to find GL even while it is still possible that GL is still on the property.

 

[Lady-J]

Good question- I haven’t read or heard a word when Gus was last seen by anybody apart from the family.
This case is very quiet which seems odd.
Maybe the police are onto something

 

[Lady-J]

Was it police who found Cleo? They only tracked Cleo down by appealing to the public with the release of photo after photo. There are absolutely no public appeals in this case and possibly one AI doctored photo...the only message from the family is nobody to come here, you can't help, stop speculating and let us grieve. Not that I'm criticising police, but police have been less informative than that.

Yes the police found Cleo Smith using pings from nearby phone towers where she went missing and worked out who was in the area at the time

 

[PolyDot]

From the daily mail.

His grandmother says she saw him playing there at 5pm two Saturday evenings ago.

Half an hour later, when Gus was called in for dinner, he had gone.

The known facts are as follows: At 5.30pm, Gus’s mother, Jess, who lives on the secluded homestead with her parents, realised she couldn’t find him.

Redirect Notice

From The Advertiser

Left alone for just half an hour, he was gone by the time his grandmother, Shannon, returned about 5.30pm. The sun was sinking fast, slipping below the horizon at 6.16pm, and panic set in.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/search-for-missing-4yearold-boy-gus-lamont-near-yunta-in-outback-sa-scaled-back/news-story/12c43101ab44e0371728513b5be78cfc

So am I right in saying Gus & mum live at grandparents farm , and that Gus ‘s father didn’t live there ?