Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

[TootsieFootsie]

Yes sorry I got a bit mixed up there.

Sorry doing online Christmas shopping and I'm in another world.
It was Overnights. Those episodes are also all there online to listen to.

A bonus for Websleuths is I got a chance to spruik my favourite radio programme, Nightlife
You lucky websleuthers! I am so good to you sharing my knowledge

Spruik Definition & Meaning | YourDictionary

Spruik definition: (Australia) To promote a thing or idea to another person.

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(Australia) To promote a thing or idea to another person.


Origin of Spruik

Unknown, likely Germanic – compare Dutch spraak (“speech”), spreek (“speak”),spreuk (“saying”).

 

[Raina_the_observer]

So basically, the family of Gus, could show a very indicative timeline of personal behaviour, if fuel stations do keep data CCTV recordings for more than 6 9 months
Interesting

I cant see that producing any useful information. I am sure the Police would already have accessed camera footage of recent dates.
But if you look at the map, you will see that the road to the family's property enters on the western side of the service station. All the services the family accesses, shopping, government offices, health srvices would be on the western side. There are also family, all on the western side.
If they travelled east there is nothing until Broken Hill in NSW. Remember they would have bulk fuel at the Station, so would not have any reason to go to the service station.

Do you think they would have regularly driven past the service station.? I dont.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

The Overnights programme also does not do reruns.

 

[Kemug]

The Wheal Motley mine is an abandoned copper mine.

Gus has been gone for 63 days, and multiple searches have yielded no clues

The disappearance of Gus Lamont is one of those events that have a seismic impact on public consciousness: they distress, disturb, upset and unsettle. This week six mine shafts were searched, providing no further clues in the case.

www.abc.net.au

"Wheal" is Cornish for mine. I suppose "Motley" could mean that it wasn't only copper mined there.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

A lot of people from Cornwall moved to Australia years ago, many to take up mining.

Their legacy left a lot of Cornish place names plus other words.

 

[Kemug]

IMO, some details given as facts should be preceded by the word "allegedly", strictly speaking. JMO

 

[TootsieFootsie]

IMO, some details given as facts should be preceded by the word "allegedly", strictly speaking. JMO

You've lost me. What details ?
In referece to what.

 

[kurtneverdied]

Not the worst suggestion checking Petrol Station cameras. It could show a car towing a trailer covered with a tarp or something, and that might be something to follow up on.

An easier way for LE is to obtain permission to use surveillance and access phone records which seems legal in they have reasonable concern to do so after the elimination/thorough search of everywhere Gus could of wandered.

I assume this may allow to see all movements of that device or devices. In the Greg Lynn case they bugged his house while everyone was sleeping but most, if not all, was not admissible in court due to perhaps not going through the legal process. However they wouldn't of cared, they then knew they were on the right suspect.

 

[Kemug]

You've lost me. What details ?
In referece to what.

Well actually, when Gus was last seen for example. We only have the evidence of one person, who may have been mistaken. Corroboration would be good.

 

[Kemug]

A lot of people from Cornwall moved to Australia years ago, many to take up mining.

Their legacy left a lot of Cornish place names plus other words.

My family still use some Cornish words.

 

[katydid23]

Well actually, when Gus was last seen for example. We only have the evidence of one person, who may have been mistaken. Corroboration would be good.

Is there any evidence of his last whereabouts other than their word and their word alone?

 

[Bats]

Is there any evidence of his last whereabouts other than their word and their word alone?

I don't believe the Police have released details of any evidence supporting the word of Gus's grandparent. Though, I think they will have looked into this aspect very closely and may have evidence that supports the story. They'd also have tricks up their sleeve to test that the evidence stacks up.

It's probably the most important part of Gus's disappearance for them to understand in my opinion.

 

[musicaljoke]

Well they have a whole strike force with 12 people on it. Many hands make light work.

If they really try, they can get it done.

But to what end? I grew up on a farm and never went to a gas station unless we travelled so far from home that the vehicle would run dry. All the fuel we needed was in the bulk tanks at home.

 

[Greenie75]

This is a question for @BreakingNews and / or @Greenie75 regarding the "Quiz" call-in AM radio show BreakingNews heard at 2:30am the other day and Greenie75 transcribed (since deleted), during which a "Bob" called in and spoke about his search for wee Gus with Fleur.

Bob had said he and Fleur were the only ones (presumably the only civilians) to be searching for Gus, he was heading out that morning to search again and asked for volunteers to join, and most importantly, IMO, he stated he and Fleur KNOW (not think) Gus is still alive.

Is there any way either of you can confirm the date of that "Quiz" show? Can you confirm it was live vs. an older rerun?

What if it was just a rerun, and all our fuss about what Bob said is irrelevant now?

Thanks in advance!

My post was deleted because I mentioned a surname that has never been publicly mentioned in relation to the case. It was also highly speculative in the sense that there are plenty of Bobs in Adelaide. Fair call. I do know the rules of this forum. Here is the transcript again:

ABC Overnights Program
2am early morning, Friday 28th November
Starts around the 25-minute mark on my desktop interface
Presenter: Michael Pavlich [very patient and polite person imo]

Michael: How many noses does a slug have?
Bob: I’ll go with four.
Michael: You are correct.
Bob: Now, this is my first time ringing this number, this quiz line, and you’re based in NSW, is that correct?
Michael: Nah, actually, we’re based in Melbourne.
Bob: Okay, okay, ‘cause I’m in Adelaide, and I’m up late because I’m actually planning to head off early tomorrow morning. I’m actually trying to put out a call for some volunteers to come help me look for someone. [Interjection regarding second quiz question, which Bob gets correct]. I’m trying to recruit an army of volunteers to go and help look for a lost boy.
Michael: Okay…
Bob: His name’s Gus Lamont and there’s only two people looking for him - that’s me and a lady called Fleur. It’s been in the news. It’s a sheep station up near Yunta, which is on the border of NSW and SA. I’m sure lots of your listeners have been hearing. Nobody’s up there looking for him. He’s been lost for a little while now. But he’s alive. I know he’s alive. Fleur knows he’s alive. We need people to look for him because no one’s looking for him. Everyone thinks there are lots of people looking for him, but there’s nobody looking for him.
Michael: Okay, okay, look Bob, we’ll take your details, and thank you for that, and thank you for looking. Thank you for calling in mate - we really do appreciate it.

 

[katydid23]

My post was deleted because I mentioned a surname that has never been publicly mentioned in relation to the case. It was also highly speculative in the sense that there are plenty of Bobs in Adelaide. Fair call. I do know the rules of this forum. Here is the transcript again:

ABC Overnights Program
2am early morning, Friday 28th November
Starts around the 25-minute mark on my desktop interface
Presenter: Michael Pavlich [very patient and polite person imo]

Michael: How many noses does a slug have?
Bob: I’ll go with four.
Michael: You are correct.
Bob: Now, this is my first time ringing this number, this quiz line, and you’re based in NSW, is that correct?
Michael: Nah, actually, we’re based in Melbourne.
Bob: Okay, okay, ‘cause I’m in Adelaide, and I’m up late because I’m actually planning to head off early tomorrow morning. I’m actually trying to put out a call for some volunteers to come help me look for someone. [Interjection regarding second quiz question, which Bob gets correct]. I’m trying to recruit an army of volunteers to go and help look for a lost boy.
Michael: Okay…
Bob: His name’s Gus Lamont and there’s only two people looking for him - that’s me and a lady called Fleur. It’s been in the news. It’s a sheep station up near Yunta, which is on the border of NSW and SA. I’m sure lots of your listeners have been hearing. Nobody’s up there looking for him. He’s been lost for a little while now. But he’s alive. I know he’s alive. Fleur knows he’s alive. We need people to look for him because no one’s looking for him. Everyone thinks there are lots of people looking for him, but there’s nobody looking for him.
Michael: Okay, okay, look Bob, we’ll take your details, and thank you for that, and thank you for looking. Thank you for calling in mate - we really do appreciate it.

On November 28th, how could he and Fleur KNOW that little Gus is still alive?

Where can they be searching for him where he'd still be alive and well so many weeks later?

Where is he getting food and water? Where is he sleeping and staying out of the elements?

 

[jepop]

Ah ok I thought they were copper mines. Certainly when gold was discovered it created a very haphazard style of mining back then. I spent some time in Hill End in NSW and there are disused mine shafts absolutely everywhere. You want to stay on the track there and not go wandering around the bush.

RBBM. The situation may be similar in SA, though Idk to what extent numerically speaking small outfits might have ventured into the vast land expanse 40 odd kms south east of Yunta.

The police update revealed the shafts recently searched ( between 5.5 and 12km distant from the homestead) were identified following expert analysis of complex drone mapping. I guess I feel like this analysis would likely (?) have picked up any previously unidentified shafts within the 5.5km search perimeter itself?. So IMO the analysis didn't ID any previously unaccounted mine shafts within the search perimeter because if it had, then police would have searched them too.

I see three possibilities

1) As of now no mine shafts have been IDed within 5.5 km of the homestead; ie a) locals/ family knew of none in particular in that area; b) investigators found no official documentation of any; and c) searchers did not ID any when on foot.

Or

2,) Family/locals knew of some and informed the search; and/or investigators found documentation of some within the search area; or searchers themselves came across previously un-IDed shafts during ground searches. In any of these scenarios, the hypothetical shafts would, IMO, have been examined and eliminated as a matter of course.Jmo

3)In the event of either 1) or 2), there are still some unknown mine shafts within 5.5km of the homestead which either Task Force Horizon analysts missed or alternately are too old and collapsed for the tech to distinguish.

All Moo.

*Disclaimer: I don't have a good understanding of tech used by investigators but believe it has capabilities to detect the sort of earth disturbance which would characterise old mine shafts. Jmo

ETA: or 4) As with 1) or 2) but in fact there are no, or no more ( in the case of 2), mine shafts within 5.5km of the homestead.

 

[_sleuthdog_]

My family still use some Cornish words.

Sorry but first thing that sprung to my mind was a Cornish pasty and now I’m craving one of those.

Not really relevant to the case so I apologise



Australian Cornish Mining Sites

“The miners transported their skills and way of life to an environment completely different to the one they left behind, creating a new community in South Australia. One of the traditions they brought with them was the Cornish pasty, a hearty and nourishing meal of meat, potatoes and onions wrapped in a thick pastry. A good pasty could survive being dropped down a mine and holding it by the crust stopped it being contaminated by dirty hands.”

 

[quiz]

My understanding is that it is old gold mine shafts. Probably a snake haven no

But to what end? I grew up on a farm and never went to a gas station unless we travelled so far from home that the vehicle would run dry. All the fuel we needed was in the bulk tanks at home.

Yes, but different farms exist
Holding tank of fuel is very dangerous decision to make.

 

[cckp72]

Bob: His name’s Gus Lamont and there’s only two people looking for him - that’s me and a lady called Fleur. It’s been in the news. It’s a sheep station up near Yunta, which is on the border of NSW and SA. I’m sure lots of your listeners have been hearing. Nobody’s up there looking for him. He’s been lost for a little while now. But he’s alive. I know he’s alive. Fleur knows he’s alive. We need people to look for him because no one’s looking for him. Everyone thinks there are lots of people looking for him, but there’s nobody looking for him.
Michael: Okay, okay, look Bob, we’ll take your details, and thank you for that, and thank you for looking. Thank you for calling in mate - we really do appreciate it.

Thank you for the transcript.

We have so little to go off of in this case, but why do we think Bob is credible?

 

[Zedx]

Thank you for the transcript.

We have so little to go off of in this case, but why do we think Bob is credible?

IMHO I think Bob is not credible at all. For starters, who injects this type of conversation into a late night radio quiz show between questions? JMO, but no credible person does. Makes me question if he even knows Fleur! And the family has already said they dont want random groups of people showing up to search on their property unannounced. If its only him and Fleur, then hes not including the family, so we can assume he does not have permission from the family. Unless they are not going to search the families property? And the statement 'But he’s alive. I know he’s alive. Fleur knows he’s alive.' is also questionable. IMO I think he is 'full of it', but I believe it would still be worth the Police finding this bloke and Fleur and questioning them, just for peace of mind at the least.