Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

[JLZ]

Do we know if they had any employees that worked at the farm? I feel like with a property that big they would have some kind of help for mustering and such.

I've always thought the case was sus but I've also always felt like it wasn't the parents or grandparents but someone else who lived or worked at the property

Yes, but not at the time Gus was said to have disappeared. (I wonder though how anyone can be certain that nobody arrived and departed unseen by Shannon.)

 

[katydid23]

Another thing in the scenario that Gus died the night before that feels strange to me, is that Jess headed out in the morning without seeing him to say Goodbye, see you at dinner time, be good for Shannon. Even if he was still in bed--and small kids are often the first ones to wake and start running around.

All true, but if the GP's had disposed of him the night before, I'm pretty sure they found a way to deflect and manipulate things that morning. Maybe they told Jess that Gus was awake until very late and so he was sleeping in?
OR maybe they purposely changed that mornings schedule----told Jess there was an emergency with a break in the outer fence---and so they had to set out at dawn that morning----knowing that she wouldn't expect Gus to be awake before dawn?

 

[SouthAussie]

Yes, but not at the time Gus was said to have disappeared. (I wonder though how anyone can be certain that nobody arrived and departed unseen by Shannon.)

That is why I think they must have some other hard evidence. Because they can't technically completely rule some things out - even though they have made their best effort to do so. They seem to have been as thorough as possible.

imo

 

[katydid23]

IMO - I distinctly remember making a post & stating that here in Australia, seeing someone brandishing a shotgun so menacingly was NOT normal & I got shouted down about it at the time. So I’ll reiterate it again for those in the back - Seeing someone brandishing a shotgun so menacingly is NOT normal here in Australia. MOO

YES, and it made no sense with their accompanying narrative----that Gus was playing all alone, out in a dirt pile, with no supervision at all.

If Grandma needs a loaded shotgun to protect the front porch from deadly snakes, why is a 4 yr old alone in a dirt pile?

 

[JLZ]

Actually, I need to correct my previous timing, the legislation was assented to on 4 December 2025.
Under the specific terms of the Summary Offences (High Risk Missing Persons) Amendment Act 2025, the law states:

• Commencement: "This Act comes into operation on the day on which it is assented to".
• Effective Date: Because it received Royal Assent on 4 December 2025, the powers legally came into effect on that date, not January 1st.

The January 1st date frequently appears in legal databases like JADE (BarNet) as a "cited from" or administrative marker for the 2026 legal year, but the official South Australian Legislationconfirms the December 4th start.

Thank you. I could only find really general reports about the legislation.

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2019609422696431841

 

[mickey2942]

IMO - I distinctly remember making a post & stating that here in Australia, seeing someone brandishing a shotgun so menacingly was NOT normal & I got shouted down about it at the time. So I’ll reiterate it again for those in the back - Seeing someone brandishing a shotgun so menacingly is NOT normal here in Australia. MOO

Yeah. And it isn't normal in the United States either. Very strange behavior.

 

[JLZ]

That is why I think they must have some other hard evidence. Because they can't technically completely rule some things out - even though they have made their best effort to do so. They seem to have been as thorough as possible.

imo

I need to know what the discrepancies are. I'm through with taking police suspicions on trust. They can talk specifics or charge someone, and then I'll see what I think.

 

[katydid23]

Is it possible also that LE are making a deliberate point of saying that the parents are not suspects to provide them with a feeling of safety right now which may encourage further chatter amongst the family?
IMO it’s possible that one or both of the parents could also be complicit in some way but LE does not have enough evidence yet to actually see them as a suspect yet.

I don't think either of the parents were involved.

The father was nowhere near the station at any of the crucial times. And I don't believe the children's mother had any reason, motive or the temperament to harm her little boy. I think both parents a total victims here.


I think the Grandparents manipulated the mother and fooled her when necessary, in order to cover up the truth of his disappearance. IMO

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I for one have not ruled out that he didn't wander somewhere and got stuck.
Searches have missed missing people in the past. many times.

Just because the Police say it, doesn't mean it's not still a possibility, unless they know something solid that we don't. which could be possible.

The fact that they do say it makes me think they have more than changing timelines.

I have a problem with jumping on someone because their memory four months later has changed.
If it was me, I'd be in trouble. This many months later I'm sure my memory would have changed too.

People's memories do change over time.

Over time you start to doubt your recollection.

And then there's age related possible memory problems


So far, nowhere near enough information for me to know for a fact that they have a suspect who committed a crime.

 

[SouthAussie]

Re Andrew Ey…

“A LAWYER from a prominent legal family has been charged with assaulting a police officer by allegedly poking him in the chest with his finger.
Andrew Ey has been charged with assaulting, hindering and resisting Constable Barry Purnell as the officer tried to detain a friend of Ey’s at Norwood on Friday, October 3, last year.

His father, Stephen Ey, has acted in numerous high profile murder and drug cases as well as representing high profile elite sportsmen and prominent members of the community.”

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/son-of-prominent-adelaide-lawyer-stephen-ey-arrested-for-allegedly-poking-police-officer-in-the-chest/news-story/b3ab90a99764c9a680c0925b753a45f0?nk=fecd195655f962b7273edc9db6f7f153-1770345363

That article is actually from March 2015. 11 years ago.

Since then Andrew Ey has received a ‘pre-eminent’ rating in 2023 for criminal law in the distinguished Doyle’s Guide of Australia’s leading lawyers.

He has also achieved murder acquittals for Frankie Marshall in 2010, Nicholas Novakoic in 2016 and Thomas Pinnington in 2023.

(paraphrased from)

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/gus-lamonts-grandparents-josie-murray-and-shannon-murray-engage-lawyers-amid-major-crime-investigation/news-story/0ee5cc1b1bd1b3a7346b41ad79d88a46?amp

 

[katydid23]

That is a terrible tragedy. If it was an accident, they should have said something. Covering up is the problem.

Which is why I worry it might be more than an innocent accident. If he fell into a hole or something like that, they could have driven him to a doctor. Much better than pretending he got lost in the bush.

But maybe there was something they needed to hide?

 

[Beans]

I haven't yet ruled out the possibility that S might have genuinely believed she was responsible for his disappearance because she had left him outside, but that he may actually have been harmed when outside by J, who might have been more than happy to let her shoulder the blame. S may even still believe it.

This scenario feels less likely than a gp duo conspiring to cover something else up though. I fear there's potentially a very dark element to all of this.

 

[katydid23]

I'm like you in terms of knowing what farmers would do in terms of lunch. Would they come home, would they they take it with them? Would Josie have maybe brought lunch out to Jess if she arrived later?

For Jess to have been excluded as a POI by police, she has to have been away from the "incident" when it occurred. If Jess and Josie were together the whole day, then that really means only Shannon could be responsible.

Unless the little boy had met his fate the night before. And was hidden or disposed of before sunrise. And that morning Jess thought he was still asleep when she left very early that morning, to go mend fences.

BUT, then there would be no discrepancies in the respective timelines would there?

There is always going to be inconsistencies during a cover up. imo

 

[katydid23]

But I think Jess agreed with these reports?
Who she worked with.
Who stayed with children.

But we don't know exactly when he was harmed.

Besides---let's say she was alone some of that day, while Josie went home to get lunches to bring back?

Maybe they all agreed it would be better to tell the police that J and J were together ALL DAY, because that would protect them both from false accusations? And Jess agreed to that but not for malicious reasons?

And she is not a suspect.

So...
everything that was reported was corroborated by her, no?

But maybe what was corroborated was not that relevant because he was harmed at a different time?

Except SOME discrepancies.



JMO

 

[pipj]

You know what gets me?
That regardless of alllllll the other information we have (or don’t have), there has never seemed to be any physical evidence that Gus was at the property, full stop.
No footprints.
No clothing.
No belongings.
Pause and think on that a moment.

How long had Gus and Mum been living on the property?

Because if you have had any dealings with children of Gus’ age, you will know, without a doubt that 4 year olds leave stuff EVERYWHERE. I mean toys, hats, shoes, socks, stones and sticks, sand, dirt, sticky handprints, crumbs, plush toys, figurines, art and craft stuff, story books, lego etc etc etc

Footprints a PLENTY should’ve been stamped and stomped from one end of that property to the other (at least around the house).

But we have seen media reports saying “no physical evidence” he was there.
Does that include any small clothing? Dirty laundry? Little shoes? Child-friendly foods? Toys in the bathtub? Bedding?

In the absence of any remarkable items or footprints around the immediate house means he WAS NOT OUTSIDE.

Are we looking at a situation where Gus was contained indoors only?
And why would that be?

Just these points have been sticking in my head.
And I know that police have said the parents are in the clear, but police could be playing a long game here. Don’t assume that what they tell the public is everything they have, or in anyway 100% truth.

Just my thoughts.

 

[katydid23]

I haven't yet ruled out the possibility that S might have genuinely believed she was responsible for his disappearance because she had left him outside, but that he may actually have been harmed when outside by J, who might have been more than happy to let her shoulder the blame. S may even still believe it.

This scenario feels less likely than a gp duo conspiring to cover something else up though. I fear there's potentially a very dark element to all of this.

That's possible. It's thinking outside the box, which is good because we have to break through the original narrative the 3 adults put out there. imol

 

[SouthAussie]

Just re-reading the police report from yesterday. The police searched also on 2nd February this year ... 4 days ago.
Not only on 14th and 15th of January this year.


Det. Supt. Fielke said as a result of recent investigations on 14 and 15 January 2026 detectives attended Oak Park Station and executed a search warrant.

On 2 February 2026 Task Force Horizon officers searched several locations around Oak Park Station for the remains of Gus.

https://www.police.sa.gov.au/sa-police-news-assets/add-to-all-lsas/disappearance-of-gus-lamont-declared-a-major-crime

 

[SouthAussie]

You know what gets me?
That regardless of alllllll the other information we have (or don’t have), there has never seemed to be any physical evidence that Gus was at the property, full stop.
No footprints.
No clothing.
No belongings.

We don't know that. We are not privy to what the police have or haven't seen that belongs to Gus.

imo

 

[katydid23]

Do we know if they had any employees that worked at the farm? I feel like with a property that big they would have some kind of help for mustering and such.

I've always thought the case was sus but I've also always felt like it wasn't the parents or grandparents but someone else who lived or worked at the property

There were reportedly workers who came to the property for shearing, etc.

But at the time Gus went missing, there were no other adults, besides the 3 family members , on the property.