Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

[Springs4]

That's ok, but I think you've missed my point. As I said, I was addressing specific claims in OP's post. I won't reiterate as you can reread it if you want.

Moo I don't see any source (including what I could read from the DM) inferring or otherwise claiming Gus had no belongings at Oak Park in Sept 2025.

OTOH multiple local and national Australian msm in late Sept and early Oct 2025, reported police referring to Oak Park Station as a place where Gus resided with his mother and grandparents. Whether that was all year round, whether he was at that time commuting between the station and the home being renovated by the father is not relevant. I rely on police statements as reported by msm to infer that Oak Park was a place Gus regularly resided at. Therefore IMO he had belongings there.

ETA I agree to disagree at this point and moving back to the current state of affairs.

Not how you originally stated but a good switch up by you to maintain your position. Information, if correct, is highly relevant as it changes the dynamic considerably. To be fair, you don't know & neither do I

 

[Bats]

@Bats Here is the article. Sky News.


"But they will keep pressure up. They do believe they have a suspect in mind. They will keep working towards charging that individual, but we're a very long way from anyone being found guilty at this stage."

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Thanks @SouthAussie

To me, it seems they are a long way off, based on what the investigator said in the presser but at the same time, I can't imagine why they'd do the presser without them being certain. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

@Old Soul yes agreed. They can take their time here. Perhaps they are expecting those forensic results to only add strength to the evidence they already have?

 

[spiritualdreaming]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2019679439152640306

Mentions in here that a helicopter scoured the property again on Monday (2nd February)

 

[SouthAussie]

@Old Soul yes agreed. They can take their time here. Perhaps they are expecting those forensic results to only add strength to the evidence they already have?

And the ABC says that the January search was a forensic search at the property. On top of taking items (a vehicle, motorcycle and some electronic devices) for further forensic analysis.


Detective Superintendent Darren Fielke said police executed a warrant at the property in January, conducted a forensic search and seized items.

Gus Lamont's grandparents 'absolutely devastated' by major crime declaration

The grandparents of missing four-year-old boy Gus Lamont say the family has "cooperated fully with the investigation and want nothing more than to find Gus and reunite him with his mum and dad".

www.abc.net.au

 

[KaleidoscopeP]

I for one have not ruled out that he didn't wander somewhere and got stuck.
Searches have missed missing people in the past. many times.

Just because the Police say it, doesn't mean it's not still a possibility, unless they know something solid that we don't. which could be possible.

The fact that they do say it makes me think they have more than changing timelines.

I have a problem with jumping on someone because their memory four months later has changed.
If it was me, I'd be in trouble. This many months later I'm sure my memory would have changed too.

People's memories do change over time.

Over time you start to doubt your recollection.

And then there's age related possible memory problems


So far, nowhere near enough information for me to know for a fact that they have a suspect who committed a crime.

You wouldn’t forget who was the last to see the child though…

 

[KaleidoscopeP]

The kind of thing elderly farming types would do, IMO.

Or possibly people wanting to give information anonymously IMO

 

[Kemug]

Anything previously told shouldn’t be taken as true. Imo we don’t know who was at the property when Gus was killed.

Josie was indeed the gun toting grandparent of the couple.

And also I believe was the one who had a huge row with Jess's hubby, and wouldn't let him on the property.

 

[Bats]

And the ABC says that the January search was a forensic search at the property. On top of taking items (a vehicle, motorcycle and some electronic devices) for further forensic analysis.


Detective Superintendent Darren Fielke said police executed a warrant at the property in January, conducted a forensic search and seized items.

Gus Lamont's grandparents 'absolutely devastated' by major crime declaration

The grandparents of missing four-year-old boy Gus Lamont say the family has "cooperated fully with the investigation and want nothing more than to find Gus and reunite him with his mum and dad".

www.abc.net.au

Those words from criminologist Vincent Hurley are spot on!

 

[Kemug]

I’m just throwing this in the mix here because it appears generally people are assuming JM senior was in on something. It is entirely possible that SM has (allegedly) acted alone and JM & JM were completely in the dark on what really happened. It feels to me people tend to assume JM is automatically involved.

MOO

Well, we have seen that JM is the one with the temper.

 

[SouthAussie]

And also I believe was the one who had a huge row with Jess's hubby, and wouldn't let him on the property.

I have the impression that the police are looking at Shannon. Just my own impression from what I have read. We know absolutely nothing about her personality traits because she has kept a very low profile.

I feel that people have super-imposed their own feelings onto her, when we actually know nothing at all about her personality.

imo

 

[Kemug]

But she worked with JM in the paddock.
She told the times to Police.
Did JM leave her?
At what times?
Did they go together?
Did they return together?

We know nothing.

When did the alleged attack take place?
When did she last see her son alive?

Police only now have a suspect.
After 4 months.

JMO

Jess may have been scared of JM her entire life.

 

[Kemug]

Re Andrew Ey…

“A LAWYER from a prominent legal family has been charged with assaulting a police officer by allegedly poking him in the chest with his finger.
Andrew Ey has been charged with assaulting, hindering and resisting Constable Barry Purnell as the officer tried to detain a friend of Ey’s at Norwood on Friday, October 3, last year.

His father, Stephen Ey, has acted in numerous high profile murder and drug cases as well as representing high profile elite sportsmen and prominent members of the community.”

Oo, I wonder how he and JM are going to get on together?

 

[wvmoonangel]

Does Australia have cadaver dogs? I've never thought he had wandered off,it's just hard to believe a kid this young can just wander off within minutes and disappear.

 

[Kemug]

I just had a horrible thought - what if Gus's little body is found with a bullet in it?

 

[knowledgethirsty]

Yeah, I still found it interesting - especially to be charged for finger pointing how embarrassing.

acquital for Frankie Marshall case interesting........ a very interesting case. hmmm

 

[Athena Holmes]

Yes I'd agree, not usual even on a rural property where guns are used more frequently for pest etc control.

Definitely not normal in the UK! Personally I wouldn't consider a child to be safe around someone with such a visibly dangerous temper.

 

[SouthAussie]

There is an article from June 2023 in The Advertiser. It is about .... In SA’s criminal courts, these are the lawyers to call when you’re in big trouble.

Notably, both Shannon and Josie's lawyers are on the list. (Well, the managing director and business partner of Shannon's lawyer is.)

The Advertiser says that Andrew Ey has a commanding courtroom presence, but has an easygoing manner with his clients.

The Advertiser says that Craig Caldicott, who is the business partner of Casey Isaacs (Shannon's lawyer), had the state's bikies laws successfully struck down as unconstitutional. He also appeared in R vs Ridgeway, where an arrest was deemed as police entrapment and unconstitutional.

Legal eagles that soar above the rest

 

[Total_C]

I’ve posted plenty about why I never believed the wandered off theory, so I won’t rehash all of that again. It always felt wrong to me, and I’ve said that consistently from the start. What we’re seeing now doesn’t surprise me, even if it’s grim.

What I keep trying to do is put myself in the position of the person who knows the truth.

And I can’t get there.

I can imagine panic. I can imagine an accident or negligence. I can imagine that first moment where you realise something has gone terribly wrong and your brain is racing. But I keep hitting the same wall.

What could I have done that would make deceiving everyone feel like the better option?

Because this isn’t passive. This isn’t freezing up. This is an active choice made over and over again. Letting a massive search run. Letting people hope. Letting police, volunteers, neighbours waste time and energy while you know the truth. That’s not a single bad decision. That’s sustained behaviour.

So what does the truth look like in your mind if this feels preferable?

If it was an accident or negligence, owning up is horrific but it’s finite. Charges. Consequences. Public shame. But a cover up like this suggests something more. Something that makes the original truth feel completely unlivable. Something that turns this was a terrible accident into everything ends if this comes out.

Intoxication. Prior incidents. Serious negligence. Risk of other children being taken. Something about the circumstances that makes the truth indefensible even to yourself.

I’m not talking about cartoon evil. I’m talking about a person who decides that lying, wasting resources, and allowing false hope is acceptable because the alternative feels worse.

That’s the part I can’t get past.

So I’m genuinely asking others here, not for theories about who, and not for timelines or mechanics.

What kind of persn does this?
And what could they believe they were responsible for that justifies all of it?

Because whatever that answer is, it explains far more than the wandered off story ever did.

 

[Lukey2121]

Does Australia have cadaver dogs? I've never thought he had wandered off,it's just hard to believe a kid this young can just wander off within minutes and disappear.

Yes but the specialised police units are only in QLD and NSW. They’re flown to other states when needed.
They were used in the latest search for Des Freeman in Victoria this week.

 

[SouthAussie]

I’ve posted plenty about why I never believed the wandered off theory, so I won’t rehash all of that again. It always felt wrong to me, and I’ve said that consistently from the start. What we’re seeing now doesn’t surprise me, even if it’s grim.

What I keep trying to do is put myself in the position of the person who knows the truth.

And I can’t get there.

I can imagine panic. I can imagine an accident or negligence. I can imagine that first moment where you realise something has gone terribly wrong and your brain is racing. But I keep hitting the same wall.

What could I have done that would make deceiving everyone feel like the better option?

Because this isn’t passive. This isn’t freezing up. This is an active choice made over and over again. Letting a massive search run. Letting people hope. Letting police, volunteers, neighbours waste time and energy while you know the truth. That’s not a single bad decision. That’s sustained behaviour.

So what does the truth look like in your mind if this feels preferable?

If it was an accident or negligence, owning up is horrific but it’s finite. Charges. Consequences. Public shame. But a cover up like this suggests something more. Something that makes the original truth feel completely unlivable. Something that turns this was a terrible accident into everything ends if this comes out.

Intoxication. Prior incidents. Serious negligence. Risk of other children being taken. Something about the circumstances that makes the truth indefensible even to yourself.

I’m not talking about cartoon evil. I’m talking about a person who decides that lying, wasting resources, and allowing false hope is acceptable because the alternative feels worse.

That’s the part I can’t get past.

So I’m genuinely asking others here, not for theories about who, and not for timelines or mechanics.

What kind of persn does this?
And what could they believe they were responsible for that justifies all of it?

Because whatever that answer is, it explains far more than the wandered off story ever did.

Remember that Superintendent Mark Syrus said, at the first search, that it was unusual and out of character for Gus to have wandered off? (Maybe something Gus' mum told them.)

Pretty sure that police have been investigating this angle from the get-go, as well as the abduction and being lost alternatives.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/whos-who-in-the-search-and-investigation-11-key-people-in-gus-lamont-case/news-story/26fa48e1bc23d5624b09ab90a396c805?amp