Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

  • #4,561
If Jess' parents are indeed responsible for his death and disappearance, I just can't with them. How do you see your daughter in utter distress and not try to alleviate it? How do you prioritize your needs over hers?

She may never forgive you for the death, but you know what she'll never never forgive you for? The death AND the ANGUISH of not knowing when she learns you knew.

Obviously I can't speak for Jess, but as a mother, I can imagine the depth of betrayal.

It would go toward mercy if they'd own it now. Let LE bring that little boy home, to his parents. Give them that.

JMO
 
  • #4,562
Re reinterviews.

Some say that every time one recollects something,
the recollection differs slightly from the previous one :)

It is something connected with how a brain stores memories.

Is it true?

If someone asked me about detailed day routine from 4 months ago
I would stare emptily into the space.

But I understand this day was "special" in horrific way.
And we usually remember clearly such distressing events in detail even with passage of time.

JMO
Memories are definitely less fixed and reliable than we like to imagine. Also maybe something to consider, but people's memories can also be influenced by what they believe happened, details can be magnified or minimized to fit the story as your mind attributes significance to them.

In this case, for the sake of the hypothetical, imagine the major crime designation is true, one of the grandparents actually did something (whether harming him directly or just covering up an accidental death) and the other two didn't know anything about it. In the initial panic to find Gus, fully believing he was lost out there and time was running out, your memory and account of what happened that day would likely revolve around that at first. But then time passes, and you're no longer looking for him alive and you're maybe still living in close quarters with the one who did it, someone who's maybe just acting wrong. Maybe you start to have doubts. The way you remember that day is likely to change if you don't believe he wandered away anymore. The significance of details shifts. You don't see the story the same way anymore, and so you won't tell it the same way anymore.
 
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Was it said what the category "detections of interest" meant? Does it mean that something living or recently deceased was detected but the program can't determine what type of animal? Or is it a tactful expression for "potential remains of a child", each instance of which would warrant priority on-ground examination?
They didn't specify in the presser, but they did also say that they didn't find anything dropped by him (such as the hat, toy shovel, shoes, etc. that posters earlier on thought he'd be likely to lose at some point). So maybe at a guess picking up things in unnatural colors and shapes showing up on the landscape, anything irregular. Every bit of blue that ends up being a bit of garbage blown in caught under a bush instead of a Minions shirt. As well as possibly holes, crevasses, rocks, abandoned vehicles or equipment, vegetation or debris that could conceal a child. Maybe patches of earth that look recently disturbed. MOO.
 
  • #4,564
Was it said what the category "detections of interest" meant? Does it mean that something living or recently deceased was detected but the program can't determine what type of animal? Or is it a tactful expression for "potential remains of a child", each instance of which would warrant priority on-ground examination?

I was curious about this too. Everything else was so detailed. Seems like it's something they didn't want us to know about (yet) so gave it the vague 'detections of interest' title. MOO
 
  • #4,565
I mean, this was so obviously what happened. I wonder how people that VEHEMENTLY defended the family feel now?

I don't think this (direct involvement by a family member in Gus' disappearance) was obvious at all nor do I think it's still obvious. Because "wandering away" scenarios do happen, families do search for hours themselves before calling, the timelines sometimes aren't clear, there aren't always any clues found.

Mind if I ask what made this case different for you?
 
  • #4,566
Was it said what the category "detections of interest" meant? Does it mean that something living or recently deceased was detected but the program can't determine what type of animal? Or is it a tactful expression for "potential remains of a child", each instance of which would warrant priority on-ground examination?

I am guessing that it is whatever looked like it could be a being, but was unidentifiable to the AI parameters that were set. Because the AI program seemed to be set (by the shown results) to identify beings.

There would likely be other beings out there. Like maybe large lizards. Lace Monitors found in the region can be up to 2 metres in length. And I didn't notice any emus on the list. There are a ton of emus in our SA outback.

imo

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(from the 13:06 mark in the presser video)
 
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  • #4,567
I am guessing that it is whatever looked like it could be a being, but was unidentifiable to the AI parameters that were set. Because the AI program seemed to be set (by the shown results) to identify beings.

There would likely be other beings out there. Like maybe large lizards. Lace Monitors found in the region can be up to 2 metres in length. And I didn't notice any emus on the list. There are a ton of emus in our SA outback.

imo

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(from the 13:06 mark in the presser video)
Looking at that list again, the detections actually total to 22,958, not 23,304 as stated. I'd say there must be another page somewhere, but the exclusion has to be deliberate filtering because the list is sorted by quantity most to least.
 
  • #4,568
Things that are left out of the media timelines ....

1) Gus seen in town by locals, very clingy and cosie with gran. Not anything about being seen in town with either parent. So gran very close to Gus.
2) Dad Josh moves out due to tension with Gran Josie, starts preparing a home for Gus and mum Jess away from Grans. Dad arranges a childcare place for Gus a long distance away from Grans homestead, so Grans will no longer have regular sustained contact or control over care of Gus.
3) Gran Josie shows prepared to run the show and threaten any defiance or talk that does not like with a gun in hand.
4) Gran Shannon is caring for kids while Gran Josie is looking for lost sheep with mum Jess. Gus dissappears with no trace, bringing to a halt dad's plans to move Gus out of care of grans.

Add that to the things police have stated...and look around at how often grandparents take extreme steps to stop an estranged parent having access or increased custody.
 
  • #4,569
I don't think this (direct involvement by a family member in Gus' disappearance) was obvious at all nor do I think it's still obvious. Because "wandering away" scenarios do happen, families do search for hours themselves before calling, the timelines sometimes aren't clear, there aren't always any clues found.

Mind if I ask what made this case different for you?
It was obvious to me due to many reasons, but mainly the hostile and aggressive behaviour of one of the grandparents.

In Australian culture this is not normal.
 

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