Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

[Cagney&Lacey]

Putting Shannon's account of events aside and without any statements from Jess, we don't know when Gus was last seen alive. This could add 24 hours or more to the timeline. I understand with early starts required for farming Jess may have not seen Gus in the morning of the day of his disappearance. I would doubt that a mother would go to sleep without sighting her son so that leaves the entire day unaccounted for

 

[Bats]

I do not trust DM reporters, and object to approaching the family home when told not to.

However, unfortunately, my trust in the SA police was not helped by the claim that Josie Murray was waving a gun while speaking to the DM reporter because Josie had wanted to shoot a snake on the porch....

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I think you're being a little harsh on the police here.

Given what we know now, the police were probably thinking...OMG we're right in the middle of a sensitive police operation and these silly twits are going to ruin it for us. What are are we to do, slap a possible suspect with a misdemeanour and have the whole plan ruined? It's clear they had much more important things to deal with, one being keeping the lines of communication open...not have a possible suspect clam up.

IMO

 

[jepop]

Good call. I do remember wondering the same thing when first reading through the thread, but then saw it reported (at least by DM...). But you're right, it isn't clear if that's coming from police or just...one of the many inaccurate things that were swirling around MSM in the early days of all of this (for all we know, they were reading the speculation here and then reporting it as fact). So if it isn't something the police have mentioned directly, that's another thing to downgrade to the 'unverified rumors' pile, rather than the 'reported timeline with inconsistencies' pile.

Linked because found it mentioned in this one.

The mystery of angelic Gus, 4, who disappeared in the Outback

His grandmother says she saw him playing there at 5pm two Saturday evenings ago.Half an hour later, when Gus was called in for dinner, he had gone.

www.dailymail.co.uk

In regards to the official police statements and hence timeline I don't read the daily mail so I'm not in a position to talk about what's in the article you've linked. I think Police statements have been consistent on that aspect of the timeline.. I rely on the Police Statements exclusively and Australian msm who cite the content of those statements.

If I read a DM article I always analyse beyond the headlines before parsing out any possible 'facts' as opposed to editorial interpretation of them. A good example of inaccuracy and obfuscation in relation to some of the players in this case was just revealed by another poster.

Australia Post in thread 'AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025'

Yesterday at 5:52 PM

“It can now be revealed the couple had separated before Gus vanished, with Ms Murray (Jess) and her newborn son, Ronnie, living with her parents, Shannon and Josie Murray, on the remote station.”

“Several sources have told the Daily Mail that Mr Lamont attended Oak Park station two days after his son vanished.

The family friend claims Mr Lamont got into a furious row with Jessica's father, Josie, during the desperate search, after previous disputes.

Gus's devastated mother, Jessica, 39, has never spoken or appeared publicly since her son vanished, but locals say she is...

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ETA: Ha! I tried to read the link you attached to get to the actual content beyond the headline and lead in phrase, but like many of their articles this is an 'exclusive' unavailable to non- subscribers.

 

[Lemony]

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I think you're being a little harsh on the police here.

Given what we know now, the police were probably thinking...OMG we're right in the middle of a sensitive police operation and these silly twits are going to ruin it for us. What are are we to do, slap a possible suspect with a misdemeanour and have the whole plan ruined? It's clear they had much more important things to deal with, one being keeping the lines of communication open...not have a possible suspect clam up.

IMO

I agree. It could have been a real headache for the police and potentially disruptive to the investigation. It's likely that they were trying to contain a lot more than we'll know.

"Silly twits" was probably the family-friendly version of what police were really thinking behind the scenes!

 

[SouthAussie]

Putting Shannon's account of events aside and without any statements from Jess, we don't know when Gus was last seen alive. This could add 24 hours or more to the timeline. I understand with early starts required for farming Jess may have not seen Gus in the morning of the day of his disappearance. I would doubt that a mother would go to sleep without sighting her son so that leaves the entire day unaccounted for

Similarly, I doubt a mother would leave for work without checking on her boys ... even if they were still sleeping.

But there certainly would be more than ½ an hour (5-5:30) that the police would be looking at.

imo

 

[gerardo20]

*Respectfully edited by me...

I think you're being a little harsh on the police here.

Given what we know now, the police were probably thinking...OMG we're right in the middle of a sensitive police operation and these silly twits are going to ruin it for us. What are are we to do, slap a possible suspect with a misdemeanour and have the whole plan ruined? It's clear they had much more important things to deal with, one being keeping the lines of communication open...not have a possible suspect clam up.

IMO

I agree they probably didn't want the incident to ruin their strategy.
I also stated I agree we should place trust in police.
But I don't think I am being harsh.

Many police do a great service with complex and dangerous, high stakes job.
But there are also some who do not, and certainly some errors of judgment that should not be ignored.

Unfortunately I have witnessed a very damaging case of mistaken police strategy. In a case I was privy to, the police were shown to have not done their job, to have shown bias, distorted evidence and not done the basic investigations required. It was affirming to hear a district court judge correct the police, point out their errors, and award costs against police for the case against a person who the judge said should never have had the charge taken to court. The person was also brutalised during the initial arrest, doubly victimising.

So, yes, I give the police the benefit of the doubt and respect and appreciate their work. But I also take what they say with a grain of salt....and that especially goes for officer who provided us with the snake story.

 

[Old Soul]

In regards to the official police statements and hence timeline I don't read the daily mail so I'm not in a position to talk about what's in the article you've linked. I think Police statements have been consistent on that aspect of the timeline.. I rely on the Police Statements exclusively and Australian msm who cite the content of those statements.

If I read a DM article I always analyse beyond the headlines before parsing out any possible 'facts' as opposed to editorial interpretation of them. A good example of inaccuracy and obfuscation in relation to some of the players in this case was just revealed by another poster.

Australia Post in thread 'AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025'

Yesterday at 5:52 PM

“It can now be revealed the couple had separated before Gus vanished, with Ms Murray (Jess) and her newborn son, Ronnie, living with her parents, Shannon and Josie Murray, on the remote station.”

“Several sources have told the Daily Mail that Mr Lamont attended Oak Park station two days after his son vanished.

The family friend claims Mr Lamont got into a furious row with Jessica's father, Josie, during the desperate search, after previous disputes.

Gus's devastated mother, Jessica, 39, has never spoken or appeared publicly since her son vanished, but locals say she is...

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ETA: Ha! I tried to read the link you attached to get to the actual content beyond the headline and lead in phrase, but like many of their articles this is an 'exclusive' unavailable to non- subscribers.

The YouTube video posted by @Dotta in post #4662 outlines essentially everything that was in the Daily Mail article.
The journalist addresses conflicting hearsay accounts of whether Gus’ parents are in a relationship or separated. Certainly nothing factually reliable in that last part of the video.

 

[SouthAussie]

Aah, well spotted, thanks. Sounds like Daily Mail’s usual strategy, huge clickbait headline with very tenuous rumours to back it up.

Often it seems they write these inflammatory articles to provoke a response from the people they are pursuing….dredging up photos from Jess Murray’s school years is really scraping the bottom of the barrel for new content.

Well, 4 days ago they said that Jess & Joss were living together - they had spoken with an Adelaide neighbour.
Yesterday they said they were living apart - possibly based on an Oct 2025 conversation with a friend?
Both articles by the same reporter.

Feb 6th:

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Australia Post in thread 'AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025'

Friday at 1:33 AM

As the eyes of the public and media return to Yunta, the Mail can also reveal the boy did not live at the station - as had been widely understood - and instead lived with his parents, Jessica Murray and Josh Lamont, and his one-year-old brother Ronnie at an Adelaide home which, according to property records, is in Shannon Murray's name.
A neighbour on the street said the family lived at the address - located 320km south of where Gus vanished without a trace - but also spent a lot of time with Jessica's parents at their outback sheep station.

'I only saw him probably a couple of weeks...

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