• #4,961
Absolutely, I agree.
This is crazy! Covering up a death and disposing of the body right under Jess’ nose. The poor woman has lost her son and both parents in a short amount of time, it must be excruciating. Hope someone is looking after her.
I feel so sorry for Jessica and Joshua. My heart really goes out to them. There’s no rule book for dealing with this type of compounding grief. It would be extremely hard to navigate. IMO
 
  • #4,962
I feel so sorry for Jessica and Joshua. My heart really goes out to them. There’s no rule book for dealing with this type of compounding grief. It would be extremely hard to navigate. IMO
Me too. And I feel sorry for Ronnie losing his brother. It’s a huge 🤬🤬🤬🤬 show. The whole thing is terrible .
 
  • #4,963
Taking into account the newest charge and the incident with a reporter
it seems JM's dangerous handling of weapons is worrying pattern.

IMO
It indicates a person who exhibits reckless behaviour and disregard for basic safety protocols.

Where exactly was the weapon kept at home?
Was it locked securely?
Or not?

Did Gus come across it and fatal accident happen?

Isn't it another possibility?

🤔

JMO
 
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Taking into account the newest charge and the incident with a reporter
it seems JM's dangerous handling of weapons is worrying pattern.

IMO
It indicates a person who exhibits reckless behaviour and disregard for basic safety protocols.

Where exactly was the weapon kept at home?
Was it locked securely?
Or not?

Did Gus come across it and fatal accident happen?

Isn't it another possibility?

🤔

JMO
I don’t think you would cover up an accident shooting and dispose of the body . Can’t help thinking you’d only cover it up if there was previous abuse/ harm / neglect . You might cover up to protect a loved one .

Assuming there were only 3 people at the farm ( grandparents & mum ) one of them is guilty & 1 or both of them are covering up .
 
  • #4,965
Or did they hand the car back that was taken for forensic testing on his bail release??
She was released on 'police bail' to reappear in May, according to Channel 10 Late News
 
  • #4,966
  • #4,967
She also has a house in Adelaide where daughter & JL lived.
It was reported it is SM's house.
She seems to come from a well-to-do family.

JMO
Josie worked on the property with Shannon's father.
 
  • #4,968
I don’t think you would cover up an accident shooting and dispose of the body . Can’t help thinking you’d only cover it up if there was previous abuse/ harm / neglect . You might cover up to protect a loved one .

Assuming there were only 3 people at the farm ( grandparents & mum ) one of them is guilty & 1 or both of them are covering up .

But if there was alleged abuse/neglect,
wouldn't Mum notice it?
There would be signs, no?
And yet
she left both kids under the care of grandmother.
She visited them, helped with farm work and trusted them enough to bring kids there.
Mum is not a suspect.
There is nothing reported that baby R. suffered harm/abuse/neglect.
So why would Gus?

IDK.

JMO
 
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I very much hope that Josie has had the guns confiscated.
 
  • #4,970
I don’t think you would cover up an accident shooting and dispose of the body . Can’t help thinking you’d only cover it up if there was previous abuse/ harm / neglect . You might cover up to protect a loved one .

Assuming there were only 3 people at the farm ( grandparents & mum ) one of them is guilty & 1 or both of them are covering up .
I’m with you and doubt you would cover up a shooting accident. Keep thinking this has got to be a cover up of recent physical or sexual abuse as in September 27th 2025. Not sure which grandparent is guilty , it could be either. Who knows if both of them are covering up and how this is going to end.
 
  • #4,971
Alot of sympathy being expressed for Gus' mum on the thread ATM. Likewise, I can't fathom how the latest developments (suspect )must have added to her grief and sense of terrible, terrible loss. I hope she is supported IRL. Both her and JL.

I do wonder though, how she would feel if she or someone close to her were to read this thread right now, only to be confronted with moo pretty much baseless speculation, unconnected to the known facts regarding Gus' disappearance, concerning CSA. Jmo
 
  • #4,972
Josie being arrested for something supposedly unrelated reminds me of Daniel Martell's situation.

Hope the police are getting closer and closer to the truth.
 
  • #4,973
Alot of sympathy being expressed for Gus' mum on the thread ATM. Likewise, I can't fathom how the latest developments (suspect )must have added to her grief and sense of terrible, terrible loss. I hope she is supported IRL. Both her and JL.

I do wonder though, how she would feel if she or someone close to her were to read this thread right now, only to be confronted with moo pretty much baseless speculation, unconnected to the known facts regarding Gus' disappearance, concerning CSA. Jmo
There are social media sites and other forums which permit much more speculation and unverified information to be posted . Websleuths is at least moderated and insists on fact based reports.
 
  • #4,974
There are social media sites and other forums which permit much more speculation and unverified information to be posted . Websleuths is at least moderated and insists on fact based reports.
Yes, I'm aware. It's one of the main reasons I read and post on WS, not elsewhere.
 
  • #4,975
DBM
 
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  • #4,976
Moo, guessing that could well be either the opinion of the reporter (comparing this current case with other cases in past) and/or the editing style of the article, including headline?

I don't think this is something that investigators have said. At least no msm I've read are making a point of that possibility or reporting that SAPOL feel that way at this time. Jmo
ETA "...at this time"

Totally agree. I was responding to the absurdity of the DM post. Headline misleading as if it were fact.
 
  • #4,977
  • #4,978
Respectfully, not wanting to admit responsibility for an accidental death on a trampoline doesn't add up to me. Why fabricate a story (which isn't much better?) about leaving a 4 year old child unsupervised for 30 minutes in the very same unsafe environment (with access to said trampoline). Ultimately both scenarios result in the child's death. Why admit responsibility for one and not the other?
Again, just personal opinion, but think if it's something that had already been a point of contention between them that would carry a lot more guilt (anything that veers into 'I told you...' territory that could trigger an initial lie motivated by 'I can't tell Jess'). And more so if it was followed by failure to get proper medical attention for him when it could have saved his life. But this was just attempting to find an example of the kind of explanation that's the most purely accidental that might still explain an initial lie/cover-up that snowballed from there: even though it could be functionally the same, if everyone was fine with him being regularly allowed to play outside unsupervised for that long, on a personal level that makes a better story to blame than if he got killed on a safety hazard they didn't get rid of when Jess asked, or more so, let him play on behind her back. Think once an initial lie was made in the panic of the moment, it would be easy to quickly end up feeling up to your neck in it.

But that said, my personal suspicions around this are something darker happened than that, beyond just a tragic accident and a mistake, less 'innocent.'
 
  • #4,979
Josie being arrested for something supposedly unrelated reminds me of Daniel Martell's situation.

Hope the police are getting closer and closer to the truth.
Exactly what came to mind for me as well.
 
  • #4,980
Jess is not living there she’s long gone it’s only the grandparents at the homestead.

A suspect was declared on February 5th. The innocent grandparent must know who killed Gus so why haven’t they come forward? It’s starting to look like they both know what happened and one is covering up for the other IMO
Last I'd heard, she hasn't been sighted since the day and no one (in the public) knows where she or Ronnie are, rumors with a friend. To the point where Daily Mail were snapping pictures of nappies drying on the line as evidence she was still there in the initial aftermath. Assume the police know at least.

Fear can be a powerful motivator. If there was an abusive component to this family dynamic, the innocent grandparent might be terrified to come forward. They've been together for a very long time, much of it living off in isolation. That's a lot of time and opportunity to just completely break someone down until they don't have it left in them to defy your will and just meekly cooperate. And if there's an abusive component, the innocent grandparent would likely have a lot of experience covering for the abuser (hiding bruises, making excuses, downplay, protect...). Cults operate on similar mechanisms, just larger scale. And that's even without more active measures taken to keep them in line: close monitoring, threatening to hurt someone they love, confiscating phones, taking away vehicle keys. There are ways of keeping someone on a very short leash, particularly once they've been 'trained.'

Also can't rule out the power of old fashioned denial. A lot of people have a hard time wrapping their minds around the possibility that someone they think they know so well could do something so terrible then carry on like normal.
 

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