• #5,081
MOO because I can’t remember where I read it but this Bullyaninnie homestead is empty because Joy is now in a residential home for older people. I am not suggesting Joy has anything to do with this case.
 
  • #5,082
MOO because I can’t remember where I read it but this Bullyaninnie homestead is empty because Joy is now in a residential home for older people. I am not suggesting Joy has anything to do with this case.

So is it just sitting empty?
Nobody lives there?

Wow!
So maybe it should be examined really closely while searching for Gus!

🤔

JMO
 
  • #5,083
So is it just sitting empty?
Nobody lives there?

Wow!
So maybe it should be examined really closely while searching for Gus!
Yes that’s what I read but I can’t remember where, MOO
 
  • #5,084
Yes that’s what I read but I can’t remember where, MOO

It really blows my mind
that such massive land is owned privately
and so few residents to work on it.
Look at grandmothers at Oak Station, both over 70 and only their daughter helping.
It seems young people prefer bustling cities.

JMO
 
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  • #5,086
This looks like the same place. I know,such remote places, you literally would only see people if you drove to town and even then the same people that you’ve known your whole life. I can’t imagine it at all. It’s as though you could live in your own little kingdom and have your own rules, your own way of doing things and no one would witness it.
 
  • #5,087

No evidence found despite several locations searched in Gus investigation​




Police say they will maintain a presence in the area of South Australia's Mid North following the assessment of an outhouse, where concrete had recently been laid, and a water tank on a remote property.

One of those locations detectives focused on yesterday was a neighbouring property owned by the boy's family, about 30 kilometres west of Oak Park Station and more than 300 kilometres north of Adelaide.

Police told the ABC they inspected a water tank and an outhouse where cement had recently been laid on the remote sheep station.

Major crime detectives also scoured a property at Grampus, about 24 kilometres from Oak Park.

A cadaver dog, brought in from interstate to detect human remains, searched both properties, while a police helicopter flew to the Pualco Range Conservation Park, south of Yunta.
 
  • #5,088
Why had concrete RECENTLY been laid
if this farm/station is empty and allegedly nobody lives there?

Do the grandmothers take care of this farm as it is said to belong to family?

Besides,
the media showed some old ramshackle shed.
Was it the place with recent concrete??

How strange!!! 😵‍💫

JMO
 
  • #5,089
(How common is it to have a concrete floor in an outhouse on this kind of property?)

Just pondering -- could he have been placed there temporarily and later moved, and the concrete was then poured there to cover any possible traces of DNA that might have been otherwise detectable on the floor of the outhouse?
Probably not. Just a random thought I had.
 
  • #5,090
(How common is it to have a concrete floor in an outhouse on this kind of property?)

Just pondering -- could he have been placed there temporarily and later moved, and the concrete was then poured there to cover any possible traces of DNA that might have been otherwise detectable on the floor of the outhouse?
Probably not. Just a random thought I had.

I agree.
This empty farm would have made a perfect temporary hiding place.
Police were busy at Oak Park station that night looking for a boy.
Nobody mentioned this place.

This empty station is news to me.
I thought neighbours were nearby.

Hmmm... 🤔

JMO
 
  • #5,091
(How common is it to have a concrete floor in an outhouse on this kind of property?)

Just pondering -- could he have been placed there temporarily and later moved, and the concrete was then poured there to cover any possible traces of DNA that might have been otherwise detectable on the floor of the outhouse?
Probably not. Just a random thought I had.

Only speaking from experience, the ones I've seen / used had wooden floors.
 
  • #5,092
(How common is it to have a concrete floor in an outhouse on this kind of property?)

Just pondering -- could he have been placed there temporarily and later moved, and the concrete was then poured there to cover any possible traces of DNA that might have been otherwise detectable on the floor of the outhouse?
Probably not. Just a random thought I had.

I agree.
This empty farm would have made a perfect temporary hiding place.
Police were busy at Oak Park station that night looking for a boy.
Nobody mentioned this place.

This empty station is news to me.
I thought neighbours were nearby.

Hmmm... 🤔

JMO
I just wrote about this in a PM, and came back here to see you two discussing this idea, so I will post that here:

Last night, I was thinking about the use of cadaver dogs in the most recent search, and I was researching how long cadaver dogs are able to detect after a body has been moved - and found an interesting study.

Residual odor from previously decomposing human remains may remain in the soil and on surfaces long after the remains are gone. This study examined the ability of eight nationally certified HRD dogs (four dual purpose and four single purpose) to detect human remains odor in soil from under decomposing human remains as well as soils which no longer contained human remains, soils which had been cold water extracted and even the extraction fluid itself. The HRD dogs were able to detect the odor of human remains successfully above the level of chance for each soil ranging between 75% and 100% accurate up to 667 days post body removal from soil surface. No significant performance accuracy was found between the dual and single purpose dogs. This finding indicates that even though there may not be anything visually observable to the human eye, residual odor of human remains in soil can be very recalcitrant and therefore detectible by properly trained and credentialed HRD dogs
 
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Ok, yeah no. One wouldn’t use the private road between Bullyaninnie station and Oak Park station to head into town from Oak Park afaik.

I think it’s unsealed and would be strictly off limits to civilians or non family. Imo.

You’d take the Barrier Highway and go South West from Yunta town, then turn left onto Rucioch Rd just after Nackara, then keep going through to Bullyaninnie Road to arrive at the Bullyaninnie homestead if you wanted to travel from Yunta to Bullyaninnie. Then if you were driving to Oak Park station from Yunta you would probably take Netley Gap Sturt Vale Road and then veer right onto Oak Park Road to then arrive at the Oak Park homestead from there.

However if one was driving from Oak Park to Adelaide one may want to cut through the Bullyaninnie station, but I am honestly not sure how drivable that road between the two homesteads is. It might be more of a pathway you would use for an ATV, a motorbike or a horse, and not a car or ute as such. Of course, you couldn’t cut through the stations if you weren’t family or an invited guest as it’s all private property there and we know what happens when one steps foot into Oak Park property uninvited.



Jmo

Of course, if someone who lives at Oak Park and is a suspect, for example, in a major crime, and was wanting to hide the body of a child - they might use a motorbike and not a car, so really they could have gone anywhere they liked…. In theory. They could have gone to Bullyaninnie.

IMO
It does make sense to bury the body far away from Oak Park so there’s less chance of a discovery. Hopefully some phone pings lead the police to the site IMO
 

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