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Might be an error??
IMO, this seems the most likely explanation, unless there's follow-up elaborating on this clarifying that it's tied to Gus's father. It would be an easy mistake for a journalist to make.
 
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Another family member of missing boy Gus Lamont is no longer cooperating with authorities, as the five-month investigation into the four-year-old's disappearance widens.

While Gus's parents continue to assist police, two relatives previously involved in the inquiry are no longer cooperating, South Australian Police Commissioner Grant Stevens confirmed on Wednesday.


...two relatives previously involved in the inquiry are no longer cooperating...

Does that mean three in total are not cooperating, or just two total?

Is it mentioned which family members are no longer cooperating?
 
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...two relatives previously involved in the inquiry are no longer cooperating...

Does that mean three in total are not cooperating, or just two total?

Is it mentioned which family members are no longer cooperating?
The Grandparents.
 
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...two relatives previously involved in the inquiry are no longer cooperating...

Does that mean three in total are not cooperating, or just two total?

Is it mentioned which family members are no longer cooperating?
It says both parents are still cooperating, so we're out of Oak Part Station family members if it isn't referring to the Murray grandparents (since doubt they're talking about Ronnie). Same reason, think it's just that we're up to two total, since both were initially cooperative when the SAPOL investigation was for a lost child, then one stopped concurrently with the swing towards labeling this a major crime investigation, now the other one.

IMO, guessing if they did use the arrest as an opportunity to separate them for questioning, something didn't go well (whether during or after).
 
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So which one of the grandmothers is 75?
JM. Later articles confirmed by name that Josie was the one arrested for the firearms violation.
 
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If there has been some lax behaviour around guns and storage and safety then isn’t it possible that Gus could have picked one up and accidentally shot himself, this would explain a cover up as the family wouldn’t want their guns removed and face charges (whatever the charge would be I’m not sure).
Gus getting hold of an unsecured gun is another plausible thought re his accidental death, However no normal person would cover that up.

Accidents unfortunately happen, and the fundamental characteristics of normal, healthy human beings is to immediately render and call for assistance. If the victim passes, Family members grieve, and they blame, but they don’t cover up.

In the middle of that grief & self-blame etc, I balance a few hundred $ fine for unsecured firearms V possible many years in prison for all the other actions that may be added to that charge of unsecured firearms. … . ie. making a false police report, making false statements, causing a public nuisance, misleading police, falsifying evidence, interfering with a corpse, hiding a body etc etc.

I don’t see any reason for a cover up.

Just my opinion.
 
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South Australia Police returned to Oak Park Station, a 60,000ha South Australian property about 40km south of Yunta, on Monday, continuing their search for evidence connected to Gus's disappearance on September 27, 2025.

Detective Superintendent Darren Fielke said detectives suspected that a family member living at Oak Park Station was involved in Gus's disappearance.

However, they stressed that Gus's mother and father, Jessica Murray and Joshua Lamont, were not suspects.

Gus' grandparents Shannon and Josie Murray have both retained high-profile Adelaide defence lawyers after police said they had stopped helping with inquiries.
Police have launched a fresh search for evidence in the disappearance of four-year-old Gus Lamont at the remote station where he vanished

Police have launched a fresh search for evidence in the disappearance of four-year-old Gus Lamont at the remote station where he vanished
They said they were 'devastated' by the police announcement and insisted they were still cooperating with the investigation.

It is not suggested the couple have committed a crime.

Josie and Shannon made their first official joint statement through their lawyers to slam police, and said they want 'nothing more than to find Gus and return him to his mum and dad'.
 
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Good video in this link
Great video, I’m glad that car scrap heap was looked over with the cadaver dog.
I love watching those dogs doing their work, they look so enthusiastic and purposeful 🐶

That footage of that mining tunnel is the stuff of nightmares if you’re claustrophobic!
 
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I can't read the article but I would think the property they are referring to is actually owned by Shannon Murrays family (her maternal aunt)

The property(ies) in the Yunta area are not owned by the Lamont family. They are owned by the Murray family.
 
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If I were a caring neighbour, or a friend, I wouldn't know how to support Gus's mum and dad as they grieve the loss of their beautiful little guy.

And now, with his disappearance a major crime investigation, every waking moment of their mourning agony is poisoned by the terror they feel as they imagine exactly what happened to him, perpetrated by whom.

If one day they read here, may they feel warmth and solace, if only for a moment, knowing that we, along with myriad strangers throughout the world, grieve with them, and for them, and hold them in our hearts.

I wanted to acknowledge and applaud this comment. Pretty much daily I think about how the parents must be feeling, the trauma and grief, confusion, how their lives have changed forever. It makes me so sad for them. Sending them virtual support.
 
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Paywalled

Article states that a sheep station & outhouse, that was searched is owned by the Lamont family.
Typical slopiness in thinking

um...it belongs to Gus's family, Gus's surname is Lamont, so let's write it belongs to the Lamont family.....

Classic sloppy journalism ... not worth paying for!

Let's take this opportunity to remember Gus's OTHER grandmother, Josh's mum, Gus's Grandfather (presumably the Lamont that Gus got his surname from) and all the loved one's on Josh's side of the family...
 
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What makes you think this? One is cooperating and one isn't.
I think one grandparent is responsible for the death and the other grandparent isn’t. The guilty person knows they’re guilty, and the innocent one knows they’re innocent.
Because the innocent one remains at the property with the guilty one that tells me they are both in on it.
Hope that makes sense.
 
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I wonder if removing Josie from the property for a few hours could have been to have Shannon alone and cornered (if she’s the suspect) or to have her alone and feeling safe to speak to the police (if Josie is the suspect)?🤔
It could also be the reverse, if they think Shannon is the guilty one. Maybe they are putting pressure on Josie to tell the truth, and taking the opportunity to speak to her about the situation with Gus while Shannon is not there?
 
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But if there was alleged abuse/neglect,
wouldn't Mum notice it?
There would be signs, no?
And yet
she left both kids under the care of grandmother.
She visited them, helped with farm work and trusted them enough to bring kids there.
Mum is not a suspect.
There is nothing reported that baby R. suffered harm/abuse/neglect.
So why would Gus?

IDK.

JMO
Maybe Jess is just used to how strict her parents were? She might not recognise it as abuse. I've seen it with other cases here where daughters allow their parents to watch their kids even though they were abuse victims themselves as children. People get blind to it and accept it as normal?
 
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Yes, and in addition, sometimes police use an arrest for a minor violation in order to get the suspect into prison where they won't be a risk to the public or disappear. But that doesn't seem to be the purpose here.

It's possible that the arrest was exactly what it looks like and truly not related to the missing child. My only reservation about that is that I believe the police would likely turn a blind eye to minor violations when a family is in such deep sorrow.

On the other hand, if a person is about to be charged with murder, then an arrest for a minor violation and released, is just a whole lot of extra paperwork that will amount to nothing.
It's hard for me to believe that this firearms charge has no connection to this missing child incident. It seems like it is a minor infraction of some kind. WHY bother to bring the simple charges against someone in the middle of a possible homicide case?

I feel like there was some strategy involved. Maybe they wanted the two grandmothers to be separate from each other long enough for the detectives to speak to one or both of them alone?
 
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I wonder
if "not cooperating" of the other person was her lawyer's advice? 🤔
Like,
any talks with Police should be only with his presence?

JMO
 
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It's hard for me to believe that this firearms charge has no connection to this missing child incident. It seems like it is a minor infraction of some kind. WHY bother to bring the simple charges against someone in the middle of a possible homicide case?

I feel like there was some strategy involved. Maybe they wanted the two grandmothers to be separate from each other long enough for the detectives to speak to one or both of them alone?
To apply pressure? To try to break someone/s? To try & break an alliance?

Similar tactics were used in the WT case IMO, with still no charges related to WT many years later.


IMO
 
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To apply pressure? To try to break someone/s? To try & break an alliance?

Similar tactics were used in the WT case IMO, with still no charges related to WT many years later.


IMO
Definitely to apply pressure. The media was there! The police must’ve invited them?
 

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