Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, 43, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 - #14

[Berry]

http://www.crookedincanada.com/2012/05/20/allison-baden-clay-murder-death-penalty-gerard-mistress/

For me I agree GBC actions say this to the Canadian ..."The fact that he has hired lawyers, and has yet to make a formal statement to police regarding the murder of his wife, isn’t convincing anybody that he didn’t have something to do with his wife’s murder."

 

[minni]

Good point. However, I think people would have had a bit more respect if they appeared as genuinely greiving people. I don't know of anyone who is that cold. Sorry, but I will never be able to understand their actions at all. I think the general public has shed more tears than them.

Something isn't right there. IMO

I just cried my way through a box of tissues after ten minutes online...so.......

I hear THAT!

 

[Monty]

It's interesting to read posts re: BCs. IMO GBC could be a man of many faces, dependent upon his audience. This I believe has been witnessed by his interview regarding his missing wife.

 

[minni]

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I once stole a lolly at a shop when i was 5 and my Dad walked me all the way back to the shop and let the shopkeeper roar at me. Then he hugged me and told me that honesty is important and he bought me another lolly.THAT is what a loving family member does. They dont become complicit in the crime by being silent and ignorant.

thank GOD we have families like yours to learn from. I was adopted, and I am thankful EVERY SINGLE DAY, for being raised by such incredible loving parents.

(damn it I must be hormonal tonight!!! going to cry again, this time with gratitude for the 'kick arse' parents some of us have been lucky enough to have!)

 

[wakeskate]

Just a quick question for locals .......... I was driving inbound along Mt Crosby Rd this arvo, and half way between Kholo Creek and the Anstead mowing shop, I saw a very tall pole on the right hand side of the road, with what looks like a camera at the top. Does anyone know if it is a camera? It's probably not, but just thought I'd ask.

Can you find it on street view?
There was talk about a camera out that way to stop illegal dumping, but I haven't heard anymore about it. Given there are no lights I doubt it would work at night.

 

[Berry]

Hey Minni don't be too hard on yourself. I will bet my parking card that IF GBC is the murderer, then this man is a sociopath. That's what is so difficult. Individuals with sociopathic tendencies have a very different public persona to their private one. He has no sense of self & is a chameleon adopting the characteristics and beliefs of those he wants to charm. He knows all the talk...

His parents are intriguing in their "unusualness"... His sister seemed distressed & her body language indicated to me she knew far more than she let on.
It would be no stretch for me to fill in the spaces & see how he could be the killer or at least the accomplice.

This is where we need to be careful. People with these personality disorders are seemingly "regular"... so this man could well be completely innocent of murder but guilty of poor moral choices by our societal standards...

Your recoil after reading the transcript is very telling that you are compassionate & have a sense of authenticity. I hope you're okay. These personality types can really do our heads in...

Also Minni....his actions that see-sawed for poor Allison did her head in too, and I am sure she was made to feel guilty for 'knowing' he is an hole. It literally does your head in as we still love them and try to continue to think our way (logically) as to why this is happening to/in our lives. He is a sociopath....no 2 ways about it.

Remember....behind closed doors they flourish and maim and destroy those who are better than them. xxxx stay strong here with us honey. lease:

 

[minni]

Also Minni....his actions that see-sawed for poor Allison did her head in too, and I am sure she was made to feel guilty for 'knowing' he is an hole. It literally does your head in as we still love them and try to continue to think our way (logically) as to why this is happening to/in our lives. He is a sociopath....no 2 ways about it.

Remember....behind closed doors they flourish and maim and destroy those who are better than them. xxxx stay strong here with us honey. lease:

You are legen....wait for it.....berry....LEGENBERRY!!!

(thats my version of legendary in case you all think I have officially lost it )

 

[minni]

Also Minni....his actions that see-sawed for poor Allison did her head in too, and I am sure she was made to feel guilty for 'knowing' he is an hole. It literally does your head in as we still love them and try to continue to think our way (logically) as to why this is happening to/in our lives. He is a sociopath....no 2 ways about it.

Remember....behind closed doors they flourish and maim and destroy those who are better than them. xxxx stay strong here with us honey. lease:

It occurs to me that this is very close to home, and maybe I am 'reacting' because of this. sorry mods, probably OFF TOPIC, yet again :banghead:

 

[grannie]

The sigificance of this in our culture is that the Groom's father pays for the bar traditionally. IMO

Does this mean that the GBC's father did not wish to pay for wine, hence the dry wedding?

 

[Bayside]

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, 43, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 - #13

Hi all. I have been waiting for the following article to be linked from the Courier Mail this morning. Unfortunately it only appeared on my subscription and have not been able to locate it elsewhere. It is a letter from Geoff and Priscilla Dickie, dated 26 May, 2012 12 am. And IMO what is left out is almost as important as what is said.

I think if you read it carefully it says everything.

"It is with broken hearts that we write to thank the many hundreds of people who have supported us throughout the last five weeks as our world changed forever.

Words cannot express our heartfelt thanks to all who have shown us love and support throughout this very public journey of the tragic loss of our dearest daughter Allison.

We wish to thank all the agencies involved in the search and rescue of Allison, such as the Queensland Police, for their tireless efforts at the Command Centre where we were astounded by the amount of resources used in the search.

The dedication, courtesy, understanding and kindness shown to us by the serving police and officers is appreciated.

We thank the SES volunteers who came from far and wide to help in the search, in both sunshine and rain, and the Queensland Fire Service for their participation and assistance.

The Brookfield Show Society for the use of their facilities and the wider Brookfield community for their constant support and caring during our 11 days at the command centre.

Once again the overwhelming support and outpouring of sympathy for Allison, her three young daughters and our family through the hundreds of cards, with stories of the way she touched and changed lives and inspires others in many ways, will stay with us forever.

Thank you for your prayers, beautiful flowers and your donations to our precious daughter's appeal - they are greatly appreciated.

To Allison's best friend and her family, we thank you for your unfailing strength and support.

In closing, we THANK YOU all and ask you to remember Allison as she remains - Forever in our Hearts.

From the Dickie family and friends.

Thankyou and thanks to the original poster Logic27.

The Dickies are amazing people to write this, no wonder Allison turned out to be as much loved and respected as she was.

 

[Bayside]

For the record we do not drink wine but my husband stopped at the bottlo tonight and bought a bottle and told me I better get it chilled : )

I have been to a couple of dry weddings both times were for religious reasons.

 

[Monty]

Also Minni....his actions that see-sawed for poor Allison did her head in too, and I am sure she was made to feel guilty for 'knowing' he is an hole. It literally does your head in as we still love them and try to continue to think our way (logically) as to why this is happening to/in our lives. He is a sociopath....no 2 ways about it.

Remember....behind closed doors they flourish and maim and destroy those who are better than them. xxxx stay strong here with us honey. lease:

Couldn't agree more

 

[bellgirl]

Can you find it on street view?
There was talk about a camera out that way to stop illegal dumping, but I haven't heard anymore about it. Given there are no lights I doubt it would work at night.

Thanks wakeskate. I had a look on Street View, but there's only views of Ugly Creek, and then the Mower shop etc, and then a random shot of Mr Crosby Rd, but further towards Moggill Rd. You're right, with no lights, it would be useless at night - that's even if it is a camera. Thanks again.

 

[Cccclllaareb]

Not sure I'd read too much into the dry wedding. I intend to have a dry wedding and I'm not religious, just wouldn't like a special day to be spoiled by drinking and feel it is unnecessary. Seen weddings wrecked by drunken behaviour.

I recognise the tendency to bag the BCs for everything they do (and dont do ) but we don't know how they are in private. Yeah yeah no public thank you or emotional display etc etc I know- but who knows whats going on behind closed doors.

Good news about the reports being due back within a week! Seems promising.

The thank you from the dickies was very lovely indeed, what a sweet pair.

Well that's my two cents for the day

 

[Monty]

Definition of Antisocial Personality Disorder[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder"[/URL]

Callous unconcern for the feelings of others.
Gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations.
Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships, though having no difficulty in establishing them.
Very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence.
Incapacity to experience guilt or to profit from experience, particularly punishment.
Markedly prone to blame others or to offer plausible rationalizations for the behavior that has brought the person into conflict with society.


Does the above sound plausible regarding GBC?

 

[linette]

It's interesting to read posts re: BCs. IMO GBC could be a man of many faces, dependent upon his audience. This I believe has been witnessed by his interview regarding his missing wife.

AGREED!!! That says it all.

 

[Berry]

Does this mean that the GBC's father did not wish to pay for wine, hence the dry wedding?

I bet.....or the funeral.....or the divorce upsetting sons' life/business...grrr

:maddening:

 

[linette]

A certain saying comes to mind "Street angel, house devil." It's something a social worker referred to a few years ago.

 

[Berry]

For the record we do not drink wine but my husband stopped at the bottlo tonight and bought a bottle and told me I better get it chilled : )

I have been to a couple of dry weddings both times were for religious reasons.

.....a celebration?????????????????? come on fess up

 

[CJ60]

Can you find it on street view?
There was talk about a camera out that way to stop illegal dumping, but I haven't heard anymore about it. Given there are no lights I doubt it would work at night.

I made that post - just before you get to the bridge there is a sign saying there are cameras in the area - but I am not sure about there being a camera near the mower store; I thought there would be surveillance cameras attached to trees in 'illegal dumping hotspots'. Also, the sign may be there as a deterrent - no cameras. Wouldn't have a clue where they are. But I figured if anything had been picked up on camera out there - Allison would have been found sooner.