Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, 43, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 #18

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Ni, not railways sleepers cut in half. There are usually made from treated pine. The pine used to be treated with arsenic in Victoria at least, but that was stopped some years back due to the danger of arsenic poisoning, and it is now treated some other way. Usually made from radiata pine and often the trees will be felled when they reach the circumference of those 'kopper logs' and are then sawn into logs and treated.

Koppers logs are still treated with arsenic for many uses. As far as I know they have not banned that. Copper Cromium Arsenate(arsenic)-Known as CCA Use has only been restricted for use in applications where close human contact occurs, such as Decking, Playground equipment, Hand rails, Outdoor wood furniture. It has been 'deemed' safe still to use in things such as fence posts and many other outdoor uses.

There is CCA alternatives for those products that are used in close human contact.

Probably more info than you really needed or wanted on the good ole Koppers log. lol
 
  • #442
Same same in Canberra, W Creek

Totally off topic...but go Royals! Maybe it was just something us W Creekers said then!

I'm on the tea tonight :)
 
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Has there been anymore news please? I haven't been here today as i thought i would at least enjoy my birthday. I just felt like i needed a break from here. I wasn't being disrespectful or anything by not being here but sometimes i let it get to me more than i should :(
 
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I have googled Kopper logs and surprise, surprise, (to me), they are supplied by a company called Koppers, a subsiduary of a US firm. I have enclosed a link for anyone's interest. Now I know what koppers logs are. It probably attained the terminology over time and usage, much the same as when some people say "I am going to 'hoover' the carpet", meaning to vacuum the carpet. But the hoover brand of vacuum became so popular that the brand name seemed to replace the chore name. I've noticed this more particularly with people from the UK, where Hoover brand vacuum cleaners must have been very popular.

http://www.koppers.com.au/KW-Logs-and-Building-Poles/default.aspx

snap..I just posted at the same time as you I think, lol.. I was also going to post a link..no need now.:)

I believe Koppers are the company that manufactures them. I don't know that there are other companys/brands..could be wrong.
 
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Has there been anymore news please? I haven't been here today as i thought i would at least enjoy my birthday. I just felt like i needed a break from here. I wasn't being disrespectful or anything by not being here but sometimes i let it get to me more than i should :(

Happy Birthday!:partyguy:

Not officially any more news.
 
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Has there been anymore news please? I haven't been here today as i thought i would at least enjoy my birthday. I just felt like i needed a break from here. I wasn't being disrespectful or anything by not being here but sometimes i let it get to me more than i should :(

Hope you had a lovely day :)
 
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As exciting as it has been learning ALL about kopper logs, I hope there is some fresh news released in a minute haha. Didn't know what those logs were today, now I am armed with kopper log facts! Hopefully kopper logs are on my exams :-p
 
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Is there a link for the boarding up of windows? or is it just gossip ?

Gossip and I have to say I do not believe it.
 
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Has there been anymore news please? I haven't been here today as i thought i would at least enjoy my birthday. I just felt like i needed a break from here. I wasn't being disrespectful or anything by not being here but sometimes i let it get to me more than i should :(

Happy Birthday Angel1!!
 
  • #452
My question Sheerluck Holmes is how do you know for fact that all of these statements are true? How does any one of us know how cooperative or not this man has been to the police? People have indicated that he didn't attend the search base at the show grounds. Maybe that part is true. How do we know that he wasn't in touch by phone with people who were at the show grounds at this time or whether there was some other reason for him to not attend there? How do we know that he is not in deep personal grief in the privacy of his home? How do we know that he resisted his cars being forensically tested or resisted searches of his home etc? Where is the evidence for these statements?

My other point is that it is for the judicial system, through the police and courts to pronounce judgement of someone. A person's guilt or innocence shouldn't be decided by public poll. Until the judicial system identifies who the guilty people are, the public's perception should be irrelevant....the public don't have all of the facts. The perpetrators will be answerable to the public at the time a conviction is made. Until then we need to be patient.

Personally I find it a poor reflection on our society if these things are decided by brief media snippets of people combined with tidbits of local gossip. Allison deserves the judicial system to be thorough in ensuring they convict the right person(s). She would want no less. It also goes to say that all of her family including her in-laws deserve respect for her sake, the sake of her daughters and for the sake of all of the family. This is people's lives we are talking about. There is a lot at stake. Yes, I know, an innocent woman has lost her life......but let's make sure we make the right people pay for this horrid crime. There is too much at stake if the wrong people are charged. Imagine the loss to those girls if public opinion swayed and their father was charged and he was in fact innocent after all. Let's honour Allison and her daughters by at least being respectful of all members of her family while we wait for charges to be laid. Obviously when the person is charged they will deservedly face the full force of the law regardless of whether they are family or not.

I can understand why many people have come to the conclusion that they have but I for one don't believe that we have enough facts to pronounce guilt beyond reasonable doubt..........because of course we are rightly not privy to everything that the police know. In the meantime we need to respect people's individual ways of dealing with things. If I was in the situation that this family was in I would want that respect and lack of judgement whilst an investigation was occurring. We live in Australia...a very culturally diverse country. We should be respectful of individual difference. We should also uphold the right to justice and a fair trial too of course. Along with all of this we as Aussies are rightly intolerant of murder and other horrid crimes. However, despite our justified intolerance of such a horrid crime we should not forget our values in regards to justice, a fair trial and respecting individual difference in people's response to situations.

This is all just my opinion as I wait for justice to prevail for Allison and her family.

Seeking thank you! You have written so well many of the words I have tried to say in a number of posts in the past.. I never said it as well. But I do totally agree. Couldn't say it better, so thanks.
 
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Hope you had a delightful day !
 
  • #454
Has there been anymore news please? I haven't been here today as i thought i would at least enjoy my birthday. I just felt like i needed a break from here. I wasn't being disrespectful or anything by not being here but sometimes i let it get to me more than i should :(

Hey angel...Happy Birthday :)

No news so far today...the latest was the damaged GBC car...yesterday's news almost.
 
  • #455
Gossip and I have to say I do not believe it.

Same. It seemed to me that being bunkered down turned into being barricaded in and then somehow evolved into having boards nailed up :-s
 
  • #456
As exciting as it has been learning ALL about kopper logs, I hope there is some fresh news released in a minute haha. Didn't know what those logs were today, now I am armed with kopper log facts! Hopefully kopper logs are on my exams :-p

Now I hope everyone took notice and forever after will be able to inform all and sundry about the koppers log. ;)
 
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Same. It seemed to me that being bunkered down turned into being barricaded in and then somehow evolved into having boards nailed up :-s

Yeah that is what I think happened to.
 
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