Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, 43, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 #19

[whatif?]

Me or NBC Greg? Only reason I can think of to be loitering around a bus stop is if I was drunk and asked someone to pick me up or something. Which brings me to the point. Thurs night is a big pub night in Bris, I went drove past our local shopping center last night and it was packed. Imagine a lot of late stragglers.

True, if this is the reason your giving for NBC alledgedly being seen or not at the bus stop, then why would he be picked up there and not the pub?

 

[willough]

So he called and just said ' Allison went for a walk and didn't come back' and then just hung up? I doubt it. Would they not have asked questions themselves like 'Did you call ......?' I think they are saying he didn't give any other details about her going missing, not other associated details.

It did seem the Dickie's were pretty specific in saying that was ALL he said.

Taken from article :

He said Mr Baden-Clay had told them "she went for a walk and she didn't return - that's all he said"

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...hters-killer-parents-plea-20120504-1y2iz.html

 

[Rational]

You got that wrong ... someone else's turn now to do this list

I did one before and helped with this one!! Come on! lease:

 

[linette]

In that interview.....the word "returned" got to me. Almost like she was an inanimate object....eg I want my book "returned".....I have "returned" the dress to David Jones....Hmmmmmmmmmmm

I have to say I also thought the choice of the word 'returned' was odd.

 

[Makara]

Because he is wearing 2 hats and his mistress would not approve :sick:

Its called snooker. There were lots of things he could not say. He was in a catch 22.

Oh gawd, don't mention snooker. It makes me think of balls! :what:

 

[CaseClosed]

thanks CC, I did say that he was first a POI then at day 3 (i think) he was no longer, but I didnt mention how he has since been a POI due to the 'no comment' comments, which indicate he is and is suss in itself. The reason I didn't go further into what he was being considered as NOW, was that I was really focusing on those initial days and trying to point out that at this time, QPS were not looking at him. Even that morning when they were informed she was missing, I feel that they did not think GBC was suspicious, based on those comments from my post. So it led me to believe that something else caused them concern. They talked to GBC that morning, so I think something he told them made them very worried, because he said he was very worried. Am I making sense here? Im trying!! MOO :moo:

I also think that what was uncovered that morning could well have made the QPS believe they would be looking at a homicide, I just don't see evidence to imply that GBC was behind it, so I back you up on the unlawful homicide comment too. MOO :moo:

as for the cars, I agree that there is something of interest, some evidence that Allison was in one of those cars, and perhaps after she dies, or evidence of places the car/s had been that night, with or without her in them. MOO :moo:

The BC family homes...I wonder if this is standard procedure for people of interest, and now I wonder whether they raided the seniors based on old man at bus stop, rather than what I first thought, which was, GBC had evidence there. MOO:moo:

I sound like I am all for GBC's innocence today...and I have made a point of trying to identify points that would protest his innocence. This is not because I believe it, it is because I am doing a little bit of eliminating. If anyone can disprove any of the comments I post, then we can safely say he is not innocent. MOO :moo:

Thanks! I go with the statistics ... partner is the perp in the majority of cases.
Also, home declared a crime scene same day. I feel QPS suspected him from the beginning, but they can't say it out in the Media, therefore they changed it to be "no comment". I personally am not convinced about the old men at the bus stop being his father (I could be wrong) and I think the seniors home was raided because GBC was staying there. I have tried to find scenarios in my head (based on the KISS principle), which would exclude the husband, but I just can't see it. All iMO.

 

[minni]

Media reported what the Dickies said: "He told us she went for a walk and didn't come back ... that's all he said" . According to the Dickies, that's all GBC said, nothing else.

that's all he said to explain where she might be...but he could have quite possibly said other things that Mr Dickie didn't mention. He could have said, 'I don't know where she is, I'm really getting worried, we had an argument, she was upset last night, she wanted a divorce'.....you know, all or any of the above. maybe at that time, he really didn't realise she had been gone all night?

 

[Rational]

:floorlaugh:

Possumheart posted some great photos a few days back of her trip to the bridge. There's quite a few on Google Images too now...may save yourself a trip.

:floorlaugh:If it is really NGB he has been there already!! IMOO

 

[itsthevibe]

BBM

Quote:
Originally Posted by marlywings
Going by what he told the Dickies, one would assume he told them she went for a walk in the morning....

May 04, 2012 12:00AM

Speaking exclusively to The Courier-Mail yesterday, Mr Dickie and wife Priscilla recalled how life had become a nightmare since receiving the call from their son-in-law Gerard on Friday two weeks ago

"He (Mr Baden-Clay) just said she went for a walk and she didn't return - that's all he said," Mr Dickie said.

"If she was going for a walk in the morning, she'd have walked on the side of the road around Brookfield. She wouldn't have ventured into the middle of the bush somewhere."

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/q...-1226346302840

Sorry to harp on this, but is this wording telling or am I looking into it too much? Wouldn't it state something like: "she went for HER morning walk, or THE USUAL morning walk" something to that effect? Then it goes on to quote "IF she was..." could be disbelief and "she'd have walked ... around Brookfield" surely the Walking Group would know of her? IMO

Could just be that I need a break.

I agree with your thoughts on this - it is as if he is questioning Gerards version as stated to him.

 

[Liadan]

According to your post, you believe there were 3 people with the husband in one car?? I know Paul Tully said that up to 5 could have been involved, but I just find it difficult to believe. Can you tell us who the other 3 are in your opinion?

honestly -Sorry case closed- I am just being sensational to prove a point!!!! 5 people in the car - if you think about it a body and 3 or four people. But in a Prado maybe the driver the passenger and 3 adults plus what went on in the back- I do not think that the whole family would drive out to Kholo (GBC, ABC, EBC and the kids asleep) were really involved. But I just can't see if this was a family affair NBC being stuck at a bus stop when stuff was happening. He is way too much of the control freak to be 'waiting around'. So I guess I am siding with True - don't believe the bus stop scenario. maybe not homeless man and don't think it was NBC but yes indeed could have been anyone. Sorry if this post alarmed you - it was meant to present a different scenario for consideration only! Profuse apoligies if it did otherwise!

 

[willough]

:floorlaugh:

:floorlaugh:If it is really NGB he has been there already!! IMOO

That's why noone should go alone.....lol...One would be taking photos and there in the background would be NBC....One would almost call that a Twilight Zone moment.

 

[minni]

Thanks! I go with the statistics ... partner is the perp in the majority of cases.
Also, home declared a crime scene same day. I feel QPS suspected him from the beginning, but they can't say it out in the Media, therefore they changed it to be "no comment". I personally am not convinced about the old men at the bus stop being his father (I could be wrong) and I think the seniors home was raided because GBC was staying there. I have tried to find scenarios in my head (based on the KISS principle), which would exclude the husband, but I just can't see it. All iMO.

well, I think you are pretty much on the money. I have been on the GBC guilty band wagon for much of this thread. I still am, but always try and entertain other ideas, something about blaming him just always seems a bit off to me, but I try and see the good in everyone and this makes it hard for me to see the bad (apparently its a fault of mine haha) so I look and look for a way to make it not so. Even when I study a serial killer, I tend to look for reasons why they became who they did, trying to understand what is sometimes just incomprehensible.
I will stick with this for a little bit longer, and see if you can fully pick it apart...you are doing damn fine right now

 

[CaseClosed]

So he called and just said ' Allison went for a walk and didn't come back' and then just hung up? I doubt it. Would they not have asked questions themselves like 'Did you call ......?' I think they are saying he didn't give any other details about her going missing, not other associated details.

We can only go by what has been reported by the media or police, but I would imagine the Dickies would have provided more info to the reporter if in fact GBC had said more or if he had answered any of their questions.

 

[Rational]

Both parents could have been interviewed while their home was been searched. My problem with your scenario about maybe the father in law being the perp is that I don't see a motive. What would be his motive???

He gets his mortgaged paid out which was upped to pay for the business losses after the GFC

 

[CaseClosed]

honestly -Sorry case closed- I am just being sensational to prove a point!!!! 5 people in the car - if you think about it a body and 3 or four people. But in a Prado maybe the driver the passenger and 3 adults plus what went on in the back- I do not think that the whole family would drive out to Kholo (GBC, ABC, EBC and the kids asleep) were really involved. But I just can't see if this was a family affair NBC being stuck at a bus stop when stuff was happening. He is way too much of the control freak to be 'waiting around'. So I guess I am siding with True - don't believe the bus stop scenario. maybe not homeless man and don't think it was NBC but yes indeed could have been anyone. Sorry if this post alarmed you - it was meant to present a different scenario for consideration only! Profuse apoligies if it did otherwise!

I didn't alarm me ..

 

[CJ60]

exactly, I KNEW about the affair long before ABC went missing!

I would never dream of being a bloody verified user unless I could contribute in a legal sense or legal conversation such as DS or Hawkins. Certainly not in a freaking 'im a local' sense! ya crazy???

Now this has to be one of the most sensible posts I have read in days!

And no matter how much we want to know what has happened, if I knew someone on the inside ( QPS, Legal etc) that let something slip that had not been released to the media, I feel it would be a tremendous breach of their trust to post that information on this forum; not to mention the fact it may damage the investigation.

Ok - shoot me now...

 

[jubillee]

According to your post, you believe there were 3 people with the husband in one car?? I know Paul Tully said that up to 5 could have been involved, but I just find it difficult to believe. Can you tell us who the other 3 are in your opinion?

Sounds like a Monaro on a saturday night in Brisbane street:floorlaugh:

 

[aussie_mum]

We can only go by what has been reported by the media or police, but I would imagine the Dickies would have provided more info to the reporter if in fact GBC had said more or if he had answered any of their questions.

What questions did they ask? Who did he speak to? When did he call, before or after he called the police? Was that mentioned in the article? No? Then why would you think other info would be included. What you are saying is that GBC called and both the Dickies answered and it went like this...

Ring ring ring ring
Dickies: Hello, Dickies speaking.
GBC: Allison went for a walk and didn't come back
End of phone call.

Because apparentally that is all he said.

 

[Liadan]

Oh gawd, don't mention snooker. It makes me think of balls! :what:

Balls??? lacking???? this case ???? never!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DunnoZo]

Both parents could have been interviewed while their home was been searched. My problem with your scenario about maybe the father in law being the perp is that I don't see a motive. What would be his motive???

Need more time (ha) to piece it together for myself, and I know it may add me to the list of nutty personal anecdotes, BUT, when I was a kid, my grandfather actually chased my dad through the house with a knife when my dad told him that he & my mom were splitting up. "How can you do this to MY family" .This was not a violent man in any way before this (age approx.70)
He is the Bwanna..maybe has the same value in family? (ha again)

also, may be financially, he knew it would be the end of them all..

I Dunno. family waiting eagerly for dinner.. MOO