Found Alive Australia - CC, 3, Bundaberg QLD, 10 April 2014 - #1

[Amee]

We now know who the car belonged to


Mr Campbell said he discovered “toe prints” on his Ford Falcon Ghia directly below the window, however police have not confirmed this. He believes the window hadn’t clicked shut.

Mother-of-four Tammy, who was distraught as she carried their youngest, baby Max, is a stay-at-home mum.

http://www.news.com.au/national/que...knows-the-family/story-fnii5v6w-1226880440041

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Is it really more common for families with young kids to have people over drinking mid-week in that part of QLD? I don't think there is anything 'normal' about doing that, it sounds like alcoholism to me to want to drink every night.

 

[riverjewel]

i thought so too....unless she was in the sleeping bag, along with her teddy, and it was scooped up altogether.

 

[catswhiskers]

I'm guessing this may be the same person.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-26/man-avoids-jail-over-attack-on-police/4780896

Hard to believe that person didn't get any jail time for biting and spitting blood at police, on top of the alcohol related charge. Someone who appears to be his partner commented that he had been away for 8 months or so back in Feb.

 

[icu nurse]

I've got a bad feeling about this one.

Mostly I'm praying that the fathers somewhat bizarre statements are right - that someone known to the family, in a misguided attempt to do the right thing - maybe someone who can't have kids -has taken her to give her love and attention and hell, maybe even a bedroom to sleep in.

I can't see it happenning - but it's a nice thought to cling to.

Those remarks though - they chill me as much as they give me that pleasant dream to hold.

But at the same time, who knows what we might say under the same pressure? Or what direction or coaching about your statement the police may have offered?

 

[h.isobel]

Is it really more common for families with young kids to have people over drinking mid-week in that part of QLD? I don't think there is anything 'normal' about doing that, it sounds like alcoholism to me to want to drink every night.

I agree completely, I have two little ones and would never think to do this. Im Australian so I understand we do have a drinking culture but a drinking night at my place consists of one or two shared bottles of wine after the kids go to sleep.

Edit: Just to add, even this is rare, don't want to come across as an alcoholic.

 

[Amee]

i thought so too....unless she was in the sleeping bag, along with her teddy, and it was scooped up altogether.

:wagon:


riverjewel :seeya:

 

[revampz]

Is it really more common for families with young kids to have people over drinking mid-week in that part of QLD? I don't think there is anything 'normal' about doing that, it sounds like alcoholism to me to want to drink every night.

haha na, believe me......all over queensland except for probably Brisbane, it would be normal in some "scenes"......... not mine, personally but most definitely happens..... A lot of time it would be just a casual thing, mate dropped over, have a beer............the question here I think is going to be extremely important is: is that a common occurrence and is it a couple of beers?

Quite a lot of pisspots up here

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I agree completely, I have two little ones and would never think to do this. Im Australian so I understand we do have a drinking culture but a drinking night at my place consists of one or two shared bottles of wine after the kids go to sleep.

Edit: Just to add, even this is rare, don't want to come across as an alcoholic.

I know right? I don't have kids, but I only drink on Saturday afternoons. The people I've been aware of who drink during the week with kids in the house, in the small town I live in are the alcoholic types. I mean the poor kids frankly, surely it's not any fun for them to be ignored while everyone is out the back drinking?

 

[Mrs G Norris]

haha na, believe me......all over queensland except for probably Brisbane, it would be normal in some "scenes"......... not mine, personally but most definitely happens..... A lot of time it would be just a casual thing, mate dropped over, have a beer............the question here I think is going to be extremely important is: is that a common occurrence and is it a couple of beers?

Quite a lot of pisspots up here

Yes, quite right .. a couple of beers after work or if someone drops over, completely normal .. everyone congregating at someone or others house to 'get on it' during the week and regularly = alcoholic types IMO.

 

[riverjewel]

I wonder if the foot print is that of the child's or an adult? This is just terrible. I hope they find her soon. How heartbreaking

I read that the dad saw an adults footprint on the car.

 

[BrissyLass]

haha na, believe me......all over queensland except for probably Brisbane, it would be normal in some "scenes"......... not mine, personally but most definitely happens..... A lot of time it would be just a casual thing, mate dropped over, have a beer............the question here I think is going to be extremely important is: is that a common occurrence and is it a couple of beers?

Quite a lot of pisspots up here

I have to agree, it happens a lot, especially in families and social circles where the adults are not working, remember ....they are not keeping a "working" monday to friday schedule, they have plenty of spare time and daytime hours to catch up on sleep.

It sure doesn't have to be a Friday or a Saturday that you would drop over to a mates places for a drink...everyday can become a Friday or a Saturday when you don't have a job to be at the next morning.

I lived in far North Queensland many years ago, I had young children at the time, I wasn't working but my partner was so we didn't drink or have people over during the week, but i can assure you, it's damn hot in those places and most weekends were spent with other families under a cool tree in the backyard with an even cooler drink or two in hand. Our kids were always close by and NEVER in any danger either.

But you know .... i was always very fussy about who I socialised with as well.

 

[kiwi50]

So it is now "toe prints" not footprints on the car roof, and the police aren't even confirming that.
Time for me to go into lurk mode, before I say something which is not allowed.

 

[riverjewel]

She could have been cuddling her teddy as she slept with the blanket over her, and she was just scooped up out of the window. Or if she jumped out the window herself she may have just taken them along with her. I think I'm leaning towards her being taken more than leaving on her own though. I don't know if a 3 year old would be brazen enough to jump out the window on their own in the dark, unless they were coaxed out by someone.

She's such a cutie.

If she had jumped out, she would've taken her teddy with her, but I can't see her struggling out the window with a sleeping bag...I think she was scooped up in the sleeping bag, and she had her teddy "gnarly" already in there with her.

 

[sleepinoz]

And now there are 3 - this one says "Official" in their URL.

https://www.facebook.com/OfficialFindChloeCampbell?notif_t=fbpage_fan_invite

 

[BrissyLass]

So it is now "toe prints" not footprints on the car roof, and the police aren't even confirming that.
Time for me to go into lurk mode, before I say something which is not allowed.

All i can see here is that the holes in the story are getting bigger, someone is bound to trip over one of them soon :twocents:

I think I should join you in lurkland Kiwi

 

[catswhiskers]

Is it really more common for families with young kids to have people over drinking mid-week in that part of QLD? I don't think there is anything 'normal' about doing that, it sounds like alcoholism to me to want to drink every night.

I don't think it's more common here at all - it's not about where you live imo, it's the lifestyle of a particular group of people. No matter where in the world you live - you know of people like this I'm sure, if not personally or indirectly then at least via the media. It could just be socio-economic circumstances, or maybe even drug and alcohol scene related - but not necessarily geographical.
Anyhow I think we've been given a little peek into Chloe's world and it's very hard not to make judgements based on what we've gleaned so far.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

But Chloe didn't have a bedroom????

I'm not sure why he thinks it must be someone the family knew because she was in the lounge with her sisters, rather than in a room all by herself? Surely a child is easier to abduct from their bedroom - not in a room with another 2 children who could easily wake up. And the lounge would have been harder to access, seeing as it didn't have an open window. So the "abductor" must have had to have walked through the house ... but then left through the window by jumping onto a car with Chloe, rather than just going out of the window? Or am I missing something here.

I'm very confused with this one. The first reports were all stating that Chloe was taken from "her bedroom". The window of "her bedroom" was left open. A car was parked "beneath her bedroom". As it is now obvious that such a room didn't exist, why was this information allowed to be published as fact, and used by the police in their search for Chloe. Even if it was a mistake the first time, surely one of the family would have immediately corrected it.

This bit also caught my attention. "He said he could not help but think of the Daniel Morcombe case"? Daniel was a teenager, Chloe is a 3 year old girl. Daniel was abducted in broad daylight from a bus stop, Chloe has gone missing from her house. I can't see the connection at all? Unless he thinks the ending is going to be the same, that she will be found deceased? Maybe its just me, but it seems a strange connection to make.

All MOO.

JMOO and I haven't caught up yet but I think one way that he might be coming from is simply that Daniel was a child (I know a teenager but IMO just a kid), who disappeared from where he should've been perfectly safe, which seems to be the case with Chloe too. Possibly Daniel's story left a deep impression on him, as I'm sure it did with many people, and hes not giving some carefully-constructed metaphor so much as responding to the idea of every parent's worst nightmare. Having trouble with words tonight but another possibility is that he, again like many people with children of their own to protect, saw the Morcombes's suffering and it just became a part of his consciousness. I guess maybe this seems understandable to me because I tend to assume the worst...like oh no, here it is, my worst fear come to life! Agh I am having trouble With the putting the words together and them coming out good thing tonight!

 

[bearbear]

I found this to be a very strange suggestion too

kristi abrahams also had wild theories about a couple stealing kiesha.
the police probably just watching and waiting now for the perp to reveal himself, and he will, and they probably have surveillance in place already.
chloes little mother looks so distraught, her pain must be unbearable.

 

[sleepinoz]

https://twitter.com/MissingCases/status/454418561302134784

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