• #121
BBM: Their actions confirm the same

1. Turn up to the kidnapping location, CCTV -1 wearing a high Vis shirt, kidnap the wrong person.......oops :oops:
2. Take victim to abandoned house, leaving forensic evidence ........fail 😨
3. Send videos to the family of the intended kidnapping ( obviously not aware that they have already stuffed up ) , who contact police........... It's getting bad now :eek:
4. Leave car on a street for ? days & than go back & try & torch it, failing miserably & leaving more forensic evidence & tying you to the house & victim ( bit of a dead give away a roll of mostly unburnt carpet from the house) ............. huge mistake, massive fail 😧
5. Dump the body in the worst spot possible.........😵‍💫

They probably still have the devices they filmed the victim on & sent messages etc too


Master criminals they are not, but they still were capable of allegedly ending a innocent 85yr old man's life.

Throw away the keys

It's all so senseless 😡

All IMO
You know you've really messed things up when members of an (alleged) organised crime family feel compelled to call the cops on you
 
  • #122
My heart breaks for Mr Baghsarian, and for his loved ones. He deserved to live his later years in peace & happiness, not to be terrorised, traumatised and murdered by individuals who IMO have no right to call themselves human beings.

What on earth led the 2 young men who are under arrest, to get involved in such horrific behaviour !

‘Hitmen for Hire’ … seriously.

Initial reports seem to indicate that they came from good families - I can’t begin to imagine how their parents must be feeling ! (And I’m intrigued by the fact that one of them travelled to Port Macquarie to visit his ex … what was going on in his mind )

JMHO - to me they look like they would struggle to get a brain between the two of them ! … hence their mistakes. But no way are they the masterminds. .. as I said ‘.hitmen for hire’.

And they’ve made such a hash of it and alerted the world to the fact that there was / is a planned attack on someone else, that I doubt they’ll collect their payment ! In fact I’m surprised they are still alive - the raids this morning may have extended their lives a bit, but the masterminds will have them marked.

* it’s important at this stage that I remind myself that they have not yet been Charged ( to best of my knowledge) which would indicate 1) that a magistrate has approved an extension to the period of detaineeship without charge
Or
2) that they are voluntarily assisting police - even 1/2 a brain would imo suggest this be their best course of action, if guaranteed witness protection.

All just my opinion.

I’m horrified at the total disregard and disrespect for another person, let alone for a harmless and defenceless senior citizen . This behaviour cannot be tolerated in our country.
I bet the ex-girlfriend is bloody glad that they're no longer together 😬
 
  • #123
Due to the victims age, I suspect he was on blood thinners. I wonder whether he died from blood loss, caused by his torture. If they did that to his finger, I can’t imagine what else they did. That poor man.

Iam curious whether it will end up as manslaughter, not murder, once it goes to trail.
If he died in the process of being tortured, that would definitely fall under one or both of the 'intent to cause grievous bodily harm' and 'reckless indifference to human life' clauses in Australian murder law: Murder
 

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