Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #16

[SherlockSleuth]

He was quite young when married to EE.

Could it be possible that when he was killing CSK victims he was 'killing' EE? Does she have enough in common with the 3 'known' victims to warrant this?

 

[Canning Vale]

Could it be possible that when he was killing CSK victims he was 'killing' EE? Does she have enough in common with the 3 'known' victims to warrant this?

SSleuth,
I agree and I've mentioned beforehand that I'd like to know what EE looked like. The media described EE as being petite and polite.

 

[SherlockSleuth]

SSleuth,
I agree and I've mentioned beforehand that I'd like to know what EE looked like. The media described EE as being petite and polite.

Age and social status would be similar too wouldn't they?

 

[Annalise]

SSleuth,
I agree and I've mentioned beforehand that I'd like to know what EE looked like. The media described EE as being petite and polite.

Hi Canning Vale & SherlockSleuth - it has been discussed here before that perhaps EE left making BE very angry. In a psychotic frame of mind which can be brought on by trauma maybe he looked for girls that reminded him of EE and took his rage out on them. MOO

 

[Canning Vale]

Hi Canning Vale & SherlockSleuth - it has been discussed here before that perhaps EE left making BE very angry. In a psychotic frame of mind which can be brought on by trauma maybe he looked for girls that reminded him of EE and took his rage out on them. MOO

I've also suggested that he may have become angry from having to sell the home.

 

[Canning Vale]

Age and social status would be similar too wouldn't they?

The ages of the two older ladies would be similar to EE. Presumably the social status would be similar too. What doesn't make sense is that SS was only 18.

Also, when the second wife left why weren't there similar circumstances - that's strange.

 

[Innerchild]

Most of the good serial killer movies came out after 1998, the books a couple of years earlier. I don't recall a blitz method featuring. The Bone Collector by Deaver could have been a fit, a couple were kidnapped in a taxi and the door handles had been removed trapping them in (BRE's model Commodore had kiddy locks) but the book was released in 1997.

Kiss The Girls perhaps by James Patterson, he was popular and prolific through the 1990's. Would it be safe to assume BRE was a reader?

He was a gamer so could assume he liked the screen rather than books. Red Dragon prequel to Silence of Lambs, IMO was one he'd watch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dragon_(film)

 

[meticulously]

Looking through some archived snippets whilst looking for a specific map of the Claremont cbd i saw these old ones that may or may not be of interest.
Haven't seen them posted for ages so..
Unsure if i can post these without sources, if u want them get a copy asap in case [emoji6]

 

[Mo Joe]

Can't remember who was posting about having Wilson come up in their dreams or something. Maybe it was this? The Australian 12:00AM September 15, 2017

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...r/news-story/3e6a01ea750f39aedfd9d5593bb868ae

[FONT=&amp]Julia Gillard’s ex-boyfriend, former union boss Bruce Wilson, has been linked to the 40-year-old murder mystery surrounding the gangland-style execution of Perth brothel madam Shirley Finn.

Mr Hooper named Mr Wilson when speaking of the pattern of intimidation he suffered for years after 1975.[/FONT][FONT=&amp]He recalled how Mr Wilson — whom he knew as an Australian Workers Union leader in Western Australia — had once come to his workplace in the 1990s to ask for him. Mr Hooper avoided him, but when we went to the carpark he noticed Mr Wilson’s car was still there.
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[FONT=&amp]He then found a .357 Magnum bullet on his own car with a note that read: “Keep your mouth shut or you’ll get one of these.”
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[FONT=&amp]He said Mr Wilson was a *“violent person who liked to get his own way”.
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[FONT=&amp]Mr Hooper said Mr Wilson had once tried to throw a man off the roof of a building site because he refused to pay $10,000 to the union. That worker later died.
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[FONT=&amp]Mr Wilson’s threat prompted him to make a statement to police in 1994. “I thought, ‘This has got to bloody stop’,” he said.[/FONT]

Wow. Thankyou Innerchild. I hadn't seen that article. It wasn't a dream, it was just weird that I was surrounded by the word Wilson for several days. It was everywhere! It may have been about the same time we were discussing Shirley Finn. Strange but interesting.

 

[Spooks-R-Us]

Wow. Thankyou Innerchild. I hadn't seen that article. It wasn't a dream, it was just weird that I was surrounded by the word Wilson for several days. It was everywhere! It may have been about the same time we were discussing Shirley Finn. Strange but interesting.

When ever you mention Wilson I just think of Tom Hanks and white sandy beaches!
Wilsonnnnn!!! [emoji968]


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[Spooks-R-Us]

Did a mashup of possible witnesses for upcoming court proceedings....

Potential Witnesses:


1988 HD
- Victim
- Other people in house
- Family
- Ex Snr Det John Callegari (cop holding Kimono)
- ? Owner of Kimono
- WAPOL
- Forensics
- Experts
- Character references

1995 KK
- Victim
- Hospital staff who admitted and treated victim
- Cemetery staff
- Residents near Rowe Park that found victims's MDL
- Family
- WAPOL
- Forensics
- Experts
- Character references

1996 JR
- Bouncers at Conti
- Punters visible in CCTV
- Conti owners and manager
- Other Conti staff who served JR drinks
- JR's friends who were with her that night
- Taxi driver taking friends
- CCTV specialists
- Lady who found JR's body
- Wellard residents and owners of property near d-site
- Family
- WAPOL
- Forensics
- Pathologist
- Experts
- Character references
- Owners at daycare centre

1997 CG
- Bouncers at Conti
- Lawyer friends out with CG that night
- Conti owner, manager and key staff
- Bar staff if they served CG
- Claremont Council staff re alleged CCTV of CG walking down street
- CCTV specialists
- 3 guys at bus stop out front of Hungary Jacks
- ? Driver of light coloured vehicle
- Man who found CG's body and maybe also his boss
- Guy who saw taxi at Pipidinny Rd
- Family
- WAPOL
- Pathologist
- Forensics
- UK Forensics
- Experts
- Character references

Other Witnesses:
- maybe woman allegedly locked in cupboard against her will by the accused
- Anyone handling alleged vehicle Holden Commodore
- Forensics again
- More experts
- Claremont Council
- WAPOL
- maybe LW, PW


WITNESSES re: BRE
- BRE (the accused)
- TE (brother)
- Any possible alibis
- CGE (ex)
- EE (ex)
- VRG (SD)
- Telstra managerial staff
- Telstra Colleagues
- Friends of BRE
- BRE Family members
- LA representatives
- Psychiatrist or psychologist on results of any psych assessments
- Neighbours of BRE
- Telstra customers of BRE
- BRE's GP or other medical professionals
- Footy club mates
- ? Cricket mates
- character references


Please add to these lists.

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[Molly Dooker]

Other Witnesses:
- maybe woman allegedly locked in cupboard against her will by the accused

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RSBM

What?? Did I miss something?


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[Zedx]

Hi Zedx - I don't get it - why would she walk that distance home when all she had to do was wait a while and take the lift offered to her. She was tired. MOO

Annalise- she was either walking to the phone box or as Spooks said trying to hail a taxi. IIRC her parents had warned her about the recent attacks, so she knew to be careful. IMO walking to this phone box or walking to hail a taxi, when you have been offered a lift later and know about the CSK, is taking a risk or acting arrogantly 'that it won't happen to me'. ( i don't mean arrogant in a mean way, just can't think of another word to describe) In any case, would her frame of mind have also lead her to take a lift from some one going her way? i don't think under the circumstances she was behaving with her safety in mind.

 

[Zedx]

In the time that the camera angle had moved was JR pushed/pulled into the car, at the same time jabbed with an intra muscular dose of Ketamine. Small amount would make you aware but unable to move, medium amount would knock you out, large amount would kill you. She could then be taken to the killing ground with no blood etc to clean up in the car or to the killing/disposal site.


Could the cameras be positioned by manual or electronic means from a control station in the club.

http://onestudent.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/common-drugs.pdf

Hi Janwa, Ketamine has been used in quite a few WA crimes. (The Vet that abused those boys is one) It could have been used in an ambush or once they got in the car. That is certainly one way he could have subdued them. Good thinking.

 

[Mo Joe]

Now I find there's a Wilson Street in Claremont that is close to a lot of the action and also close to bush and water. Do any of you know what Wilson street was like 20 years ago? Were there tracks leading down to the water? Was it isolated?

 

[Spooks-R-Us]

Hi Canningvale, IIRC, LW brother was asked something to effect of "Does your brother wear women's clothes?" He though it was a very strange question at the time. This does then bring in the idea of the CSK wearing diguises IMO.

Yes we've discussed that topic here lots before on WS. That question would lead one to think that WAPOL were investigating a cross dressing lead or something similar!

Maybe the dropped kimono wasn't stolen!

JMO


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[Canning Vale]

Hi Canningvale, IIRC, LW brother was asked something to effect of "Does your brother wear women's clothes?" He though it was a very strange question at the time. This does then bring in the idea of the CSK wearing diguises IMO.

Thank you. They'd need to be large size clothing, possibly obtained from op shops or clotheslines.

 

[Spooks-R-Us]

Hi Janwa, Ketamine has been used in quite a few WA crimes. (The Vet that abused those boys is one) It could have been used in an ambush or once they got in the car. That is certainly one way he could have subdued them. Good thinking.

Ketamine AND GBH have been discussed here in depth.
There was talk about GBH and chemicals used in screen printing having similar chemical compounds at structural cellular level.


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[Canning Vale]

In addition to Spooks list of court attendees, possibility of past neighbours who had clothes stolen from the clothesline. Alternatively, put back on the clothesline days later, covered in stains! Larger sized clothes. Only my thoughts and opinion.

 

[Spooks-R-Us]

RSBM

What?? Did I miss something?


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Read it somewhere - can't recall where ATM sorry


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