Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #4

[Sutton]

Sutton, I got this POI through searching for all screen printing and screen printing related businesses that may have fallen under the Police radar which are relatively close to the Claremont area. I then tried to find out which one of these businesses used that particular type of car seen on the Highway stopped next to CG. This business was the only one. They are still in operation but have since moved. I then tried to find out what sort of places would employees in that area bump into each other at. The sole lunch bar on that street required my POI to walk past JR's place of employment. I would say working there every day for more than two years before her murder, it's highly likely they would have at least seen each other at some point.

He stopped working at the business in 1998, I was told he was fired. Not sure on what he looks like. I've completely lost track of him after this time. Not sure of his criminal history and at the moment I'm trying to find out which school he graduated from so I can find some sort of yearbook photo of him.

So your POI worked at a screen printing business in close proximity to where Jane worked?

Do you think this is the POI mentioned in the CIA episode, or is meeting Jane at least once just coincidence?

 

[Sutton]

I did some screenprinting way back when and am still in printshops occasionally. I'm curious as to what the "equipment" removed by police from the shop was. I'm thinking it may be a screen stretching clamp or similar specialty item. See some examples of equipment in that vein here: http://www.ebay.com/bhp/screen-stretcher

Ooh, can you ask someone in a screen printing shop if they ever hang things out to dry? Or do they use rope for anything? Then we can know if the rope is common place on screen printing shops and could have just been left out back, by a dumpster, etc.

I don't see how a stretching clamp would be involved--the girls were not tortured (that we know of). And torture takes time. I don't see how you could use a screen stretching clamp on a person. JMO, though. I don't know much about torture.

 

[marble]

I am still in and out of fine art (and some smallish commercial) screen shops.
Sometimes transparencies are pinned up on a line to dry, sometimes fabric or prints are pinned up.
It's not ideal, drying racks are usually used for paper prints and I believe there are automated ways to quick-dry printed shirts etc. now.

I was recently at a mid-sized t-shirt printing company for a party in a side loft and poked around just a little but didn't want to be rude. I'll ask for a tour of the whole operation from the owner of the business since I have a standing invitation to drop by for a real visit. A birthday party was not the time or place for it but when I go by again I'll ask some questions about what the process was like technology and equipment-wise back in the late 90s. Since he's been in business for a couple decades now and would be able to tell me what was standard years ago. May be quite a few days from now given my schedule but I will share whatever I find out.

p.s. I was a printmaking major in undergrad so you'd think I'd be more help but screen printing wasn't my focus, although I did screen a bit.

edited to add:
this got me thinking: the small fly by night or renegade screen printers would definitely hang their t-shirts and posters on a line with clips since they wouldn't be able to afford an initial investment of money for drying racks and automated dryers for fabric. I don't know about the Claremont area (or Australia in general), but here in the states there is always a person or two (or three) who is the go to for printing "merch" for local bands and music clubs. They have DIY print shops set up in their basements, garages, etc. and print stickers, t-shirts, and sometimes show posters.

They'd be most apt to use line or cord for drying stuff.

 

[Mel 1303]

Marble, would all the dye from the screenprinters come out in the wash? If the business was using aprons to protect workers clothing, and those aprons were hung out the back repeatedly, over time, could ink from the aprons work into the line?

In the 90's we had a hills hoist, but we also had a line, as pictured. I could imagine confusing cable from one of these lines with telephone cable, especially if it is just a piece of it, in isolation.


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[marble]

Marble, would all the dye from the screenprinters come out in the wash? If the business was using aprons to protect workers clothing, and those aprons were hung out the back repeatedly, over time, could ink from the aprons work into the line?

In the 90's we had a hills hoist, but we also had a line, as pictured. I could imagine confusing cable from one of these lines with telephone cable, especially if it is just a piece of it, in isolation.
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Mel, that's a great point! Yes indeed, every shop I've ever been in has worker aprons and/or jumpsuits that the employees use. These rarely get run through the wash in my experience so yeah, they'd be layered up with all sorts of chemicals and inks. Damn, that's a smart line of reasoning there.

 

[Peter Kurten]

So your POI worked at a screen printing business in close proximity to where Jane worked?

Do you think this is the POI mentioned in the CIA episode, or is meeting Jane at least once just coincidence?

Sorry for the late reply Sutton.

No the person I mentioned would be 10 years younger than that and I don't think he would have ever worked in the financial industry as the Documentary mentioned. The way the Documentary is set up makes me a bit suspicious. I think Police had a slightly differing agenda rather than just to release that video and information. They always seem to have some sort of suspect they're trying to prove guilty as opposed to just "releasing information" which I think applies to this example.

I'm interested in this Telecom vehicle sighting. Can anyone tell me if it was a confirmed sighting of Telecom or Telstra insignia on the side of the door, or was it just some sightings of a vehicle similar in appearance to a Telstra car. I'm interested to learn more of these sightings as it may discount my POI. I'm keen to discount as many of my POIs as it means I can turn to other areas of research.

Who else would have used the route from Shenton Park or beyond, into Claremont?
Which school near a train line may the killer have gone to and caught the train/walked home through Karrakatta?
Who remembers the service station on the corner of Loch and Railway Pde?
Where did the Mitchell Freeway/Marmion end in Late 1996?
Interesting that the first body was dumped south before any discovery, perhaps the killer went south because it was a bit closer to his home. He could have changed to North purely to avoid suspicion, even if it were a lot further than the first trip.
What else to the North East of Claremont would have closed at exactly 12 midnight?

It's all so baffling. People must have known this person. They were either not suspicious of him enough, or their info was overlooked. It has to be one of the two.

 

[Bartholemeus]

Who else would have used the route from Shenton Park or beyond, into Claremont?

Anyone else from Shenton Park and beyond.

Which school near a train line may the killer have gone to and caught the train/walked home through Karrakatta?

CCGS - board Claremont get off Loch St or Karrakatta
Scotch - board Swanbourne " "
Hollywood High - board Shenton Park " "

Hollywood kids who lived west would ride through the cemetery and come out at Govt Rd and then ride down Loch St or over Melville.

Who remembers the service station on the corner of Loch and Railway Pde?

Yep. Private ownership. Had a logo that was a blue tear drop shape. Used to know a dude who worked there.

What else to the North East of Claremont would have closed at exactly 12 midnight?

Subiaco Hotel and Shenton Park Hotel most likely. Midnight was standard licensing law closing time for pubs in Perth.

Also Swanbourne Hotel, Highway Hotel/Coronado Hotel, Captain Stirling, Steve's, There was a bar in Broadway Fair, Minski's on Hampden Rd Nedlands.

It's all so baffling. People must have known this person. They were either not suspicious of him enough, or their info was overlooked. It has to be one of the two.

Like a lot of SK's they are good at flying under the radar.

 

[marble]

"He also spoke out in defence of the civil liberties of Cottesloe public servant Lance Williams, the so-called prime suspect, since cleared by DNA evidence."

So they do have DNA evidence?
This is from a link to an interview with PW with published today (via enzeder: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...hotos-*NO-DISCUSSION*&p=12446624#post12446624 )

 

[Markncis]

Hi all very interested in this case
any new leads ?
I wonder if the person / persons will be caught ...

 

[elastic]

$100,000 bail for pilot on sex counts
Tim Clarke - The West Australian on April 2, 2016, 6:27 am
$100,000 bail for pilot on sex counts
Man police say committed a shocking sex attack in Perth 20 years ago is an AirAsia pilot. Picture: File.



The man police say committed a shocking sex attack in Perth 20 years ago is an AirAsia pilot - who a magistrate said yesterday should be granted bail because he was not a flight risk.

Alfred Gerard Eravelly, 49, appeared in Perth Magistrates Court yesterday charged with six rapes, burglary, deprivation of liberty and unlawful wounding.

He has been in custody since Feburary, when he was arrested in Sydney, after arriving in Australian on a flight from Malaysia, and then being extradited to Perth.

He was not flying the plane which brought him to Australia, but has been a pilot for many years after studying aviation in Perth at the time of the alleged offences in 1996.

Mr Eravelly had flown into Australia for a holiday, and was on a visitor visa when he was arrested.

During a bail application, prosecutors argued that Mr Eravelly should remain in the jail he has been in for the past six weeks, because of the flight risk that he posed.

But his lawyer Shash Nigam argued that despite his occupation, Mr Eravelly did not have ready access to a plane - but was able to outlay a significant surety to assure his future court attendance.

Magistrate Peter Malone agreed, and ordered Mr Eravelly, who was supported by his wife, to lodge a bank cheque of $100,000 with the court.

Mr Eravelly's passport has also been seized, and he must live in Perth while the case progresses though the courts.

Mr Eravelly was arrested by Australian Federal Police officers in Feburary this year, acting on information from WA Police.

They say that Mr Eravelly was living in Scarborough at the time of the 1996 assault and was studying a course in the aviation industry.

Detectives allege Eravelly, 49, broke into a villa in the beach suburb and repeatedly assaulted a 38-year-old woman.

Acting Superintendent Peter Branchi from the State Crime Operations Division said a review had begun into the case late last year - and the charges arose "as a result of the latest advancements in technology".

Mr Eravelly was identified as a suspect mid last year and police were in the process of pursuing various legal avenues to extradite him from Malaysia when he came to them.

The pilot had not returned to Australia between the time he had been identified and when he was arrested.

Acting Superintendent Branchi also said the experience for the victim had been "incredibly traumatising" at the time.

” I think anyone that has been the victim of sexual assault will tell you, it’s terrifying," he said

Photos of Mr Eravelly on a now-deleted Facebook showed him working as a pilot for AirAsia. He will appear in court again in June.


VIDEO News break - April 2

The West Australian

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/31238194/airasia-pilot-alfred-eravelly-charged-with-rape/

Cant beleive a violent rapist is allowed bail, hopefully he had been tested against the Claremont case

 

[88mph]

I was in the area so took a quick detour down Woolcoot Road.

The very southern end where Woolcoot meets Millar Road there's two rail telecommunications buildings.

Would it be unreasonable that Telstra might be contracted to work on these?

 

[Bartholemeus]

So they do have DNA evidence?

For the 101st time:

1. Police have never confirmed they have DNA
2. Police have never confirmed LW, PW, SR have been ruled out.
3. The only person saying they have a source to Macro having DNA and LW, PW, SR etc being ruled out is Bret Christian from the Post
4. It has been repeated by other newspapers but their source is Bret Christian

So the answer is; they might, they might not. We don't know but hopefully sooner or later we will get some sort of confirmation.

Every time Bret Christian repeats in in the Post, it doesn't make it any more likely to be true. We either need Macro confirmation or some sort of movement in the case that leads to DNA being likely.

There seems to be a lot of people trying push DNA as a done deal. Unsure why but repeating it doesn't make it true.

 

[Bartholemeus]

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/31238194/airasia-pilot-alfred-eravelly-charged-with-rape/

Cant beleive a violent rapist is allowed bail, hopefully he had been tested against the Claremont case

It's encouraging that this crime happened about the same and has probably been solved through DNA. Means forensic evidence was collected, store, tested and retested.

 

[Markncis]

It's encouraging that this crime happened about the same and has probably been solved through DNA. Means forensic evidence was collected, store, tested and retested.

How long would it take to build a case against the claremont serial killer , I'm unfamiliar with protocols
weeks , months , years
how would you know if the information you provided had been acted on ?
Would they send you a letter ?
What's a reasonable amount of time for a individual to wait before voicing there concerns in the public domain ..

 

[Sutton]

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/31238194/airasia-pilot-alfred-eravelly-charged-with-rape/

Cant beleive a violent rapist is allowed bail, hopefully he had been tested against the Claremont case

Hopefully!

The article says Mr Eravelly is being charged with six counts of rape. Is there more than one victim or were all assaults on the victim mentioned in the article?

The Post reported in 2015 that police were now looking at other crimes committed in the Claremont area, specifically sex crimes and burglaries. I don't think the CSK was an accomplished burglar.

He was abducting women off the street, driving them to a second location, and then disposing of them elsewhere. Had he been comfortable breaking into homes, he could have easily found a house with a single woman, broken in and spent hours doing whatever he wanted. But he didn't. He chose to attack on the street, risking someone seeing the attack, coming to help the girl, the victim escaping during the transport and getting pulled over.

Just MO, of course.

I def think he committed prior sex attacks. I had previously discounted the attack on the girl behind Club Bay View where someone bashed a woman's head six times and ripped off her skirt. I think this sounds a lot like Mark Dixie. But what if this is how the CSK abducted his victims? Maybe he just slammed them into submission? I can see a skirt getting ripped off if the victim was fighting back. Maybe the killer just got a little too close to other people and they heard her cries in this instance? Maybe this is how he abducted Karrakatta, SS, JR and CG.

 

[Sutton]

...Every time Bret Christian repeats in in the Post, it doesn't make it any more likely to be true. We either need Macro confirmation or some sort of movement in the case that leads to DNA being likely...

RSBM. Do you think police would object to false reports? It would be easy enough to call another journalist or issue a press release saying that DNA info has not been confirmed.

How long would it take to build a case against the claremont serial killer , I'm unfamiliar with protocols
weeks , months , years
how would you know if the information you provided had been acted on ?
Would they send you a letter ?
What's a reasonable amount of time for a individual to wait before voicing there concerns in the public domain ..

Hmmm. What did you report?

IMO, they've ignored many things--the taxi on Pippidinny, the public masterbator, Droc's concerns, area sex assaults, various other things that people have mentioned calling in. The taxi, masterbator and Droc's claims were not considered until they were posted online or in the newspapers.

 

[Markncis]

RSBM. Do you think police would object to false reports? It would be easy enough to call another journalist or issue a press release saying that DNA info has not been confirmed.



Hmmm. What did you report?

IMO, they've ignored many things--the taxi on Pippidinny, the public masterbator, Droc's concerns, area sex assaults, various other things that people have mentioned calling in. The taxi, masterbator and Droc's claims were not considered until they were posted online or in the newspapers.

I made a report to crime stoppers , regarding a experience/person I encountered , was unique to say the least . Followed it up a few months later un impressed by the specialist , I dealt with was quite jovial . followed it up with government got a response back from that , curiosity is getting the better of me , I'm not the biggest fan of the legislative assembly ect plus I feel the media in the regards to exposing things is tainted
very long story
but noël cowards story is fake , and was concocted when I started to push my story to the public

 

[Sutton]

I don't think anything posted on an online forum is going to jeopardize the investigation. It was jeopardized a long time ago and can only be saved by inquest or a review authorized to implement it's recommendations in a timely manner (not years later like the fibers and possibly, the Karrakatta connection).

Discussion of the case moves it forward. The Post articles were published because there is a public interest in the case. The articles generated new leads.

I think you should consider sharing your experience online, but use your own judgement and follow the WS rules if you post here

I do want to say I believe that Droc believed what he was saying. But given new info, I might change my mind on that.

 

[Markncis]

How many reviews can one case need ?
I believe that the news paper articles and the news print agencies are in cohorts , I have the feeling that there's many stakeholders in this . What was the Murdoch university interest in this last year ?
Does Western Australia have a newspaper called the advertiser like Geelong ?
Ill get around to throwing it all out there shortly , I just have a abundance of questions for the web slueths fraternity

cheers mark

 

[Bartholemeus]

How long would it take to build a case against the claremont serial killer , I'm unfamiliar with protocols
weeks , months , years

How long is a piece of string basically.

They had a strong case against LW but couldn't find the smoking gun. If they find a DNA match to someone - hard to say but you'd think they'd go back through all the evidence and try and find other links.

how would you know if the information you provided had been acted on ?
Would they send you a letter ?

Numerous people have claimed they gave Macro info and never heard back. Police have no obligation to let people who have reported suspicions know anything but numerous people have felt Macro should have come back to them for further detail and inquiry and never heard from them, i.e. guy who saw dude wan king in Rowe Park, bricklayer who saw taxi and numerous others.

What's a reasonable amount of time for a individual to wait before voicing there concerns in the public domain ..

3 months. If you haven't heard back in 3 months then I think it's reasonable to put it into the public domain. I'd refrain from making too many complaints about Macro/SCS publicly though. No point in getting them off side.