Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #4

[enzeder]

The point is you have made claims with nothing to back up your statement.
What story were you so public with.
If it was a public story, where are the links.

What exactly should we check google images for.
Is there a cryptic clue in your gold leaf?
Or should I do a reverse image search for your last blank image?

BBM

Western Australia Coat of Arms I think.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Western_Australia

 

[firestarter]

BBM

Western Australia Coat of Arms I think.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Western_Australia

Thanks.
I am well aware of the WA coat of arms as I have lived in WA all my life.
The Coat of arms is irrelevant as a post.
What would be relevant is if Markncis posted the letter in its entirety.

I fail to see what evidence someone from Vic would have on a case in WA.

 

[Sprintman]

Time Waster!

 

[Markncis]

Time Waster!

Can't be bothered with it

 

[firestarter]

Can't be bothered with it

I totally understand.
You have been at it for a whole day.
It's hard to maintain bs for so long.

 

[Markncis]

I totally understand.
You have been at it for a whole day.
It's hard to maintain bs for so long.

not that this is meant to be a discussion forum , there seems to be a few contributors on here with seniority complexes , get your pop corn remarks ect , I'll let you go back to rehashing your theories , I'll just sit back and read

 

[Sutton]

not that this is meant to be a discussion forum , there seems to be a few contributors on here with seniority complexes , get your pop corn remarks ect , I'll let you go back to rehashing your theories , I'll just sit back and read

Wait, what? You came online and called out Droc, implying he copied your story. You questioned why police were not taking you seriously and promised to post your details online. Then you post pics of a letterhead? Is that what you sent police?

I will take seniority complexes over false promises any day.

 

[elastic]

not that this is meant to be a discussion forum , there seems to be a few contributors on here with seniority complexes , get your pop corn remarks ect , I'll let you go back to rehashing your theories , I'll just sit back and read

You remind me of the other attention seeker we have here...

You have barely posted, given no indication of where we can find this 'public' theory, claimed you are being ridiculed when there has been nothing directed towards you along those lines, and now have a denial complex taking your bat and ball and going home after posting a few pictures of an emblem on a letter. your contribution to this Sleuthing site, yes sleuthing site, where people are gathering information is very poor.

I fail to see how someone who went so public can have such little information available (especially on the internet) about their claims. If there was anywhere on the internet worth posting those claims this is the place to do so, not anywhere else but here, a dedicated sleuthing site.

I hope you are not another strange attention seeking weirdo lurking here making unfounded ascertions and claims..

 

[elastic]

Can't be bothered with it

Most people here would be very open to new information and I doubt you would be criticised or ridiculed for posting your theory. Ofcourse some will challenge your theory and some may seek clarification on some things you suggest but i reckon overall the reaction to your information would be positive, and good debate is healthy anyway so embrace it and get your theory out there

 

[elastic]

My idea is the CSK may have been responsible for Julie C. But someone said it was an ex boyfriend. This guy certainly followed the Birnies, more so re the same suburb or area.

Umm you said he hit men too, you are all over the place. If Julie Cutler is a victim then one of her boyfriends or ex boyfriends was a suspect so who is he and which CSK POI does he match up with? Or has he never been made official..

Face it you cant keep up with the case anymore, you are all over the place with your really odd cryotic clues and disinformation.

Btw the car is a VS commodore not VR... Keep up.

 

[elastic]

Hopefully!

The article says Mr Eravelly is being charged with six counts of rape. Is there more than one victim or were all assaults on the victim mentioned in the article?

The Post reported in 2015 that police were now looking at other crimes committed in the Claremont area, specifically sex crimes and burglaries. I don't think the CSK was an accomplished burglar.

He was abducting women off the street, driving them to a second location, and then disposing of them elsewhere. Had he been comfortable breaking into homes, he could have easily found a house with a single woman, broken in and spent hours doing whatever he wanted. But he didn't. He chose to attack on the street, risking someone seeing the attack, coming to help the girl, the victim escaping during the transport and getting pulled over.

Just MO, of course.

I def think he committed prior sex attacks. I had previously discounted the attack on the girl behind Club Bay View where someone bashed a woman's head six times and ripped off her skirt. I think this sounds a lot like Mark Dixie. But what if this is how the CSK abducted his victims? Maybe he just slammed them into submission? I can see a skirt getting ripped off if the victim was fighting back. Maybe the killer just got a little too close to other people and they heard her cries in this instance? Maybe this is how he abducted Karrakatta, SS, JR and CG.

It appears to be 6 counts of rape for the same case/victim, which seems like a very violent long torturous ordeal for one person.

If thats the case one does wonder why such a violent attacker raping a woman 6 times could get bail.

The reason why someone may not continue to attack this way could be because they are in the victims house and dont know the house hold routine eg if anyone would come to the house in the morning which may lead to discover.

Abducting allows the perpetrator to control the situation on his/her terms and allows them time to do whatever with the victim.

We dont know when the bodies were dumped in the CSK case eg. Same night, next night, a few nights after, the experts may not be correct given the conditions of the bodies. Who knows for what purpose the CSK girls could have been kept alive for for a few days..

Maybe after a violent sex attack in someones home it almost lead to being caught and maybe someone came to the home in the morning, or he had a close call somehow with this method and changed to abducting

 

[Sutton]

...Often in such cases police release false or specific or tailored information to try and induce behaviour in the serial killer or a specific suspect.

It really gets annoying when people presents opinions as fact. The only fact is that we don't know yet. I am unsure why you're hell bent on insisting their is DNA but the impression I get is the people who are doing know that over time it becomes accepted as fact. This happened with LW twice - at first everyone was wrongly convinced he was the CSK, then a few years later everyone was convinced he definitely wasn't. If people keep repeating stuff, over time people will just assume it's true.

I want it to be true too. But we don't know for sure. Until we know we should all keep an open mind.

RSBM. Take it easy. I'm not hellbent on insisting there is DNA. I simply believe there is DNA.

I've never seen a case in which police or media have falsely claimed to have DNA evidence. They always keep some info hidden and occasionally provide false info, but I've never seen that done with DNA. But I'm not insisting others believe they have DNA. I've worded many of my replies to reflect that some people don't believe there is DNA.

My comment focused on the possibility that Bret was making up the information (as opposed to police lying to Bret).

 

[Elwood_1]

I wonder if they are letting Eravelly off the leash to see where he runs to. He has two months sitting around before his next court appearance. That is plenty of time to get bored/paranoid and maybe want to go visit some old hangouts.

 

[Bartholemeus]

Tbh as soon as I've posted on here I've been ridiculed by someone on here , I can't really be bothered with it , reversing the images will be fruitless , good luck with the hunt for the killer
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Posting an image of a letterhead that could be obtained from the internet proves nothing. Expecting people to fawn over you and ask questions is highly indulgent given your history. What did you expect people to ask "Please O great one, what is on the other side of the document"?

People have short thrift with your game playing. You've been banned at least twice and keep coming back so you do have something to say. If you post what you have then people will ask questions when clarification is needed. Expecting people to ask questions over a letterhead and then taking your bat and ball and going home when people don't bow is ridiculous. You just show yourself to be the time waster everyone thinks you are.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

[Parkie]

I don`t know what this letterhead thing is about at all. Yair, trying to keep up Elastic, lol

 

[Bartholemeus]

I don`t know what this letterhead thing is about at all. Yair, trying to keep up Elastic, lol

markncis has lamented many times that police won't take his story seriously. He has been on this board numerous times under numerous aliases and has asked numerous times how one would get their story out. But he never seems to get around to posting it.

He said he had a letter that was a response to his claims and said he post it but all he posted was a letterhead.

 

[Markncis]

markncis has lamented many times that police won't take his story seriously. He has been on this board numerous times under numerous aliases and has asked numerous times how one would get their story out. But he never seems to get around to posting it.

He said he had a letter that was a response to his claims and said he post it but all he posted was a letterhead.

see above you claimed it was of a search engine now it's not , I don't have to interact with you on here and I won't , you seem to have some controll thing going on ill get the story ( my) out one way or another .
i don't need your validation
as for the letter I received , when I ring and ask to speak to people and quote the reference number , I get the run around periodically , so explain this o holly one ?
if I came on here like a noël , it would look like a noël wouldn't it ?



as Parkie has done many times . mad a duck duck of himself , atleast the angle I'm catching your eye on is going to make sense , no troll here or a spam bot , very hard to get people's attention when

a. Numerous people have run havoc posting rubbish
b. police media releases with intent to disrupt
c. Half assed reporting on the case , see the post newspaper

so if this is the only way I can get highlighted so be it




cheers markncis

 

[Bartholemeus]

see above you claimed it was of a search engine now it's not

I did nothing of the sort. I said it "could have been", as in you have posted something that can't be confirmed until you show us more.

I don't have to interact with you on here and I won't , you seem to have some controll thing going on ill get the story ( my) out one way or another .

But here's the thing - we have spoken many times and I have asked you to get your story out and for whatever reason you just haven't been able to do it. Every time you insist of playing this "make a comment about something unrelated (usually Noel Coward's story) and I will talk further.

I regret that I have played your game previously and you have still provided NOTHING.

You are free to get your story out right now. I have told you that, others have told you that.

i don't need your validation
as for the letter I received , when I ring and ask to speak to people and quote the reference number , I get the run around periodically , so explain this o holly one ?

I'm not saying the letter doesn't exist, nor am I saying you aren't getting the run around.

But you want to talk about something with out providing specifics. You want to have a conversation about a letterhead.

As far as I know you have link many crimes to the CSK including the ex Iona student who lived in Victoria. I think what people want to know is;

Why are the linked?
What other murders are linked?

if I came on here like a noël , it would look like a noël wouldn't it ?

Not everyone thinks Noel's story is a load of rubbish. Only one person treated him disrespectfully. Just because you think his story was a load of cobblers, doesn't mean other people don't respect (even if they think the snuff video claim was a stretch).

You'd be est off getting your story out and talking it through. People may find or know things that corroborate it, others may find some holes. But if you're confident of your theory or evidence then you shouldn't have a problem. The reason some people are having a go at you is because they feel you are wasting their time. All talk, no action.

Put your story out and people will respect you for it.

as Parkie has done many times . mad a duck duck of himself , atleast the angle I'm catching your eye on is going to make sense , no troll here or a spam bot , very hard to get people's attention when

a. Numerous people have run havoc posting rubbish
b. police media releases with intent to disrupt
c. Half assed reporting on the case , see the post newspaper

so if this is the only way I can get highlighted so be it

cheers markncis

We're still seeing a lot of talk and no action. Are you wasting our time?

 

[enzeder]

Interesting read fwiw..

Extract from Hansard
[ASSEMBLY - Thursday, 27 November 2008]
http://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/han...00115ead/$FILE/A38 S1 20081127 p631b-640a.pdf

 

[Bartholemeus]

Interesting read fwiw..

Extract from Hansard
[ASSEMBLY - Thursday, 27 November 2008]
http://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/han...00115ead/$FILE/A38 S1 20081127 p631b-640a.pdf

I asked Andrew (Mallard) when everything turned for him. He replied that it was when he was in Graylands Hospital in a
straitjacket. He had been injected and he caught a glimpse of himself in the mirror with saliva dribbling down his
chin and thought, “I’m going to die in here.” That was when it all changed for him. The Attorney General should
bear this in mind when he is arranging compensation. I had dinner last night with one of Perth’s leading personal
injury lawyers, who practises in both the Court of Appeal and the High Court. He assured me that because of the
way the writ is pleaded, Andrew is entitled to a civil jury, which could strike the damages in this case. I will be
very interested to see, after the trial with a civil jury, whether the average person in Perth agrees with me that
Andrew Mallard is entitled to $10 million for the destruction of his life, and that Lance is entitled to compensation for what the police have done to him and his family. They tore up his backyard, searched for DNA
and went to the media saying that Lance was the murderer. They then went quietly to his parents in November
2008 to say, “We’ve looked into this further and we’re satisfied as to his alibis. We think he’s a bit weird and his
behaviour is unusual, but we’re satisfied that he’s not the murderer.”


What has happened? We have a corrupt police officer running his own agenda, convicting people in the media
and destroying families, and because of his success in doing this, he is promoted! They sacked Paul Ferguson.
Does the member for Murray-Wellington know Detective Sergeant Paul Ferguson? He is a fine police officer. I
know him, his family and all his history. He is a fine police officer, but he was sacked from the case because he
was not advancing the case quickly enough. They wanted a quick result, and this Caporn chappie had got a quick
result in the Mallard case, so they sooled him onto this case to sink Lance. They could not convict him in court,
so they convicted him in the media. I do not know any more about the facts behind Mrs Rayney’s death than
anyone else in this house. I am not any better informed, but I do know that what the police did was damnable. It
was the same form again. They did what they did to Lance and Mallard. They announced that Mr Rayney was
the prime and only suspect.

It's important to know that Mr Quigley is having an argument with police. We know he's got a point about Caporn and the Mallard case, but how right he is with the rest of it - unsure.

Without a doubt Police leaked info about LW to the media. Unfortunately there is no ultimate proof which means, despite what Mr Quigley says, it's highly unlikely LW would win a case against the police.

What I would like to know; did Police visit the Williams' in 2008 and tell him he was no longer a suspect? And if so, did they tell him because of alibi or did they say because of DNA? It would be unfathomable to take 12 years to verify his alibi. Or did they tell him that because if they said DNA then they'd being at higher risk of being sued?

Certainly the way Police conduct themselves has to change. Leaking only parts of cases to the media in order to put extreme focus on one POI should not be allowed.