Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #6

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I believe elastic posted this a long time ago, but meticulous mentioned the comments might be relevant to the current discussion.

The poster sounds paranoid, but maybe there's something there.

https://independentaustralia.net/bu...eagher-and-alan-jones,4552#comment-1130572264



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Sutton what do you think sounds paranoid about this article ?
There is a few clues mentioned ,
Dr denis cherry was treating the guy for impotence .
a few other clues also about protection etc.
To 88mph , could it be D.M. ?




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Sutton what do you think sounds paranoid about this article ?...
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Snipped. To start with the guy claims he got exiled, his my bank accounts were seized, his home was stolen, he was shot at five times, his house was burgled over 60 times, and he and his daughter were both poisoned.

He says a Perth judge ordered the police to supply a suspect with the new address of one of those he was stalking – a five year old girl.

I have some doubts about all of his claims. But he does say some interesting things as well. There's probably some truth in there.


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Snipped. To start with the guy claims he got exiled, his my bank accounts were seized, his home was stolen, he was shot at five times, his house was burgled over 60 times, and he and his daughter were both poisoned.

He says a Perth judge ordered the police to supply a suspect with the new address of one of those he was stalking – a five year old girl.

I have some doubts about all of his claims. But he does say some interesting things as well. There's probably some truth in there.


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Yes , thanks . now that you mention, it is a big load of crazey talk .
No wonder it was ignored largely on BF forum page #10 ,
And then in WS a year ago too .

Having an open mind brings me to have time for wild theories .

A "dr cherry" & a "tess lawrence" are mentioned in " terra A" comments & they seem to be real ppl...

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Snipped. To start with the guy claims he got exiled, his my bank accounts were seized, his home was stolen, he was shot at five times, his house was burgled over 60 times, and he and his daughter were both poisoned.

He says a Perth judge ordered the police to supply a suspect with the new address of one of those he was stalking – a five year old girl.

I have some doubts about all of his claims. But he does say some interesting things as well. There's probably some truth in there.


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Agree. It does seem somewhat get fetched.



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Sutton what do you think sounds paranoid about this article ?
There is a few clues mentioned ,
Dr denis cherry was treating the guy for impotence .
a few other clues also about protection etc.
To 88mph , could it be D.M. ?




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Forgive me, but how is an impotent man raping women?

Some on here suggest CG wasn't raped??


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Forgive me, but how is an impotent man raping women?

Some on here suggest CG wasn't raped??


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The impotent factor , what does impotent really mean ? I would guess that means that they shoot blanks rather than virile sperm .
Its not my expertise 88mph , but I would have never thought it would mean that an erection isnt possible just because of impotence.
Remember that story about DM / smm inquest ? the d.m backpack kit that had "large rubber bands" , well imo they are to assist in maintaining an erection and nothing else.
A bit of digging could be needed because , remembering vaguely, more about the "impotent guy" & previous discussions there's more to research
Edit : impotence means poor erection / none . My mistake !
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Forgive me, but how is an impotent man raping women?

Some on here suggest CG wasn't raped??


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88mph , I really dont think that said "impotence" would exonerate a suspect , it could have been a ruse , a way to get viagra , who knows ? Imo it all adds up to dysfunctional sexual kinks ,A man with rape kit & hard core x rated 🤬🤬🤬🤬 magazine & accesories etc obviously has not forgotten about sexual stimulus.
Hope this helps


Hayley dodd case comes up soon
I hope that is solved



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I believe elastic posted this a long time ago, but meticulous mentioned the comments might be relevant to the current discussion.

The poster sounds paranoid, but maybe there's something there.

https://independentaustralia.net/bu...eagher-and-alan-jones,4552#comment-1130572264



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When this article was posted on BF it was discounted quickly and evaluated as way too ludicrous .
BIllywizz was the poster that was most keenly interested in it's comments page 1 & 2 . Agreed its full of ludicrous claims ,

Moving on then [emoji221]

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Note ; Google search this only if you enjoy odd articles that are off topic .

Former spy derek miles stabbing murder . wife guilty of stabbing murder . Claremont husband killer gets life in prison . theres at least 5 different msn news links . Some have extra details
(about mysterious fingerprint & dna)

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When this article was posted on BF it was discounted quickly and evaluated as way too ludicrous .
BIllywizz was the poster that was most keenly interested in it's comments page 1 & 2 . Agreed its full of ludicrous claims ,

Moving on then [emoji221]

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Saying that, it's not too ludicrous that CSK started his attacks at uni (UWA).

Are there any unsolved UWA rapes? Any identikits?


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Saying that, it's not too ludicrous that CSK started his attacks at uni (UWA).

Are there any unsolved UWA rapes? Any identikits?


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There was a few assaults that nobody was charged for at uwa .
The links are here on this thread detailing them .

There was an identikit .

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The CSK might not have enjoyed killing or it never came close to his fantasies. Maybe he only killed women he knew or whom he thought might be able to identify him.

I am kind of leaning towards:

1.) He killed Julie Cutler on accident. He may have had some sexual assaults prior to Julie, and he surely fantasized about violent sex, but things got out of hand with Julie. He freaked out about what to do with her car, and somehow put it in the ocean to get rid of evidence. I have no idea where he hid her body. Her death excited him, but it also scared him, and he did not plan to kill again.
2.) He committed numerous sexual assaults in the Claremont area, and things began to escalate in 1994ish.
3.) He killed Sarah, either because he knew her or he got carried away.
4.) He tried further sexual assaults, maybe he was successful, but at least one victim was able to escape.
5.) He knew Jane. He raped her and then killed her.
6.) He accidentally killed Ciara when she fought back. Other victims fought back as well, but things got out of control during this incident and he killed her before he had a chance to assault her.
7.) He realizes killing is not fulfilling and he is putting himself at risk. He lays low for a while and then starts attacking again. Maybe his circumstances have changed and he is unable to stalk women so freely.

What are everyone else's theories as to how the CSK started and how he stopped or slowed down?
 
Saying that, it's not too ludicrous that CSK started his attacks at uni (UWA).

Are there any unsolved UWA rapes? Any identikits?


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I can't find many articles that give details on the UWA rapes or exactly which assaults Dyers was charged with. I'm trying to match things up. Will report on the thread when I get things figured out.


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The CSK might not have enjoyed killing or it never came close to his fantasies. Maybe he only killed women he knew or whom he thought might be able to identify him.

I am kind of leaning towards:

1.) He killed Julie Cutler on accident. He may have had some sexual assaults prior to Julie, and he surely fantasized about violent sex, but things got out of hand with Julie. He freaked out about what to do with her car, and somehow put it in the ocean to get rid of evidence. I have no idea where he hid her body. Her death excited him, but it also scared him, and he did not plan to kill again.
2.) He committed numerous sexual assaults in the Claremont area, and things began to escalate in 1994ish.
3.) He killed Sarah, either because he knew her or he got carried away.
4.) He tried further sexual assaults, maybe he was successful, but at least one victim was able to escape.
5.) He knew Jane. He raped her and then killed her.
6.) He accidentally killed Ciara when she fought back. Other victims fought back as well, but things got out of control during this incident and he killed her before he had a chance to assault her.
7.) He realizes killing is not fulfilling and he is putting himself at risk. He lays low for a while and then starts attacking again. Maybe his circumstances have changed and he is unable to stalk women so freely.

What are everyone else's theories as to how the CSK started and how he stopped or slowed down?


Maybe there are answers in here Sutton, It goes a lot further into profiling than anything else I have read.

http://digitalcommons.law.ggu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1023&context=theses
 
The identakit of the guy with the mo you guys found looks a lot like Estelle Blackburns ex boyfriend (the romanian boxer) then again most of these kits are so damn vague you could almost fit them to anyone. IMO though that board seen in the background is nothing more than a production prop, with all the secrecy behind this case I can't see police letting slip a shot of their centre of investigation without it being blurred.
 
The identakit of the guy with the mo you guys found looks a lot like Estelle Blackburns ex boyfriend (the romanian boxer) then again most of these kits are so damn vague you could almost fit them to anyone. IMO though that board seen in the background is nothing more than a production prop, with all the secrecy behind this case I can't see police letting slip a shot of their centre of investigation without it being blurred.

Thanks csk? for your thoughts about whom it could be , & that it maybe a production prop & that the police may not release a proper id kit on the tv documentary .
Have to disagree with you about most of the kits "fitting anyone" and being vague tho,
There are classic examples of how accurate some identikits are to the actual perp .
The mystery is finding out if any of the identikits are related to claremont, or a different incident ? For example knowing what date & what incident brang about the identikit sketches .
So far there's one blurry idkit , and also a clear half face , discussed last month.
Also theres Living Witnesses to some assaults , so surely a sketch could have been made . Wondering if old newspapers archives have a version of the blurry identikit, ( and more)



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Thanks csk? for your thoughts about whom it could be , & that it maybe a production prop & that the police may not release a proper id kit on the tv documentary .
The more I think about it the more I agree with CSK. It's not the only doco where one of these has appeared and I don't think Macro would have made this mistake once let alone twice. I just don't think they would have let the film crew into the main investigation room to take pictures. I think it's the doco editing or some other department whipping one up because it looks good.


Also theres Living Witnesses to some assaults , so surely a sketch could have been made . Wondering if old newspapers archives have a version of the blurry identikit, ( and more)
Quite possibly.
 
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