Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #13

[MsAnais]

For those having difficulty sleeping tonight:

Stumbled across this article on the "statistical analysis of birth charts of serial killers"
http://www.nvwoa.nl/pdfart/ruis/ruisen.pdf

"It is found that serial killers are frequently born when celestial factors are inMutable signs ..... The frequency of planets in the 12th house issignificantly high ..... and thefrequency distribution of Moon aspects deviates from the theoretical distributionin the whole sample... and in the dataset with known birth time.......It is concluded that, based on the two datasets, some of the claims ofastrologers cannot be rejected."

Basically this article states that there are patterns noticeable in the astrological charts of serial killers.



PS: this article is like another language for me, but someone here may appreciate its worth.

Thanks so much for this, Spooks.

Even if people aren't into astrology, it has some great non-astrological info about the development of serial killers. Such as this section, which explains it so well:

Specific sorts of behaviour, such as animal torture, fire setting, bed-wetting, frequent daydreaming, social isolation and chronic lying, characterize the childhood of serial killers. As adults they are addicted to their fantasies, have a lack of empathy, a constant urge for stimuli, a lack of external goals in life, a low self-control and a low sense of personal power. The lack of empathy or remorse, the superficial charm and the inflated self-appraisal are features of psychopathy.

Serial killers have also been said to have a form of narcissistic personality disorder with a mental addiction to kill (Vaknin, 2003).
In many psychological profiles of serial killers the central theme is frequent daydreaming, starting in early childhood and associated with a powerful imagination. It leads to the general fantasy world in which the serial killer begins to live as protection
against isolation and feelings of inadequacy arising from this isolation (Ressler & Burgess, 1990).

Many serial killers enact their crimes because of the detailed and violent fantasies (power, torture and murder) that have developed in their minds as early as the ages of seven and eight. These aggressive daydreams, developed as children, continue to develop and expand through adolescence into maturity, where they are finally released into the real world (Wilson & Seamen, 1992). With each successive victim, they attempt to fine tune the act, striving to make the real life experiences as perfect as the fantasy
(Apsche, 1993).


http://www.nvwoa.nl/pdfart/ruis/ruisen.pdf

 

[lampformypath]

To do fostering, for the right reasons, you have to be an incredible person. And you, I dare way, are.

Thanks Moustachio, but no more "incredible" than many thousands of others in Australia, and millions around the world. We (my husband and myself) felt very inadequate, on many occasions, to deal with children that had been so deeply traumatised. We did, and still do feel that caring for multiple children, all with very different of course "issues" was a truly impossible task for anyone to attempt, and it was only when we took that child out of the "system" and cared for him in our home as part of our family that dramatic changes happened. He went on to another family that was perfect for him (it was becoming too much for us as he went into teen years, we have grown kids and grandkids too) and he has grown into a fine young man, who still rings us "out of the blue" and tells us all his adventures. He's training as a mechanic (his favourite thing in the whole world) and even volunteers overseas with orphan kids in Asia! Very intuitive kid too, he told us a few weeks after we started at the "campus" that he would one day leave with us and be part of our family (there was no such programmes then at that establishment, you stayed on campus with multiple children till you resigned, or your contract was terminated,and we told him that would not be possible) but sure enough, just 8 months later he drove away with us and our big adorable dog and became part of our family, always will be. See there are happy endings sometimes.

 

[lampformypath]

Thanks.
My old man was a taxi owner & driver. I remember the days of manual dispatch well.

As for SR, that is why his claims were dismissed, and why suspicion fell on him quite quickly. His claims were very embellished, and factually wrong.

And the computer dispatch system is why a rogue driver (or someone with a radio scanner) couldn't know SS was waiting for a taxi. She phoned through and her job was dispatched via the computer dispatch system (i retrieved the job data for the bosses to locate the tape of her call to play for police) Someone had to physically see her to know she was there.

Incredible that you have been "lurking" with this information and how closely related to the case you are! Hey Bunnie, wouldn't it just be weird if your Dad knew my Dad! My Dad's call sign was V47 if that rings any bells?? He was a big hearted bloke, quite well known in Freo and surrounds, Stan the Man they used to call him!!!

 

[petedavo.au]

Hmmm... sounds like I shouldn't be here. Even though macro don't seem remotely interested in what I have to say & I think they should be & that I should be a witness & maybe in a SS case I will be.

It's only really the defence that would be interested in cross examination of chain of custody witnesses. And in this instance especially if they want to establish whether evidence was properly examined to exhaust alternative suspects, IMO

 

[lampformypath]

Maybe at some stage in the future but not until someone is actually charged with the SS disappearance and there is some dispute over whether she called a cab or not.

Hey CP345, can you tell us where SS calling a taxi (sorry can't say cab, Dad might be watching!) has been disputed? I haven't seen this anywhere. Not doubting you as you are very switched on cookie, just would love to see the article this info came from? Puts an entirely different spin on the case if she was just standing there so vulnerable (feel so sad just typing that) what do you think, trying to get up the courage to hitch hike?

 

[lampformypath]

For those having difficulty sleeping tonight:

Stumbled across this article on the "statistical analysis of birth charts of serial killers"
http://www.nvwoa.nl/pdfart/ruis/ruisen.pdf

"It is found that serial killers are frequently born when celestial factors are inMutable signs ..... The frequency of planets in the 12th house issignificantly high ..... and thefrequency distribution of Moon aspects deviates from the theoretical distributionin the whole sample... and in the dataset with known birth time.......It is concluded that, based on the two datasets, some of the claims ofastrologers cannot be rejected."

Basically this article states that there are patterns noticeable in the astrological charts of serial killers.



PS: this article is like another language for me, but someone here may appreciate its worth.

Remembering that old song, Age of Aquarius, "When the moon is in the 7th house, and Jupiter aligns with Mars..." sing along if you know the words!! Tis a bit "spooky" though about all coming from that same alignment....

 

[lampformypath]

Hmmm... sounds like I shouldn't be here. Even though macro don't seem remotely interested in what I have to say & I think they should be & that I should be a witness & maybe in a SS case I will be.

Oh Perthie, I hope MACRO does listen to you as I can hear your frustration in your words and your wanting to help. Maybe they just have so much on their plates at present with this case their focus has to be totally on the other girls. Hang in there, things can change very rapidly and you may be right in the thick of it very soon. Be careful what you wish for as I think it would be a really traumatising experience being involved directly in any of these proceedings, present or future!

 

[SN76]

Just saying....what if......no taxi was involved at all, and it's just a coincidence...most people have a night out and call a taxi...or uber nowadays, now they have arrested BE..whats the connection to a taxi? I think the taxi theory can be laid to rest now.

 

[lampformypath]

Yeah I think lamp sounds like a good egg. I'm starting to feel guilty that I said the result of her applying the Benjamin Button treatment to the picture of BE looked like my nanna. 

I forgive you CP345! I couldn't stop laughing when you made that comment about my "artwork". I even told my daughter the other day and sent her a picture of Liberace along side my "beautiful" BRE retro pic. and told her about your Nanna comment. She and I just cracked up, she was feeling crook with a cold at the time and she said how good it was to laugh like that. Very therapeutic laughter! I am a very big believer in it being the very best of medicines!! I've even done gigs at a big cancer support centre in Perth in my day, some of my fondest memories are of making cancer patients cry with laughter and come up and hug me after the performance with tears running down their faces. No harm done CP345, only smiles created this end!!

 

[SN76]

That's so cute Lampy....! (NOT the pic of BRE) but the giggles with your daughter

 

[CP345]

Hey CP345, can you tell us where SS calling a taxi (sorry can't say cab, Dad might be watching!) has been disputed? I haven't seen this anywhere. Not doubting you as you are very switched on cookie, just would love to see the article this info came from? Puts an entirely different spin on the case if she was just standing there so vulnerable (feel so sad just typing that) what do you think, trying to get up the courage to hitch hike?

It has never been disputed as far as I'm aware. The only reason I said that was that one poster said that bunnie should be careful of posting as they may be a witness. The context of my comment was to point out that it was unlikely that they would be as nobody has been charged over SS. Even if someone was the only way bunnie would be called as a witness is if the defence wanted to dispute that a cab was called.

Just read your comments about having a laugh about the picture and nanna comment. Good that you had a laugh about it, that was exactly my intention. My nan was actually an old fashioned traditional blue rinse, the kindest lady I've ever met. Nothing like the picture. Maybe it's her that needs an apology!

 

[petedavo.au]

It has never been disputed as far as I'm aware. The only reason I said that was that one poster said that bunnie should be careful of posting as they may be a witness. The context of my comment was to point out that it was unlikely that they would be as nobody has been charged over SS. Even if someone was the only way bunnie would be called as a witness is if the defence wanted to dispute that a cab was called.

Or the defence want to put into evidence that there are other alternative suspects as they did in the Rayney Trial

 

[CP345]

Or the defence want to put into evidence that there are other alternative suspects as they did in the Rayney Trial

Yeah possibly, though I think it's likely both the defence and prosecution would just accept the phone call as fact. It really doesn't rule out any scenario for what happened that night.

 

[lampformypath]

That's so cute Lampy....! (NOT the pic of BRE) but the giggles with your daughter

Yeah, she's a chip off the old block my girl! Both our kids have wicked sense of humour, our family get togethers are a hoot! (We always have other "blow ins" as my Dad used to call them, sharing our dinners with us. Usually people who don't have family or are estranged in some way). I hired a juke box one year for Christmas not long ago and we had karaoke. Our daughter in law NOT a singer, like the rest of us, but insisted on doing around 8 verses of Stairway to Heaven in a very inebriated state. Wouldn't give up the microphone, had to eventually wrench it from her hand as she lay on the lounge falling asleep and still "singing"! Lord have mercy!!!

 

[lampformypath]

It has never been disputed as far as I'm aware. The only reason I said that was that one poster said that bunnie should be careful of posting as they may be a witness. The context of my comment was to point out that it was unlikely that they would be as nobody has been charged over SS. Even if someone was the only way bunnie would be called as a witness is if the defence wanted to dispute that a cab was called.

Just read your comments about having a laugh about the picture and nanna comment. Good that you had a laugh about it, that was exactly my intention. My nan was actually an old fashioned traditional blue rinse, the kindest lady I've ever met. Nothing like the picture. Maybe it's her that needs an apology!

Thanks for explanation of your comments about the taxi angle. And glad you gave us a nicer "picture" of your Nan, sounds like a real sweetie!

 

[Spinnaker]

So to clarify.

1. SR never had SS in his taxi on either night, as there was no record of any taxis going to known SS addresses, except the one she didn't get to take.
2. Only driver and dispatch knew she had called for taxi (no two way announcement).

So the computer screen only shows details for that taxi, not for other taxis?

Thank you for clearing that up. It takes one scenario off the table.


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Thanks JoWA for clarifying. Do you now if they confirmed the taxi was booked in the name of Spiers on the night SS disappeared?

 

[Spooks-R-Us]

Does everyone think the accused only attacks females?

 

[CP345]

Does everyone think the accused only attacks females?

I'm not sure I'd totally rule out the possibility that he attacked males but I'm leaning towards females only.

More likely to attack a male who'd learned something of his secrets and became a threat in my opinion.

 

[tapdancingbear]

After reading some of the comments i would like to say that until someone is Convicted of All CSK murders nothing can be ruled out ... not charged ... Convicted

 

[Spooks-R-Us]

Is there a list of unsolved violent crimes with male victims from 1987 to 2016???