Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #14

[Innerchild]

snipped by me

I'm not sure of the date of this news report, but it has always struck me while finding a dead body must be incredibly upsetting, this man described as çut up' at the grisly find"" seemed totally overwhelmed.

It's also possible IMO, that the ford falcon taxi that was spotted was taking the killer to scout for locations. There have been many comments by police and others that the locations that the bodies were found were planned.

 

[Spooks-R-Us]

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp...s/news-story/557f281e68cdf76d572843291ea9cef7



CGE's "family were from Kewdale but were familiar with the affluent western suburbs. They operated a popular French restaurant La Petite Cabine at 616 Stirling Highway in Mosman Park between 1985 and June 1994."

These dates need to be added to timeline too please.
Can anybody update the file?


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[Innerchild]

The article was pulled down months before the accused was charged, so it was not sub judicial. I can only assume that WAPOL was afraid of tipping off whoever they would eventually charge at the time because they thought the place was indeed a crime scene

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I think page 5 on 14th January is not in the online Post. This has the photo and story of the gentleman finding the book of what seem to be electrical wiring (armature diagrams?) in the wall cavity and he has the story of finding signs of a struggle and a gold chain in the building. it was empty for many years. I'm sure this story was repeated. Is the earlier article offline as well? Handwriting could possibly be recognised IMO.

I find the book of diagrams very interesting and possibly kept there and code for body burial. This is defiantly JMOO and spitballing, but I'm exploring different patterns with known burial sites.

 

[JudgeJudi]

You might like to make a copy of this for future reference.

Western Australia Sentencing Act 1995 (reprinted 8 January 2016)

90. Life imprisonment for murder, imposing

(1) A court that sentences an offender to life imprisonment for murder must either —

(a) set a minimum period of —

(i) at least 15 years, if the offence is committed by an adult offender (within the meaning
given in The Criminal Code section 1(1)) in the course of conduct that constitutes an aggravated home burglary (within the meaning given in that section); or

(ii) at least 10 years, in any other case,

that the offender must serve before being eligible for release on parole; or

(b) order that the offender must never be released.

(2) Any minimum period so set begins to run when the sentence of life imprisonment
begins.

(3) A court must make an order under subsection (1)(b) if it is necessary to do so in
order to meet the community’s interest in punishment and deterrence.

(4) In determining whether an offence is one for which an order under subsection (1)(b)
is necessary, the only matters relating to the offence that are to be taken into account
are —

(a) the circumstances of the commission of the offence; and
(b) any aggravating factors.

96. Release from life imprisonment

(1) A prisoner serving a sentence of life imprisonment for an offence other than
murder is not to be released before he or she has served 7 years of the sentence.

(2) A prisoner serving a sentence of life imprisonment for murder in respect of which
a minimum period has been set under section 90(1)(a) is not to be released before
he or she has served the minimum period.

(3) A prisoner serving a sentence of life imprisonment for murder in respect of which
an order has been made under section 90(1)(b) is not to be released.

(4) Any order for the release of a prisoner referred to in this section must be made in
accordance with Part 3 of the Sentence Administration Act 2003.

https://www.slp.wa.gov.au/legislation/statutes.nsf/main_mrtitle_888_homepage.html

 

[Spinnaker]

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp...s/news-story/557f281e68cdf76d572843291ea9cef7



CGE's "family were from Kewdale but were familiar with the affluent western suburbs. They operated a popular French restaurant La Petite Cabine at 616 Stirling Highway in Mosman Park between 1985 and June 1994."

These dates need to be added to timeline too please.
Can anybody update the file?


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Will do Spooks.

 

[petedavo.au]

Someone on an early forum found this. It's longer than what was released to MSM

http://www.ruclip.com/video/hbbg-FVij4c/claremont-killings-cctv-footage-released.html

One thing I noted about this video is that it shows JR after she supposedly disappeared as asserted in the Hunt for a killer documentary. It's not much longer, but it long enough to see what looks like a woman walking past her , I assume after getting out of a car, and what looks like Jane leaving, I suppose to get into the same car, next car, or cross the road. Look closely the end and see if you're it too

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[Spinnaker]

Timeline has been further updated with updates from Grok & Spooks:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1dw95lekr...E - BRE TIMELINE 1968 to 2017 - GROK.doc?dl=0

 

[Sloofski]

If the driver of the supposed taxi drove into Pipidinny Rd from Marmion Ave, he may have reached Wanneroo Rd without realizing. Possibly he may have been in an anxious state of mind. Perhaps Pipidinny Rds T-Junction didn't have a clear sign (back then).

Also, perhaps a fake taxi was utilized as a ruse. People often sit in the back of a taxi, whereas it would look odd if someone was seated in the back seat of an ordinary vehicle. Perhaps the police don't pull taxis over as often as normal vehicles. Also, truck drivers are higher up and have better visuals of what's inside cars. A vehicle with a taxi sign might have been a better option.

If a light coloured station wagon was used to pick up CG, the perpetrator might realize that the police would be on the look out for a station wagon, but not on the look out for a taxi.

During CGs abduction there might have been a switch from a station wagon to a Ford (with a taxi sign).

These are just my thoughts and opinions.

Pretty sure Marmion ave only went as far north as burns beach till about 2007/08. We used to have to access 4wd tracks around pippidiny from Waneroo rd back in the 90's

 

[Spooks-R-Us]

Timeline has been further updated with updates from Grok & Spooks:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1dw95lekr...E - BRE TIMELINE 1968 to 2017 - GROK.doc?dl=0

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[Spooks-R-Us]

One thing I noted about this video is that it shows JR after she supposedly disappeared as asserted in the Hunt for a killer documentary. It's not much longer, but it long enough to see what looks like a woman walking past her , I assume after getting out of a car, and what looks like Jane leaving, I suppose to get into the same car, next car, or cross the road. Look closely the end and see if you're it too

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I tried to see where she went, but IMO it's still unclear.

IMO I think JR crossed road towards post office and walked through the walkway.


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[Spinnaker]

One thing I noted about this video is that it shows JR after she supposedly disappeared as asserted in the Hunt for a killer documentary. It's not much longer, but it long enough to see what looks like a woman walking past her , I assume after getting out of a car, and what looks like Jane leaving, I suppose to get into the same car, next car, or cross the road. Look closely the end and see if you're it too

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Good find PD!
Photos of a woman from the video is this who you mean PD? In one image it looks she is walking to JR.

 

[Spinnaker]

Woman and JR circled.

 

[Spooks-R-Us]

Spinnaker and PeteDavo - it's looks like the segments in this video are in a different "order"! Or am I just dreaming up a spook!


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[Spooks-R-Us]

Woman and JR circled.

Could be just me - but this pic isn't loading at my end.


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[Spinnaker]

Spinnaker and PeteDavo - it's looks like the segments in this video are in a different "order"! Or am I just dreaming up a spook!


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its just the way they loaded girl circled is the first. I will try to reload in order.

Also attached - looks like she came out with two others and tried to hail a taxi. Did JR get the taxi?

 

[Canning Vale]

I tried to see where she went, but IMO it's still unclear.

IMO I think JR crossed road towards post office and walked through the walkway.


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I can see the young lady at the end of the video.

 

[Canning Vale]

Good find PD!
Photos of a woman from the video is this who you mean PD? In one image it looks she is walking to JR.

The young lady (mystery woman) with shoulder length hair, wearing the jumper and long skirt, walks toward JR and in the last photo looks as though is searching though her own bag. The MW doesn't look very tall.

 

[Spinnaker]

its just the way they loaded girl circled is the first. I will try to reload in order.

Also attached - looks like she came out with two others and tried to hail a taxi. Did JR get the taxi?

Link to below post by Shadowboxer on WS:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ller-1996-1997-Perth-Western-Australia/page22

"I have certain information about this case. When they released the footage of Jane Rimmer at the taxi rank, they showed certain things that they didn't want the public to see. I picked up on this and a day later it was removed and Police had said they released the wrong footage. This is fact. The footage showed a few people step forward to enter what is 99% certain to have been a taxi and were waved back and Jane called forward as you clearly see her walk that way as the others step back.. I know why they are looking at the screen printing business and even worked out myself that the girls all disappeared on the same moon phase if I remember correctly. In doing so found myself being profiled and under constant surveillance until they worked out it wasn't me I gather. I know lots of the details because my sister knew a police officer in perth at the time. These details must have been correct as the police were very interested in me. I think I must have mentioned stuff nobody knows because I was then told I had offered very insightful stuff and I won't even begin to go into what they are doing, what measures they are taking, because it may warn the real killer. It is a very scary case with lots of weird details. Be interested to speak with someone who knows a little about it and see what happens.

They are using very new and unorthodox means to profile all related to this case, including all that have added their views on every single forum. There would be at least one detective from macro on this thread alone. That is for certain. I was asked to join something online and as soon as I did, knew I was being profiled. All these numbers and flag colours are nothing to do with the case in my opinion. I believe the girls all entered a taxi which may have seen them from a vantage point ring for one. One thing I am certain of after viewing the original footage which was removed never to be seen again was that Jane Rimmer jumped in to a taxi. I believe the interest in the screen printing business directly relates to this. Very scary case which I became interested in years ago when my sister told me details of what actually happened to the girls. I found myself shocked, scared and wishing I had never offered any views after being warned about other killers who had been on certain threads. Yes I called them on being profiled, Yes I was right. I have spoken to Macro and they obviously have been right through me. The case still interests me though and finding this thread has given me a couple of new lines of thought I had never known about."

 

[Spinnaker]

Attached article 'Dark fears in glamour spot' listing below attacks as well as JR & SS:

1992 - Swanbourne Railway
Two other women were raped near Swanbourne Railway Station in 1992 after walking home from Claremont late at night.

January 1 1994 - Claremont Stop sign/Subway
In the early hours of New Year's Day a woman driving home from Club Bay view fought off a man who dragged her from her car and tried to rape her at a stop sign at the Claremont subway.

October 31 1994 - Princess Rd 31 year old Claremont woman broke her ankle when she leapt from a speeding taxi in Princess Road after the driver and a man crouched in the back tried to abduct her.

February 12, 1995 - KK attack
A teenage abducted from Rowe Park in Gugeri Street, she was tied up with an electrical flex, raped and left for dead at Karrakatta Cemetery.

March 1996 - 21 year old woman bashed and indecently assaulted in Church lane - her skirt was ripped off during struggle

Additional attacks not mentioned in article

1994 - Central Claremont carpark
Failed abduction of an 18-year-old girl in a Claremont carpark

1990 - Coles Loading Dock
A woman was attacked and raped in the Coles loading dock in Claremont.

1995 - Claremont Golf Course
A young woman got into a taxi in Claremont and the driver drove her to Claremont golf course where he forcibly stripped of her clothes, she escaped and knocked on the door of a nearby house for help.

Further info/ discussion on any of the above would be helpful.

 

[DRT]

Link to below post by Shadowboxer on WS:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ller-1996-1997-Perth-Western-Australia/page22

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Am I correct in saying that in the 28 seconds after video the other people hailing a cab are also missing. This could support the cab look theory.

Links shown in picture.