Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #14

[Spooks-R-Us]

Attached article 'Dark fears in glamour spot' listing below attacks as well as JR & SS:

1992 - Swanbourne Railway
Two other women were raped near Swanbourne Railway Station in 1992 after walking home from Claremont late at night.

January 1 1994 - Claremont Stop sign/Subway
In the early hours of New Year's Day a woman driving home from Club Bay view fought off a man who dragged her from her car and tried to rape her at a stop sign at the Claremont subway.

October 31 1994 - Princess Rd 31 year old Claremont woman broke her ankle when she leapt from a speeding taxi in Princess Road after the driver and a man crouched in the back tried to abduct her.

February 12, 1995 - KK attack
A teenage abducted from Rowe Park in Gugeri Street, she was tied up with an electrical flex, raped and left for dead at Karrakatta Cemetery.

March 1996 - 21 year old woman bashed and indecently assaulted in Church lane - her skirt was ripped off during struggle

Additional attacks not mentioned in article

1994 - Central Claremont carpark
Failed abduction of an 18-year-old girl in a Claremont carpark

1990 - Coles Loading Dock
A woman was attacked and raped in the Coles loading dock in Claremont.

1995 - Claremont Golf Course
A young woman got into a taxi in Claremont and the driver drove her to Claremont golf course where he forcibly stripped of her clothes, she escaped and knocked on the door of a nearby house for help.

Further info/ discussion on any of the above would be helpful.

Nothing new to add sorry


Do you know exact date of Cottesloe to Laneway Drive-in Attack?


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[Spooks-R-Us]

I'm interested in seeing photos of La Petite Cabine (LPC).
Has anyone ever seen any pictures of the restaurant?
Actually any info at all would be great.

TIA


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[petedavo.au]

Good find PD!
Photos of a woman from the video is this who you mean PD? In one image it looks she is walking to JR.

You're correct. Didn't notice the lady walking out before, but at end she walks back from road passed JR, as though she realised it wasn't her taxi and then JR's right side is last seen at very end, in what looks like stopped over to maybe get into a car. I say stopped over because the bag that's previously seen at bum level is not seen now possibly because it's fallen to her left side or is lower than her bum and JR looks a lot shorter. Or maybe I'm seeing things. What do you reckon?
Here's a stil.

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[Canning Vale]

Attached article 'Dark fears in glamour spot' listing below attacks as well as JR & SS:

1992 - Swanbourne Railway
Two other women were raped near Swanbourne Railway Station in 1992 after walking home from Claremont late at night.

January 1 1994 - Claremont Stop sign/Subway
In the early hours of New Year's Day a woman driving home from Club Bay view fought off a man who dragged her from her car and tried to rape her at a stop sign at the Claremont subway.

October 31 1994 - Princess Rd 31 year old Claremont woman broke her ankle when she leapt from a speeding taxi in Princess Road after the driver and a man crouched in the back tried to abduct her.

February 12, 1995 - KK attack
A teenage abducted from Rowe Park in Gugeri Street, she was tied up with an electrical flex, raped and left for dead at Karrakatta Cemetery.

March 1996 - 21 year old woman bashed and indecently assaulted in Church lane - her skirt was ripped off during struggle

Additional attacks not mentioned in article

1994 - Central Claremont carpark
Failed abduction of an 18-year-old girl in a Claremont carpark

1990 - Coles Loading Dock
A woman was attacked and raped in the Coles loading dock in Claremont.

1995 - Claremont Golf Course
A young woman got into a taxi in Claremont and the driver drove her to Claremont golf course where he forcibly stripped of her clothes, she escaped and knocked on the door of a nearby house for help.

Further info/ discussion on any of the above would be helpful.

Spinnaker,
Thank you, you've spent quite a bit of time of the post. Was this the one with a Commodore involved?

1994 - Central Claremont carpark - Failed abduction of an 18-year-old girl in a Claremont carpark

 

[petedavo.au]

I was looking for any pictures of the Telstra facility on top of Mt Dale and found this. Anyway it shows the Telstra tower and Building at the beginning, but the interesting thing is it does show why it'd would be very difficult to find a dump site in the Darling Ranges https://youtu.be/H-g2ydU_mCY

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[Spooks-R-Us]

You're correct. Didn't notice the lady walking out before, but at end she walks back from road passed JR, as though she realised it wasn't her taxi and then JR's right side is last seen at very end, in what looks like stopped over to maybe get into a car. I say stopped over because the bag that's previously seen at bum level is not seen now possibly because it's fallen to her left side or is lower than her bum and JR looks a lot shorter. Or maybe I'm seeing things. What do you reckon?
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Agree - could be JR bending over


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[Spooks-R-Us]

I was looking for any pictures of the Telstra facility on top of Mt Dale and found this. Anyway it shows the Telstra tower and Building at the beginning, but the interesting thing is it does show why it'd would be very difficult to find a dump site in the Darling Ranges https://youtu.be/H-g2ydU_mCY

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I'm guessing the video was filmed using a drone. Great find PeteDavo.

Wouldn't it be useful if drones could incorporate heat seeking technology to help find people lost in the bush. Or some other digital technology that could locate victims' bodies in shallow graves or hidden in the bush.

There is so many possibilities.


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[petedavo.au]

I'm interested in seeing photos of La Petite Cabine (LPC).
Has anyone ever seen any pictures of the restaurant?
Actually any info at all would be great.

TIA


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Before the internet took off unfortunately, so they're elusive.
Here's what I found on Google maps. Location, front view, rear view, view a cross the road from the location towards Mosman Park train station.

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[Canning Vale]

Perhaps the CSK (whoever he may be) had a weekend, evening job as a taxi driver (unregistered). Possibly a Ford that wasn't registered. Perhaps, occasionally helping a taxi driver out, by taking their shift. Could it be possible that CG accepted a ride, because, beforehand she and friends had been picked up by the accused, whilst he drove them in a taxi.

I'm aware all the registered taxi drivers were interviewed etc, but the unregistered ones could have slipped through those interviews. Often taxi-drivers share a taxi - 3 shifts per 24 hours (3 x 8hrs = 24hrs)

These are only my thoughts and opinions.

 

[petedavo.au]

You're correct. Didn't notice the lady walking out before, but at end she walks back from road passed JR, as though she realised it wasn't her taxi and then JR's right side is last seen at very end, in what looks like stopped over to maybe get into a car. I say stopped over because the bag that's previously seen at bum level is not seen now possibly because it's fallen to her left side or is lower than her bum and JR looks a lot shorter. Or maybe I'm seeing things. What do you reckon?
Here's a stil.

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"Stooped over" not "stopped over"
I blame the Stupid phone predictive text feature. [emoji6]

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[Spooks-R-Us]

Do we have any links between CGE and the accused BRE prior to the beginning of their relationship? Besides the one clue that they allegedly became WCE members?
CGE was from Kewdale. Do we know how they met?


http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...s/news-story/557f281e68cdf76d572843291ea9cef7


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[Canning Vale]

"Stooped over" not "stopped over"
I blame the Stupid phone predictive text feature. [emoji6]

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Once a person steps off the pavement onto the road they look shorter.

 

[Canning Vale]

Do we have any links between CGE and the accused BRE prior to the beginning of their relationship? Besides the one clue that they allegedly became WCE members?
CGE was from Kewdale. Do we know how they met?

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...s/news-story/557f281e68cdf76d572843291ea9cef7


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Not sure how or where they met but CGE's daughter VG must have been very young.

 

[Bunnie]

Perhaps the CSK (whoever he may be) had a weekend, evening job as a taxi driver (unregistered). Possibly a Ford that wasn't registered. Perhaps, occasionally helping a taxi driver out, by taking their shift. Could it be possible that CG accepted a ride, because, beforehand she and friends had been picked up by the accused, whilst he drove them in a taxi.

I'm aware all the registered taxi drivers were interviewed etc, but the unregistered ones could have slipped through those interviews. Often taxi-drivers share a taxi - 3 shifts per 24 hours (3 x 8hrs = 24hrs)

These are only my thoughts and opinions.

A rogue driver helping out a mate sounds good in theory until you look closely at tge industry. Drivers still needed to have training in the computer dispatch system in the cabs. That was only offered as a course in order to achieve a taxi licence. Drivers didnt just pick up hailed fares. The only way drivers made money was to be connected to the computer system, key in the right codes depending on the area they are in, have Job dispatched to them, accept and then get the details via the system. That way , the drunken fare from Claremont to mosman Park turned into mosman Park to the city or airport etc. Money was only made through consecutive and connecting jobs. Drivers are not paid a salary or a retainer by the owners, they lease the use of the vehicle. Any money they make is through their own metered fares.

 

[Spinnaker]

Thanks Spinnaker. I'm trying to ascertain where and when BRE met CGE. I can possibly place CGE and CG in the same place, and I was then wondering how BRE first met CGE. And I think the restaurant could possibly be a factor.



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Timeline mentions that the G family operated the restaurant between 1985 & 1994.

CG & VG & BRE joined WCE in 1998.

EDIT: There is a mention that the G family moved to Glyde Street in Mosman Park - would be good to get confirmation and dates on this?

 

[Spooks-R-Us]

Did taxi drivers do jobs on the side for friends and family? And were any side jobs metered or freebies?


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[Spinnaker]

Timeline mentions that the G family operated the restaurant between 1985 & 1994.

CG & VG & BRE joined WCE in 1998.

EDIT: There is a mention that the G family moved to Glyde Street in Mosman Park - would be good to get confirmation and dates on this?

On 23 May 1994 PL was beaten to death in her jewellery shop in Glyde Street, Mosman Park.

http://amallard.blogspot.com.au/2005/12/mp-gives-speech-in-western-australian.html

 

[Spooks-R-Us]

Timeline mentions that the G family operated the restaurant between 1985 & 1994.

CG & VG & BRE joined WCE in 1998.

EDIT: There is a mention that the G family moved to Glyde Street in Mosman Park - would be good to get confirmation and dates on this?

As I've mentioned previously, I think CG and/or her family possibly ate at the French restaurant (LPC). And if BRE was pursuing CGE trying to date her, then BRE may have eaten at LPC too or at least hung around there. With a chance BRE and CG crossed paths or even met.

So when one night in March, I'm proposing BRE saw CG possibly hitchhiking on Stirling H'way, and offered her a lift. And CG already having possibly met BRE before at LPC was probably at first relieved to have him allegedly pull up and offer her a lift home.

Witnesses heard no screams or scuffle when CG leant over to talk to person in white car. So I think CG knew the driver.


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[Canning Vale]

Link to below post by Shadowboxer on WS:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ller-1996-1997-Perth-Western-Australia/page22

"I have certain information about this case. When they released the footage of Jane Rimmer at the taxi rank, they showed certain things that they didn't want the public to see. I picked up on this and a day later it was removed and Police had said they released the wrong footage. This is fact. The footage showed a few people step forward to enter what is 99% certain to have been a taxi and were waved back and Jane called forward as you clearly see her walk that way as the others step back.. I know why they are looking at the screen printing business and even worked out myself that the girls all disappeared on the same moon phase if I remember correctly. In doing so found myself being profiled and under constant surveillance until they worked out it wasn't me I gather. I know lots of the details because my sister knew a police officer in perth at the time. These details must have been correct as the police were very interested in me. I think I must have mentioned stuff nobody knows because I was then told I had offered very insightful stuff and I won't even begin to go into what they are doing, what measures they are taking, because it may warn the real killer. It is a very scary case with lots of weird details. Be interested to speak with someone who knows a little about it and see what happens.

They are using very new and unorthodox means to profile all related to this case, including all that have added their views on every single forum. There would be at least one detective from macro on this thread alone. That is for certain. I was asked to join something online and as soon as I did, knew I was being profiled. All these numbers and flag colours are nothing to do with the case in my opinion. I believe the girls all entered a taxi which may have seen them from a vantage point ring for one. One thing I am certain of after viewing the original footage which was removed never to be seen again was that Jane Rimmer jumped in to a taxi. I believe the interest in the screen printing business directly relates to this. Very scary case which I became interested in years ago when my sister told me details of what actually happened to the girls. I found myself shocked, scared and wishing I had never offered any views after being warned about other killers who had been on certain threads. Yes I called them on being profiled, Yes I was right. I have spoken to Macro and they obviously have been right through me. The case still interests me though and finding this thread has given me a couple of new lines of thought I had never known about."

Regarding Shadowboxer's comment about the original footage "JR jumped into a taxi". The idea of airing the footage was to identify MM. The taxi drivers came under a lot of scrutiny, I don't suppose WAPOL wanted the public to think there might be a bogus taxi driver out and about. There would have been uproar from the public - how could WAPOL manage the situation - think they were short-staffed during the 1990s. These are only my thoughts and opinions.

 

[Canning Vale]

A rogue driver helping out a mate sounds good in theory until you look closely at tge industry. Drivers still needed to have training in the computer dispatch system in the cabs. That was only offered as a course in order to achieve a taxi licence. Drivers didnt just pick up hailed fares. The only way drivers made money was to be connected to the computer system, key in the right codes depending on the area they are in, have Job dispatched to them, accept and then get the details via the system. That way , the drunken fare from Claremont to mosman Park turned into mosman Park to the city or airport etc. Money was only made through consecutive and connecting jobs. Drivers are not paid a salary or a retainer by the owners, they lease the use of the vehicle. Any money they make is through their own metered fares.

Bunny,

Thank you. Would it really be impossible for the taxi licence owner to sub-let his/her taxi for cash purposes. Thinking the driver who works nightshift possibly earns enough money to compensate the licence owner and pockets some cash for himself.
When the taxi driver's came under scrutiny I don't suppose they mentioned the sub-let drivers, because of the cash earned (i.e. taxation avoidance).

These are only my thoughts and opinions.