GUILTY Australia - Daniel Morcombe, 13, Woombye, QLD, 7 Dec 2003 - #1

[Crimson clover]

http://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/daniel-morcombe-shoe-expert-says-pair-found-match/2172061/
Daniel Morcombe trial hears of packs of wild dogs roaming

Editor's note: Parts of the evidence from this morning has been edited out due to its graphic nature

Hard reading.
The poor Morcombe's.

 

[Fuskier]

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 1h
That's day five complete in the Daniel Morcombe trial. Back in court tomorrow at 10am.

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 1h
Witness Fiona Theuerkauf was on a bus when she saw a boy with a stick try to wave them down. A man was standing behind him. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 1h
Ms North was shown photo boards by police but was not able to recognise the man from among the photos. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 1h
The court is being shown a sketch of the man Ms North saw, drawn from her recollections. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 2h
Ms North said she saw a man standing behind the boy with his leg up against the wall. The boy was playing with a stick. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 2h
Witness Abby North is telling the court how she saw a little boy in a red shirt under the overpass as she went by on a bus. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 3h
Mr said it was a 90s or thereabouts Landcruiser. It had rigid angles. Was facing the Maroochydore roundabout. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 4h
Jessiah said he saw a white 4WD 50m-150m towards Nambour after the overpass. No other cars. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 4h
"There was a boy in a red shirt under the overpass. He was on his haunches on the embankment" - Jessiah . #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 4h
Sunshine Coast resident Jessiah is giving evidence about seeing a boy in red shirt sitting under Kiel Mountain Rd overpass. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 4h
Sen Sgt Bell also examined "tape lifts" from Mitsubishi Pajero. She found a number of hairs but no DNA profile could be extracted. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 4h
Sen Sgt Bell examined carpet buried at the macadamia farm. Tested it for hair and fibres. She did not find anything relevant. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 4h
Next is Acting Senior Sergeant Melissa Bell from the police scientific section. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 4h
Ms Johnson gave advice to police on the environmental impacts of "dewatering" a dam. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 4h
Now we have Jessica Johnson, environmental officer, who carried out water quality testing at the crime scene. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 4h
Next is Chantel Hart, Main Beach Surf co. She identified a Globe shoebox shown to her by police as being from her store. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 4h
Mr Coey identified the remnants as Bonds brand. Probably blue in colour. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 4h
We're hearing from Adam Coey, from Pacific Bands, who was shown photos of the remains of "Bonds" underpants found at the scene. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 4h
Mr Erpf said the flow of floodwaters in January 2011 at Glass House Mountains site was extremely slow - a rate of .3m per second. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 4h
Giving evidence now is hydrologist Michael Erpf. He is a "flood specialist" who gave advice to police at the crime scene. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 5h
Mr Goullet said he has worked extensively through the Glass House Mountains and has seen "dingos walking the streets". #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 5h
Next is Mark Goullet, who runs a business called Ferals Out. He helped advise police on wild animal populations. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 5h
Dr Allen gave police advice on wild dogs and their activities to help them search for Daniel's remains. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 5h
Dr Allen said there are "plenty" of dingos/wild dogs in the Glass House Mountains area. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 5h
Now on the stand is Biosecurity QLD zoologist Dr Lee Allen. He specialises in wild dogs. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 5h
We're hearing from Landsborough resident Brian Russ, who took a demountable building from the macadamia farm and refurbished it in 05/06.

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 6h
The botanist told police the density of vegetation at crime scene would have been similar in 2011 as in 2003 when Daniel vanished. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 6h
Mr Dowling said he could see evidence of flooding since Daniel's disappearance in 2003 from sand deposits across the crime scene. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 6h
Next we have expert witness Ralph Dowling, a field botanist who assisted police at the crime scene. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 6h
Dr Bennett examined Daniel's school shoes and skate shoes. Also looked at shoes recovered from scene. Same person wore all three. #morcombe

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 6h
Dr Bennett compared the shoes found at the crime scene with shoes belonging to Daniel Morcombe to see if the wear pattern was the same.

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 6h
The second week of the Daniel Morcombe trial is underway with expert testimony from a podiatrist, Dr Paul Bennett.

 

[marlywings]

From early last year, a very interesting interview on ABC radio with Dr Paul Bennett, a forensic podiatrist.

http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2013/01/31/3680360.htm

 

[marlywings]

This case, Daniel's...is the first I follow here at WS.
Discussion and opinion here is minimal. Idk why, exactly.
I have revisited the thread (esp. the coronial inquest) to refresh my thinking of things...and better position myself as if sitting as a juror...absorbing testimony and evidence.
I have lots of questions. :floorlaugh:
Just a few here...with failed Google attempts for answers...
Wth? Why is there NO Sex Offender Registry in Australia?
Wth? Why is it Cowan's sketched trial images of his wicked eyes are obscured?
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...murder-trial-the-exhibits-20140214-32q5f.html
Why are Daniel's school shoes of importance in the exhibits of evidence?

Our unofficial sex offenders registry....

MAKO was Founded in 1997 and is an Australian Non profit Organisation. Our mission is to help PREVENT and ASSIST victims of child sexual abuse (any form of child abuse) and other sex crime in Australia

http://www.mako.org.au/aboutus.html

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Re the sketches or blurred photos. Once a person is arrested, because of our judicial system, it's classed as contempt of court to publish photos of the accused & is seen as interfering with the course of justice to show their true identity.

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Re minimal discussion. Majority of Aussies all know of Daniel Morcombe & we all have a special place in our hearts for him. Daniel's disappearance affected a lot of people, from Commisioner of Police, police, journalists, tv presenters & members of general public....many of them hold a strong bond of friendship with the Morcombes.

There was a lot of rejoicing when an arrest was made & Daniel's remains were finally found after eight years but at the same time, a lot of incredible sadness also. Many folks don't want to know all the details of what happened to him as it's all too horrific for some to think about. However everyone is absolutely united in waiting & wanting to see justice served.

 

[Fuskier]

7News Brisbane ‏@7NewsBrisbane 48m
More evidence has been given in murder trial of accused Daniel #Morcombe killer. @CarlyWaters7 reports in #7NewsBris http://yhoo.it/1j3wWAs video summary of Day 5.

http://t.co/vRExMrXZ1R

 

[gregjrichards]

7News Brisbane ‏@7NewsBrisbane 48m
More evidence has been given in murder trial of accused Daniel #Morcombe killer. @CarlyWaters7 reports in #7NewsBris http://yhoo.it/1j3wWAs video summary of Day 5.

http://t.co/vRExMrXZ1R

Fuskier I just wanted to personally thank you for your excellent updates about the case. I pray that justice will be done here I am confident it will and Daniel's family get closure.

 

[Fuskier]

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 1h
Day 6 Brett Cowan's murder trial resumes in the Supreme Court in Brisbane. #morcombe @abcnews

 

[Fuskier]

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 9m
Daniel Morcombe's neighbour Blake Rogers now in witness box. Said he saw Daniel twice on 7th Dec 2003. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 32m
Mr Theuerkauf says the man was "scruffy" with a goatee or beard, shortish hair. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 33m
Terry Theuerkauf says he saw a boy waving a stick and a man leaning against wall behind him. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 40m
Next witness: bus passenger Terry Theuerkauf. Was 16 in 2003 when travelling to Maroochydore with sister and friends. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 41m
Sgt Tebbutt says she found broken glass, footprints and tyre marks at place where Daniel vanished. @abcnews #morcombe

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 51m
Jury shown photos of unofficial bus stop on Nambour Connection Road and Kiel Mtn Rd overpass. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 55m
Next witness: Sgt Sharon Tebbutt. She spoke to Morcombes day after Daniel vanished. Also went to Nambour Connection Rd. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 1h
Graham Smith was asked by police to determine soil profile of search site at Glass House Mtns in Aug 2011. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 1h
First witness today: soil technician Graham Smith. #morcombe @abcnews

 

[Fuskier]

Tessa Scott ‏@TessaScott9 16m
Hearing from Daniel #Morcombe's neighbour who saw him walking near the overpass the day he vanished @9NewsBrisbane

Tessa Scott ‏@TessaScott9 22m
Witness who took baby for a drive to put to sleep says he saw a boy in red shirt walking along looking up at trees @9NewsBrisbane #Morcombe

Tessa Scott ‏@TessaScott9 39m
Witness up now is Terry Theuerkauf who saw a boy trying to wave down a bus - and a man standing by @9NewsBrisbane #Morcombe

 

[ozazure]

I imagine like many people in this thread, I can see that underpass spot as clear as anything in my mind after all these years of Daniel's story in the media. Thank god there is going to be a resolution to the mystery of what happened to Daniel, if only there could be true justice, Daniel spared and returned to his family.

 

[Fuskier]

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 5m
Motorist Karen Brady also tells court she saw a blue car, a man and a boy under the Kiel Mtn Rd overpass. #morcombe @abcnews

Tessa Scott ‏@TessaScott9 14m
#Morcombe witness says saw blue sedan in the backseat was a tarp "I thought there were kids under there." Saw something red @9NewsBrisbane

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 10m
Mr Lipke says he saw a tarp in back seat of blue car with something jumping up and down. Thought it was kids. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 11m
Hairdresser Keith Lipke tells court he saw a blue car pull up beside his on Nambour Connection Rd on 7th Dec 2003. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 29m
Christopher Thomas from Rip Curl now giving evidence about shorts found in Coochin Ck in 2011. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 35m
Joan Anderson says a man was beside blue car. "To me the two people didn't fully go together." #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 40m
Witness Joan Anderson tells Cowan trial she saw a blue car near a boy on Nambour Connection Rd on day Daniel disappeared.#morcombe @abcnews

 

[Fuskier]

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...sengers-worried-about-boy-20140218-32xhy.html

Daniel Morcombe murder trial: Bus passengers worried about boy
February 18, 2014 - 11:23AM by Marissa Calligeros

Passengers on a bus travelling to a Sunshine Coast shopping centre 10 years ago were worried about a little boy left behind on the side of the road.
They would come to learn that the young boy wearing a red T-shirt was Daniel Morcombe, who was dead "almost certainly" an hour later... :anguish:

 

[Fuskier]

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...in-supreme-court/story-fnihsrf2-1226829805676

Witnesses who saw Daniel Morcombe before he disappeared have given evidence on day five of murder trial in Supreme Court
KATE KYRIACOU THE COURIER-MAIL FEBRUARY 18, 2014 12:00AM

"... Giving evidence in the Supreme Court on the sixth day of the Daniel Morcombe murder trial, the three witnesses – all in their teens when they saw a little boy waiting for a bus"... "Ms Theuerkauf told the court she had a reason to remember the man and the boy She saw the boy in the red shirt as the Sunbus rumbled along the Nambour Connection Rd. He stepped forward to wave them down but the bus did not stop"... :steamed:

 

[gregjrichards]

I can't believe someone thought there were kids under the blue tarp and didn't do something. Didn't they think that was highly unusual and disturbing. I would have screamed for the driver to stop the bus.

I know it's terrible Fuskier these people probably thought the boy they saw would be ok because an adult was there little did they know it was the adult that posed the danger. I think people should always act on their gut instinct if you think something is wrong. I have reprimanded a few parents for walking away chatting leaving toddlers and children unsupervised for someone to grab in an instant.

I have seen many toddlers and young children walking unattended or lost and I always ask them where there parents or relatives are and take them to security.
I can't stand parents who go to the supermarket and immediately let their kids go to the toy section alone will their parents get the groceries. It is not safe for parents to do that. I also hate seeing young boys in the gents toilets being allowed to go to public toilets alone as well it's not safe. My cousins children are always taken to the disabled toilet cubicle and we stand guard outside the door or go in with them.

Sorry for ranting about this it really bothers me when children are in danger and people do nothing.

Poor Daniel and it must be agony for his family having to hear how he could potentially have been saved.

 

[Fuskier]

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 4m
Another driver, Barry Kelsey, recalls seeing a boy and man near him under Kiel Mtn Rd overpass on day Daniel vanished. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 45m
Mr Norman says no more than 2 mins between first and second buses. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 48m
Mr Norman says by the time he drove bus under Kiel Mtn Rd overpass, there was noone there. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 52m
Sunbus driver Jeffrey Norman giving evidence about driving second bus along Nambour Connection Rd on day Daniel vanished. #morcombe @abcnews

Tessa Scott ‏@TessaScott9 52m
Jeffrey Norman bus driver says driver of first bus radioed said there was someone under bridge. No one there when he arrived @9NewsBrisbane

Tessa Scott ‏@TessaScott9 55m
Jeffrey Norman bus driver drove second bus, said it left "no more than 2 mins" after first bus that passed Daniel #Morcombe @9NewsBrisbane

 

[Fuskier]

http://www.news.com.au/national/bre...killer-continues/story-e6frfku9-1226830104087

Morcombe jury told of 'jumping' tarp
FEBRUARY 18, 2014 2:41PM
A WITNESS has told the trial of Daniel Morcombe's accused killer of seeing a glimpse of red from under a "jumping" tarpaulin in the back seat of a moving car...

""It was a tarp jumping up and down and as I recall my statement said I thought there was kids or someone under there moving, or it was the wind," he saidMr Lipke said he also saw a piece of red material under the tarpaulin"...

He said he later saw the same car being driven erratically and there were two men inside, including a man with a bushy beard and unkempt hair to his collar"...

 

[Fuskier]

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 1m
Driver Gary Mitchell tells court he saw a car, white van and possibly three people in vicinity of Kiel Mtn Rd overpass. #morcombe @abcnews

Tessa Scott ‏@TessaScott9 4m
#Morcombe trial has finished up for the day, we have heard from 66 all up now. @9NewsBrisbane

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 1m
Day 6 of Cowan murder trial over for the day. Got through 20 witnesses. Resumes tomorrow for Day 7. #morcombe @abcnews

 

[Crimson clover]

Our unofficial sex offenders registry....

MAKO was Founded in 1997 and is an Australian Non profit Organisation. Our mission is to help PREVENT and ASSIST victims of child sexual abuse (any form of child abuse) and other sex crime in Australia

http://www.mako.org.au/aboutus.html

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Re the sketches or blurred photos. Once a person is arrested, because of our judicial system, it's classed as contempt of court to publish photos of the accused & is seen as interfering with the course of justice to show their true identity.

--------------------------------------------

Re minimal discussion. Majority of Aussies all know of Daniel Morcombe & we all have a special place in our hearts for him. Daniel's disappearance affected a lot of people, from Commisioner of Police, police, journalists, tv presenters & members of general public....many of them hold a strong bond of friendship with the Morcombes.

There was a lot of rejoicing when an arrest was made & Daniel's remains were finally found after eight years but at the same time, a lot of incredible sadness also. Many folks don't want to know all the details of what happened to him as it's all too horrific for some to think about. However everyone is absolutely united in waiting & wanting to see justice served.

Thank you.
BBM ~ I understand. The trial progresses...and the details emerge. Neither do I wish to hash out the horrors of poor Daniel's demise. My sadness hardly equals those who have felt it longer...and neither do I wish to offend anyone with foolish words/thoughts here. Trials are emotional journeys...and I've opted (from the outside) to latch on to Daniel's.

My utmost concern is with the Morcombe's. The finale of a trial that ends with some sort of closure, after all these years...after all this unimaginable torment. How tragic a 'not guilty' verdict would fall.

My utmost desire for debate/discussion is with Cowan, Shadoo, Sha'fool', whatev. The obliterate conscience of an evil defendant that refuses to fess up...lingering in the justice system. Ugh.

IMO, in the early stages of this trial...the prosecution rocks! The investigation proves astounding...the evidence is all there...kuddos, prayers...hoping Sha'fool' is THE guy.

Mr. Edwards is keen counsel, IMO. He's doing his job...with a relatively strong defence. Jackway. Allowing room for question/doubt. Spit. I'd be happy to be told I'm wrong, wrong, WRONG.

Trusting the Crown's got it. They know!

:heartbeat: for the Morcombe family.

 

[Fuskier]

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 2h
Day 7 of Cowan murder trial begins in the Supreme Court in Brisbane. #morcombe @abcnews

Tegan George ‏@tegangeorge 1h
#Morcombe: 18 witnesses expected to give evidence today in #Cowan murder trial @tennewsqld

 

[Fuskier]

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 2m
Bus passenger Katherine Bird tells court she saw a man and a boy "flagging down the bus" under overpass. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 12m
Mr Edmonds tells court he didn't see any vehicle under overpass or nearby. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 13m
Mr Edmonds says he radioed to bus following behind about a boy waiting. Didn't get any response. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 14m
Mr Edmonds says boy "lifted his finger and I pointed to him that there was another bus coming." #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 14m
Mr Edmonds drove replacement bus under overpass. Saw a boy and man. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 23m
Mr Edmonds' bus broke down on Nambour Connection Rd on 7th Dec 2003. Contacted depot. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 25m
Bus driver Ross Edmonds takes the witness box in Cowan murder trial. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 55m
Another driver Kaye Gregory tells court she saw a young boy in red shirt and a blue car with boot open around midday. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 1h
But Mr McGruddy says it was wrong time of day for Daniel's disappearance. Happened much earlier. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 1h
Motorist Peter McGruddy tells court he saw 2 black sandshoes being pulled into a car before car sped off. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 1h
Ms Siver says the man was scruffy looking with shoulder length hair and goatee. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 1h
Car passenger Kerryn Siver tells court she saw a man walking towards overpass and a boy "kicking his feet in the dirt". #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 1h
Ms Lees said to her daughter "that's a weird place to sit." Saw no other people or cars. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 1h
Motorist Rebecca Lees tells court she saw boy sitting on embankment under overpass on day Daniel disappeared. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 1h
Next witness is nurse Maureen Bartle. Saw young boy with red shirt near overpass on 7th Dec 2003. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 1h
Mrs Mahoney said she saw a young boy, neatly dressed wearing a red shirt walking on side of road. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 1h
First witness today: motorist Lesley Mahoney. Saw a pale blue car near overpass on day Daniel disappeared. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 3m
But driver Ross Edmonds told court noone on the bus said anything to him as bus drove past boy. #morcombe @abcnews

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 4m
Ms Bird says she had an argument with bus driver for not picking up the boy. Driver "threatened to throw me off the bus". #morcombe @abcnews